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Im going to start this and HxH at the same time.
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Im going to start this and HxH at the same time.
When you start Chihayafuru you will want to keep watching it to the end so I suggest you do that instead! Both seasons!
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Im going to start this and HxH at the same time.

Those would be weird shows to watch together.

I guess they'd balance each other out though.
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Just watched episode 25...

The last episode was pretty good, although ended on a note in which I knew what was happening next. I guess I'll go read the manga :P.

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Just watched episode 25...

The last episode was pretty good, although ended on a note in which I knew what was happening next. I guess I'll go read the manga :P.


I read a review by someone who speaks Japanese and he said the actual language Chihaya used while talking about Arata was kept ambiguous (like when Chihaya was in the hospital and said she would always love karuta and she would always love Arata; the word choice wasn't as definitive/strong as the translation suggests).

And the manga is very good; the anime ended on chapter 94.
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BeanWantaBurger wrote:

Just watched episode 25...

The last episode was pretty good, although ended on a note in which I knew what was happening next. I guess I'll go read the manga :P.


I read a review by someone who speaks Japanese and he said the actual language Chihaya used while talking about Arata was kept ambiguous (like when Chihaya was in the hospital and said she would always love karuta and she would always love Arata; the word choice wasn't as definitive/strong as the translation suggests).

And the manga is very good; the anime ended on chapter 94.


Hmm, so it could be that maybe she doesn't love him in a romantic way? Although I think she does, especially because Oe-san caught onto it.
And thank you for telling me the chapter!! I'm someone who's usually resilient to reading manga (too lazy, although I enjoy books) so I know I'm hooked when I pick up the manga as well :P.
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Hmm, so it could be that maybe she doesn't love him in a romantic way? Although I think she does, especially because Oe-san caught onto it.
And thank you for telling me the chapter!! I'm someone who's usually resilient to reading manga (too lazy, although I enjoy books) so I know I'm hooked when I pick up the manga as well :P.

He said it was more along the lines of "like" rather than "love" in that context with respect to another person. So it's just really ambiguous, although presumably potentially romantic (hedging a bit since this is all second-hand).

Edit: Source for the translation discussion (there's almost a full paragraph on it).


But I think the reason Suetsugu used "suki" here is to express the fact that Chihaya still cannot separate her feelings for Arata and her feelings for Karuta - which I think is a vital theme going forward. It isn't so much that the CR translation was wrong, but that it - like the later line translated as "receive Arata's passion" when the far more natural translation is "respond to that kind of passion" - seems intended to convey something definitive when the author probably intended to be ambiguous.

The manga is only up to chapter 112, so catching up won't take long. I think chapters come out twice a month.
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I've always thought Chihaya's infatuation was very clearly tied to Karuta. Obviously Arata is a dear friend of hers as well but the fact that he is a karuta savant makes him like an unreachable god to her. She's too busy looking up to his ability to play for her feelings to be obviously romantic, whether they are or not.
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The Japanese say "suki" for' love' for people but 'like' for things. She said "suki" for karuta and Arata so she used it in both contexts. They have other words for love for a person when you want there to be no mistake but "suki desu" is the simplest way of saying "I love you" though it can be closer to "I like you" even there it means I like you romantically for this sort of relationship, it doesn't just mean "let's be friends". Still, she didn't say it to Arata so it was not a confession of love to him, they were words to herself.

The actual manga is up to chapter 115, not sure where the free/illegal translations are. It runs in BE LOVE magazine, not a free web download. BE LOVE is published twice a month on the 1st and 15th so 115 just came out, 114 came out on June 15th. However, not all the series running in BE LOVE come out twice a month or twice every month. Chihayafuru skipped an issue just recently, 2013 #11 IIRC had no chapter but #12 and #13 did as does #14, the current one with chapter 115.

Tankobon 21 just came out and was up to chapter 113. 22 comes out in September with the OVA.
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What I got out of it was not the fascination with that one line.. it was the fact that she JUST noticed the feelings and didn't know what to do with them. THEN she said the line with the intention that even if she can't figure out what these feelings are after she spoke with him.. she knows she will never have ill will towards him. Right now she herself is becoming aware of the feelings and is still digesting what that means overall. She likes him for sure but to pair it up with her unquestionable love (and she used the word for both) is an interesting thing indeed. That said.. she's still just becoming aware of her feelings as was foreseen by Kana by reading the poem. What I find interesting was when I was watching Utakoi and that one emperor (the one that was only Emperor for a few short years during his childhood) wrote a poem and his wife realized his TRUE feelings for her.. even HE didn't realize how articulate he became with the feelings he didn't realize he had. I'm putting that in that category. She's starting to analyze that every single time someone asked her about a boy she liked.. or at least wanted to know what he was doing. her mind always turned to Arata. It seems now, especially since that new stronger feeling overcame her when she was talking to Arata (finding out that he thought of them and that's why he smiled all the time) she's starting to really analyze what it is that she is going through. ooooooooooooomg I want Season 3 now..
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You're dying for season 3, I am dying for chapter 115 which should be at my house tomorrow LOL I just can't wait at all!!!
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BeanWantaBurger wrote:

Hmm, so it could be that maybe she doesn't love him in a romantic way? Although I think she does, especially because Oe-san caught onto it.
And thank you for telling me the chapter!! I'm someone who's usually resilient to reading manga (too lazy, although I enjoy books) so I know I'm hooked when I pick up the manga as well :P.

He said it was more along the lines of "like" rather than "love" in that context with respect to another person. So it's just really ambiguous, although presumably potentially romantic (hedging a bit since this is all second-hand).

Edit: Source for the translation discussion (there's almost a full paragraph on it).



Thank you again for the info! And interesting.. I wonder if she actually could like Arata. Thanks again :)!
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I started watching this series in December, and it is my favorite show on Crunchyroll, and was excited when the 2nd season came out only a few weeks after I finished watching the 1st season. Since there hasn't been any indication that the show is coming out on DVD or BluRay in the United States, does anyone have any idea where a person could appeal for the release of the show digitally on iTunes or similar instead?

I'm curious if companies would consider going the digital release route is the way to get additional sales for shows that will never get disc releases here in the USA.
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I just realized these subs replace titles like 6-dan with (grade 6).

Amounts to the same thing, but it slipped by me.

So Class D = 1-dan, Class C = 1-dan, Class B = 2-dan and 3-dan, and Class A is 4-dan through 9-dan?

Edit: Although it might stop at 7-dan since there aren't professional players like there are in Go.

Edit: Apparently it goes through 10-dan, according to S2 episode 16. That seems really high though for some reason.

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Insomnist wrote:

I just realized these subs replace titles like 6-dan with (grade 6).

Amounts to the same thing, but it slipped by me.

So Class D = 1-dan, Class C = 1-dan, Class B = 2-dan and 3-dan, and Class A is 4-dan through 9-dan?

Edit: Although it might stop at 7-dan since there aren't professional players like there are in Go.

Edit: Apparently it goes through 10-dan, according to S2 episode 16. That seems really high though for some reason.



The dan grades usually go up to 10, all martial arts have them. Many now have kyuu grades too but that is a relatively recent addition.

Higher dan grades are usually honorary, some are only given posthumously.
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