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How many GB or even TB of anime do you have downloaded?
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

TheJudged wrote:

El O El indeed. The number of people who watch fansubs most likely do not contribute any revenue to the original source anyways. Which ^ to In that case, i'm pretty sure the authors/creators appreciate fans who actually provide monetary support for them to continue doing this line of work rather than those who claim they're fans when all they do is leech works for free.


That's a pretty gross assumption with absolutely no form of evidence to back it up. It's almost silly to think that there aren't many out there who do buy merchandise or other things to support an anime that they ended up liking. Revenue is earned and is usually rewarded where it's due.

If it's an anime someone watched on TV broadcast (no revenue earned yet) and ended up not liking it in the end...they wouldn't support it anyway even if they finished the show. It'd be like you watching a few episodes of a show on TV and deciding you didn't like it and then going out and buying the box set simply to support them because they gave you a few hours of TV viewing. They have to impress you first. Sometimes people like to know what they're buying, and that's the whole reason for downloading existing at all.

Sure, there are many out there who do not donate a dime and download on the regular...but that comes with the territory. You're going to have these grey areas no matter what, like people stealing things directly from a retail store or recording them as they air on DVR or on DVD/B-Ray.

The positive monetary effect of people finding anime that they enjoy through fan subs more than logically greatly outweighs that of the negatives, in this case the existence of fan-sub downloading leads to revenue in a round-a-bout way.

Without fan-subbing, the audience for a specific anime show might be several figures times less given as only native Japanese can view it, where as thanks to fan subbing, the entire planet has an opportunity to tap in to it and see if they like it.

Your numbers don't add up, buddy.
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I have about 17 series, with a total of 240 GB. Most of them will be taken off once I can get them legally. The others will be taken off once I stop being lazy.
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Posted 6/10/13
6 TB

Though I'm including hentai with that figure as well.
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Not as much as I used to since CR started getting more and more of the shows that I would like to watch.
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1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.
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Posted 6/10/13

Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.
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zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.


I can buy those though.
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.


I can buy those though.


Do you know how much anime out there is not "officially" localized (IE been given an english subtitle by a licensed publisher and is available in the US)?

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zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.


I can buy those though.


Do you know how much anime out there is not "officially" localized (IE been given an english subtitle by a licensed publisher and is available in the US)?



I do make a distinction between the ones legally available though. I just hate fansubs with a passion for what they represent in general. I guess I don't watch stuff that's not already streamed legally these days.
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

AnimeKami wrote:

Should I answer this truthfully...



I am like the anti collector/hoarder compare to most here. "JE_JE_JE_LAWL"

Full loaded to the drive, 0KB of Anime episode content.
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.


I can buy those though.


Do you know how much anime out there is not "officially" localized (IE been given an english subtitle by a licensed publisher and is available in the US)?



I do make a distinction between the ones legally available though. I just hate fansubs with a passion for what they represent in general. I guess I don't watch stuff that's not already streamed legally these days.



I can see this topic sliding down hill into the "fansubbers are all evil and stupid and should be tossed in jail" pit.
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:


zipzo wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

1 movie - "Only Yesterday" because it never came out in the USA Aside from that.. Zero. I hate illegal crap. With CR now though there's really now excuse.


Except the anime CR doesn't have...which is a lot of anime.


I can buy those though.


Do you know how much anime out there is not "officially" localized (IE been given an english subtitle by a licensed publisher and is available in the US)?



I do make a distinction between the ones legally available though. I just hate fansubs with a passion for what they represent in general. I guess I don't watch stuff that's not already streamed legally these days.


What exactly do fansubs represent aside from a desire to share anime with those not quite as fortunate to live in Japan? They sure aren't making any money in the original creators' stead by putting work in to translating and simply uploading them.

Are you going to tell me they represent the malicious need to cut down the anime business by shorting companies of their well deserved royalties?
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13

Arsenette wrote:

What exactly do fansubs represent aside from a desire to share anime with those not quite as fortunate to live in Japan? They sure aren't making any money in the original creators' stead by putting work in to translating and simply uploading them.

Are you going to tell me they represent the malicious need to cut down the anime business by shorting companies of their well deserved royalties?


If the anime is already licensed and sold here in the USA (or at the very least available with English subs) I buy those. Stealing work that could otherwise be bought is just not defendable. When I see Fansubs of shows that are already available through legal streaming and/or available for sale it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. While not ALL of the problems in the anime industry are because of illegal downloading they certainly do not help the cause. So yes they do deserve the royalties.

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zipzo wrote:

What exactly do fansubs represent aside from a desire to share anime with those not quite as fortunate to live in Japan? They sure aren't making any money in the original creators' stead by putting work in to translating and simply uploading them.

Are you going to tell me they represent the malicious need to cut down the anime business by shorting companies of their well deserved royalties?


To show off their E-peen by subbing faster than the other groups.

And um, they get money from ad views, download links, and donations (which ironically should have gone to the creators of the shows since they're the one making the material for groups to sub in the first place)
lol thinking sub groups do this for free. How do you think they pay for their expenses?
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I forgot all about this thread and I made it lol
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