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Posted 4/13/13 , edited 4/13/13

dookie128 wrote:

OMFG CR got Attack on Titan

CR you officially win at life

This definitely qualifies as the "didn't think they would get that" surprise of the season.

Frankly, if someone had claimed after Funimation's announcement yesterday that CR would also have AoT, I would have asked them if they were under the influence.

The timing of this brings up a very interesting question: Did CR indeed get the license for this after Funimation got theirs? The fact that Funimation both announced and streamed first appears to indicate that.

If that is indeed the case, it shatters the "If Funimation licenses it first, CR can't get it" rule, which completely changes the game going forward. (Unfortunately, it doesn't change contracts that already exist, as those no doubt have the exclusivity written in).




Update to initial message (Saturday, April 13, 2013 @ 10:57 AM CDT):

Added information on announced Crunchyroll simulcast of Attack on Titan.

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Maybe thats why it took a whole for Attack on Titan to be released in the US. They might have it elite only for MBS to make money. Atpeast people on Huly wont be bragging about how hulu has better anime than cr... i see comments on hulu that are idiotic (well to me atleast and especially about dubs). I may just get a funimation account just for this.

If i do have a funi account with elite, as anyone tried it with the roku. If you use the hd opption, is it faster to load than a free account. Because the hd is laggy for me and it takes 5 minutez to load and it stops to buffer frequently...


I don't have an Elite account, but I watch Funi on Roku and usually loading the HD is not very laggy, nor do I very often get pauses for buffering.

Which is to say, if you're running into that a lot it probably doesn't especially have to do with not having Elite subscription.

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For those who don't check the premium forums, this article has some nice details about Daisuke:

The things I was most interested to learn were the launch date is April 30th, they do not intend to have a premium membership system (sounded like?), and that streaming shows will not necessarily be exclusive to Daisuke (and generally reaffirming that they are not trying to compete with existing streaming/simulcast services).
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lolitsronald wrote:

Maybe thats why it took a whole for Attack on Titan to be released in the US. They might have it elite only for MBS to make money. Atpeast people on Huly wont be bragging about how hulu has better anime than cr... i see comments on hulu that are idiotic (well to me atleast and especially about dubs). I may just get a funimation account just for this.

If i do have a funi account with elite, as anyone tried it with the roku. If you use the hd opption, is it faster to load than a free account. Because the hd is laggy for me and it takes 5 minutez to load and it stops to buffer frequently...


I don't have an Elite account, but I watch Funi on Roku and usually loading the HD is not very laggy, nor do I very often get pauses for buffering.

Which is to say, if you're running into that a lot it probably doesn't especially have to do with not having Elite subscription.



I find Funimation sometimes has a pause right after it starts between the Funimation banner animation and the actual show, not sure if it is actually two videos one after the other or what.
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The Attack on Titan announcement for Crunchyroll was one of those "Surprise of the Year" ones for me. Certainly Kodansha got some UK and Ireland streaming to go with their North American streams. With Funi-licensed shows, usually the UK doesn't get a simulcast. This could be one of the factors that allowed a shared simulcast since Kodansha probably wanted the UK in on a simulcast but also wanted Funimation to do a home video license. It's certainly Win-Win-Win for all parties involved. Makes me excited for Crunchyroll's future because this brings us closer to a shared One Piece simulcast.
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hatguy12 wrote:

For those who don't check the premium forums, this article has some nice details about Daisuke:

The things I was most interested to learn were the launch date is April 30th, they do not intend to have a premium membership system (sounded like?), and that streaming shows will not necessarily be exclusive to Daisuke (and generally reaffirming that they are not trying to compete with existing streaming/simulcast services).

To duplicate what I stated in the premium users section, I have mixed feelings about them not having a paid subscription option. My number one concern is that means ads, whether you want them or not. It could also mean shows might well be limited to low resolution (i.e, 480p or even 360p).

I also wonder what the "some content" (regarding "Some premium content may be fee-based..."). I am hoping this is going to be movies and OVAs that are not typically available on other streaming services. I certainly wouldn't mind being able to plunk down a few bucks to be able to watch the third Madoka movie from the comfort of my own home.




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I find Funimation sometimes has a pause right after it starts between the Funimation banner animation and the actual show, not sure if it is actually two videos one after the other or what.

I believe it is a buffering issue, as it doesn't seem to happen at exactly the same place each time, and if I pause quickly enough for a few seconds and then resume, it doesn't happen at all.

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TheAncientOne wrote: The timing of this brings up a very interesting question: Did CR indeed get the license for this after Funimation got theirs? The fact that Funimation both announced and streamed first appears to indicate that.

That doesn't necessarily follow. Funimation seems to have got more restricted rights, after all: @AnimeNewsdotbiz on twitter says that "SVOD" implies premium streaming video on demand. So only Crunchyroll has free-streaming rights. So they were likely negotiating in parallel.
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The Attack on Titan announcement for Crunchyroll was one of those "Surprise of the Year" ones for me. Certainly Kodansha got some UK and Ireland streaming to go with their North American streams. With Funi-licensed shows, usually the UK doesn't get a simulcast. This could be one of the factors that allowed a shared simulcast since Kodansha probably wanted the UK in on a simulcast but also wanted Funimation to do a home video license. It's certainly Win-Win-Win for all parties involved. Makes me excited for Crunchyroll's future because this brings us closer to a shared One Piece simulcast.


