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On another website I browse which discusses anime but where posting illegal links goes unpunished the people there laugh when I mention I have a CR account. In their mind, if you want to support anime you should steal it then buy figures and music if you like it.

That's just crap. I'm not here to support the anime industry directly, I'm here to support the localization of anime. The translators and coders and whatnot who bring anime to us online. Don't support them and the whole localization indurstry collapses. Just look at fansubs of Saint October, Fushigiboshi no Futago Hime, or Pretty Rhythm Aurora Dream to see why we cannot depend on fansubbers alone. We need Crunchyroll.

So it bothers me not just the attitudes of the people who steal it but when I find sites blatently disregarding copyright.

Anyway, I just did a google search for Boku no Imouto wa Osaka Okan because I was curious about the voice actors in it and the first page was a link to Wikipedia, and an entire page of anime streaming sites with the episodes online.

What can I, or we if others join me, do about this? Is there a way to report it to CR? Would it make a difference? Being the NA/English copyright holders they can pursue legal action but I've learned that in many cases such sites are ignored.
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there really is very little you can do, its just a matter of the morals of the people. even if it were free same day highest quality video sound and translation possible no ads and legally available for streaming, some would still rather go elsewhere for whatever reason they can make up.
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People can do what they want. No point getting bent out of shape for someone choices. Should we be up in arms about torrents as well? There probably a lot less people getting busted for illegal dls now than just 5 years ago. There's no stopping it anyway. And I think it's a bit petty to try and take the 'moral' high ground because that just creates a giant rabbit hole of what-if scenarios. Availability, time of release, finances, etc.

After all folks, CR itself was comprised of unlicensed, fan-subbed anime up until 2009. Best for us not to forget that.
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I can stream CR through my TV and phone. Totally worth the money.
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I personally have a CR account because I like current anime and I enjoy supporting the industry. I use netflix and hulu as well to watch anime but I honestly can't say downloading Anime bothers me. As an artist myself, I really couldn't care less if somebody pirates my music. I offer most of it for free anyway and accept donations. So I look at the entire pirating scene from the perspective of an artist who just enjoys sharing his expressions. I don't download myself only because I really do want to support the people that bring me a lot of joy from the anime I watch. But again, I could care less if other people pirate; I don't think people should be concerned with other people's affairs so much.
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I would agree with most of the previous post, there little we can do about it. But of course I support CR and it licensing and watching it through the main website. However like YuSooKey say CR started out the same way the other had, so it really comes down to the people.
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Looking at it for purely selfish reasons wouldn't it benefit me if more people paid for anime? Or anyone for that matter? Why then would anyone want to discourage that practice?

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Tekrelious wrote:

Looking at it for purely selfish reasons wouldn't it benefit me if more people paid for anime? Or anyone for that matter? Why then would anyone want to discourage that practice?



As the way it is now, all I can say people are cheap XD. And yea that does bring up a interesting point though
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Well there are different ways to look at it. Im currently trying the 14 day free trial on CR, and im quite satisfied with it. I will definitely buy a new month, but there are some issues. Some animes arent available in my country, thus i cant watch them here legally. Am i going to have to ship it and buy it for lots and lots of money? I love anime, and i watch a lot. How is a simple 18 year old student supposed to afford that? Personally i think you should support if possible, but still continue to enjoy new animes.
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People will always find a way to get illegal DLs and what not. what i enjoy abbout CR is the community. Everyone is friendly and has opinions what we agree and disagree on.
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YuSooKey wrote:

People can do what they want. No point getting bent out of shape for someone choices. Should we be up in arms about torrents as well? There probably a lot less people getting busted for illegal dls now than just 5 years ago. There's no stopping it anyway. And I think it's a bit petty to try and take the 'moral' high ground because that just creates a giant rabbit hole of what-if scenarios. Availability, time of release, finances, etc.

After all folks, CR itself was comprised of unlicensed, fan-subbed anime up until 2009. Best for us not to forget that.


Except those choices affect what we get since publishers see how well said business does and whether or not to continue doing business. I mean why do T.V. shows get canned? Cause they don't bring in the viewers.

Actually there are probably more Japanese being busted for uploading seeing as how a SOPA-litelike bill passed in Japan in addition to all the news stories of arrests from last year on CR. And why shouldn't authorities try? Your logic is basically "Well there is no stopping murder or violent acts so we should stop funding the police".

Plus CR went legit and now have (good) relations with their partners. Stop clinging to them being fansubbers like it matters anymore.


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WOW your are a fucking joke dude, I cannot believe such a illogical thread exists, BY FAR the worst THREAD I HAVE EVER Seen.
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cpblair83 wrote:

I personally have a CR account because I like current anime and I enjoy supporting the industry. I use netflix and hulu as well to watch anime but I honestly can't say downloading Anime bothers me. As an artist myself, I really couldn't care less if somebody pirates my music. I offer most of it for free anyway and accept donations. So I look at the entire pirating scene from the perspective of an artist who just enjoys sharing his expressions. I don't download myself only because I really do want to support the people that bring me a lot of joy from the anime I watch. But again, I could care less if other people pirate; I don't think people should be concerned with other people's affairs so much.


But one costs thousands/millions to make and gets back part of it via streaming revenue.

"How is a simple 18 year old student supposed to afford that?"

It's called a job.
And while it's hard, if enough people show interest in anime in your country, maybe t.v. stations will start licensing titles and eventually everything will follow. DL'ing won't help make progress.
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I don't do downloads, but I think fansubbers subtitling and video remaster are erratic and not uniform. I know that people waste time downloading niche animation that they're going to watch once and forget about it.

That being said, those sites and individuals are just annoyance rather than major threat.

What is more damaging to CR and other legal sites are illegal streaming sites. I forgave CR's past because they changed their ways. For these illegal stream sites, I'm not too sure because none of them step forward to help anime industry and do business legally. I love to see another legal streaming site that competes with CR and Hulu fair & square. If those illegal sites keep doing things by cheating, then it'll hurt them and their viewers eventually. Streaming eats up a lot of bandwidth and it requires good deal of money to run it. Also internet regulations are evolving as well, so they're not going to last forever.

As far as people's behaviors are concerned, I don't expect some teenagers to change their morally relative world view right away. They'll eventually grow out of it. They won't do permanent damage to the niche, independent film industry like anime.
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I have been watching fansubs all my life, because i don't really got the money to buy every anime i would like to watch and i would have to import it from the us or what not. Stumbled upon Cruchyroll a couple of weeks ago, apperently i had an old account.

Tried the 2 week trial thing u got when hooking up your card and today i paid for my first subscription. It's $6,95 USD, it's nothing. Your getting well subbed anime in HD quality.

But i don't see anything wrong with fansubs, you can't find all animes on crunchyroll (obviously) and fansubs kinda helps spreading the japan-anime culture.

Sooner or later the anime-fansub websites will be taken down, might as well enjoy it til' then. And for now do what we can to support the people who work hard on the anime we all love.
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I'd much rather support the real deal than I would anything else. That's why I have that purple star next to my name. If I want to watch anime, I want to support the people who make it what it is, be it the creators of an anime or the people who license them. When it comes down to it, it's up to every individual person to make their own decision.
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Man I do what I want.
If CR doesn't carry an anime I like, I go watch it somewhere else, plain and simple.


What makes the subscription worth the money is all the streaming anywhere (phones, tablets, gaming systems.)
That's worth the CR subscription.
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