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I think you should suffer through the whole series with me! lol It could be one of those oddball shows thats only good once you have seen the whole series through. >.>
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kitsuneshoujo wrote:

I think you should suffer through the whole series with me! lol It could be one of those oddball shows thats only good once you have seen the whole series through. >.>


Damn that logic. Ok, I'm in so long as we keep posting how weird these episodes are! ;)
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ok things make sense now, somewhat

Interesting implications regarding the three sisters and I have to wonder how things got transferred to her brother. He is clearly unaware of it and there seems to be an effort to keep him that way.
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Posted 1/20/13

deadpanditto wrote:


kitsuneshoujo wrote:

I think you should suffer through the whole series with me! lol It could be one of those oddball shows thats only good once you have seen the whole series through. >.>


Damn that logic. Ok, I'm in so long as we keep posting how weird these episodes are! ;)


I have no plans on not posting the weirdness of the show. I watched every bit of Paranoia Agent and was completely lost until the very end... this is giving me the same feeling. Strangely, I like being lost in story plots sometimes. I guess it depends on how interesting the scenery is while lost.
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I liked the first episode. It was just so weird, odd, and almost had a Serial Experiments Lain vibe to it. I'm digging it.

There were a few things that cracked me up. The eroge and the "This story contains explicit visuals and chocolate." lolwut.

I am hooked.
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Posted 1/27/13
There is a delightful absurdity to the logic in this show that works. It's like a cross between Bakemonogatari with Kyousougiga. :)

In this episode we learn more about Sasami's relationship to her brother and who the sisters really are. And having an extra hand is always helpful.
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What helps me with some shows is to conceptualize them thematically, and I think this show is actually rather rich in this regard. Note the first post: "In the outside world, the three beautiful Yagami sisters and Sasami's brother are in the middle of relationships worthy of a romantic comedy."

So first, that's totally an accurate description of what's going on, and second, it's made fascinatingly complicated by the introduction of the omniscient Sasami. She hovers around the action of the outside world, simultaneously crapping on it, while overwhelmingly warped into its happenings. Moreover, she can't enter this outside world; she can only observe it, belittle it, desire it, from a distance.

Thus, Sasami is a stand-in for the otaku audience (at least as the term is used in the controversial cultural dialogue) - she's referential and belittling, but ultimately obsessive and desirous. And she can't partake. She can't engage herself in the drama, hence her ennui. Meanwhile, the outside world is the game, the anime, the manga - it's flater than the real world, but alluring in that emotive quality; more scandalous, more salacious, more simplistic. Tropes proliferate (three sisters?), and the male character is made hilariously faceless. He is the standard hero of the harem genre; a faceless slave to the emotional whims of the player or viewer (here reified in his physical slavery to his sister Sasami).

With this framework in mind, I think the particular content of the episodes start to make sense. The first episode is about chocolate, so much so that the whole world becomes engulfed in the tasty stuff. And this predicament is born of Sasami's social anxiety - she wants to give chocolate to her brother, but she can't quite do it; her plan falls through. Then the world changes. Chocolate engulfs everything, taking over the nouns of every sentence, every description. Besides being funny, it's kind of a genius take on how little objects - like chocolate - being to taken on symbolic meaning, such that they threaten to symbolize an entire relationship. Sasami feels threatened because the chocolate summarizes her feelings for her brother; when the chocolate is lost, the relationship suffers by proxy. The cognitive dissonance Sasami feels is the dissonance we sometimes feel when we use objects to symbolize our feelings; the objects have different connotations to different people, and are thus fallible. But yet we need them, to say the things we're uncomfortable with vocalizing.

The second episode is a take on a rather old topic, at least for the internet age - GodWhomIsMike is totally right to compare the show to Serial Experiments Lain. The sinister quality of the game reifies the fear that lurks in the back of the mind of some participants in MMOs, that these games are actually sucking their lives away as they burn hours upon days upon weeks in a virtual construct.

I think the mythological component of the show is also really interesting. First of all, I think it's the same story in a different idiom that not only intertwines with the main story, but runs parallel to it, providing a juxtaposition. This juxtaposition is very valuable as commentary on modern Japanese culture; I think what it's saying is that otaku culture, if not all modern culture, is a recent variant of older themes and psychologies. Anime, rather than being an incomprehensible break from the past, is embedded in a cultural milieu that has existed for centuries, and is no more subversive or dangerous than the wild myths of old.

That's my take on the show, and it's helping me watch it. Shinbo is a very interesting director, but his content is rife with a pubescent sexuality that I simultaneously try not to judge, consider analytically fascinating, and find viscerally abhorrent. It makes the shows hard to watch, sometimes, but this show, along with Bakemonogatari, are so thematically and visually interesting that they should be watched.
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FINALLY I think I found a clearing in the dense forest known as Sasami-san... I actually understand it a little now. lol
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Holy fuck batman wall of text…
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tryptophan1991 wrote:
What helps me with some shows is to conceptualize them thematically, and I think this show is actually rather rich in this regard.


I think that's the major reason why I continue to watch. When you watch carefully, the show really does make sense and it has a lot of subtext that is fun to explore.


tryptophan1991 wrote:
I think the mythological component of the show is also really interesting. First of all, I think it's the same story in a different idiom that not only intertwines with the main story, but runs parallel to it, providing a juxtaposition. This juxtaposition is very valuable as commentary on modern Japanese culture; I think what it's saying is that otaku culture, if not all modern culture, is a recent variant of older themes and psychologies. Anime, rather than being an incomprehensible break from the past, is embedded in a cultural milieu that has existed for centuries, and is no more subversive or dangerous than the wild myths of old.
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Shinbo is a very interesting director, but his content is rife with a pubescent sexuality that I simultaneously try not to judge, consider analytically fascinating, and find viscerally abhorrent. It makes the shows hard to watch, sometimes, but this show, along with Bakemonogatari, are so thematically and visually interesting that they should be watched.


I wholeheartedly agree. He's definitely having fun with the tropes that make this genre successful, especially the incest angle. He's slyly mocking otaku "culture" while placing it within a bigger mythological context. That contrast is fun to explore.

Ep 4 has a fun meta loop with watchers watching the watcher at several different levels. :)


AnimeKami wrote:
Holy fuck batman wall of text…


Maybe he didn't pick Tryptophan as a username by accident. ;)
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Posted 2/3/13
Sometimes its hard to pay attention to whats going on and read subtitiles... sometimes. But I've been watching subbed anime so long that i feel like I autopilot the reading. Its just when theres a lot to read that it gets a bit hard.
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Maybe he didn't pick Tryptophan as a username by accident. ;)


I put myself to sleep.
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Posted 2/3/13
Or you're just a turkey.
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I think the show is pretty interesting overall. Feels like the Monogataris minus the random flashing text. I like the unique approach on... Shintoism, I believe? Will buy when Sentai releases. On another anime site that I frequent, the Sasami thread is pretty dead, so I guess I'll post here from now on.
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A damn erudite turkey, than!

With way

way

way

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too much time on its hands.

Or a penchant for avoiding thesis work.
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