I'd be surprised if anyone thought the UK market was significant. Certainly Funimation have never done a UK simulcast to my knowledge, though they do enable the UK market on some of the series they've put up on youtube (Bake & Test and Haganai spring to mind). Funimation's approach the the UK market has usually been about selling dubbed videos 9-12 months after their US release (via Manga UK)

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If I may ask what does it mean to negotiate in parallel??
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Posted 4/13/13 , edited 4/13/13

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If I may ask what does it mean to negotiate in parallel??


Negotiate with more than one party at the same time, rather than exclusively with one until that gets signed successfully or falls through and you move on to the next potential partner.
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WHOA WHOA WHOA there we got Attack On Titan?

I'm suddenly not sure why I still have a Funimation subscription... Gah I just bought a Roku almost solely for Funimation streams too.

Also, I'm pretty happy to see that we got Hentai Prince and the Stony Cat. That was one that I've been mildly interested in.
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hpulley wrote:


Tmaxxer wrote: If I may ask what does it mean to negotiate in parallel??


Negotiate with more than one party at the same time, rather than exclusively with one until that gets signed successfully or falls through and you move on to the next potential partner.

Exactly, since if you are offering non-exclusive rights, the two parties aren't actually bidding against each other, since they can both gain the rights.

It could be initiated by the licensor, but it could also be initiated by the prospective licensees agreeing to terms where they would be willing to share the stream. For Funimation, they would round out the simulcasts available to their subscribing members at lower cost, while for Crunchyroll, they would get the series on their site. And Kodansha gets exposure for their series in the UK, making it more likely that they'll get a UK home video distributor.

If it works out to the satisfaction of both sides, we might see more series on the same terms in the future. Hopefully with a broader region.


icecreamsnow wrote: I'd be surprised if anyone thought the UK market was significant. Certainly Funimation have never done a UK simulcast to my knowledge, though they do enable the UK market on some of the series they've put up on youtube (Bake & Test and Haganai spring to mind). Funimation's approach the the UK market has usually been about selling dubbed videos 9-12 months after their US release (via Manga UK)

Funimation certainly does not want to license for UK home video release ~ when they can, they only license for North American home video release and a UK release would have to go to the original rights owner for UK rights. Sometimes the licensor is only offering an English Language Countries license and Funimation has the UK and Australian rights, in which case it works out a deal for Manga UK and Madman to press R2/R4 DVD's and distribute them in the UK and Australia.

Turning it around, though, from Kodansha's perspective, if there is a home video release for the UK, its likely to generate more rights income than the international streaming rights altogether.
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Looking at Funimation that they only picked up 6 shows to simulcast and i feel that Sentai idk ...but i Feel they got more shows that funimation picked up, 11 shows that SentaiFilms have and is on crunchyroll

Funimation Got:

1.Karneval
2.Red Data Girl
3The Devil is a Part-Timer!
4.Date A Live
5 A Certain Scientific Railgun
6 Attack on Titan

Now for Sentai Filmworks, well they havent really officaly announced it yet but here the ones i think they already grabbed it and soon willl announced it

Sentai Films licensed

1. Majestic Prince
2 The Severing Crime Edge
3 Photo Kano
4 Devil Survivor 2 The Animation
5 Flowers of Evil
6 Samurai Bride
7 My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
8 Henneko – The Hentai Prince and the Stony Cat
9 Yuyushiki
10 Uta no Prince Sama 2 (Uta no Prince-sama: Maji Love 2000%) , Season 1 too...
11 Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet



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Kaze has two Spring Simulcasts up, with dates: Photo Kano and My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU: KZPLAY Simulcasts, 18 April 2013.

So we'll know by this time next week whether Anime-on-Demand is going to be kept up on the KZPLAY life support machine, "beep beep ... beep beep ... beep beep ..."

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AMC44 wrote:

Looking at Funimation that they only picked up 6 shows to simulcast and i feel that Sentai idk ...but i Feel they got more shows that funimation picked up, 11 shows that SentaiFilms have and is on crunchyroll

Funimation Got:

1.Karneval
2.Red Data Girl
3The Devil is a Part-Timer!
4.Date A Live
5 A Certain Scientific Railgun
6 Attack on Titan

Now for Sentai Filmworks, well they havent really officaly announced it yet but here the ones i think they already grabbed it and soon willl announced it

Sentai Films licensed

1. Majestic Prince
2 The Severing Crime Edge
3 Photo Kano
4 Devil Survivor 2 The Animation
5 Flowers of Evil
6 Samurai Bride
7 My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
8 Henneko – The Hentai Prince and the Stony Cat
9 Yuyushiki
10 Uta no Prince Sama 2 (Uta no Prince-sama: Maji Love 2000%) , Season 1 too...
11 Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet






I dont really think Sentai license Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet.... but other than that it seems pretty accurate...

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