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Posted 7/12/13 , edited 7/12/13

AnimeKami wrote:

... dat ending >.>

It was somewhat painful watching the second half of s2. I had the willpower to finish the anime via Ayase.

Hmm, (aside from Chihaya ) was there anything about the show that u personally liked? How did u feel about the music? Were u at all surprised by the outcome of some of the National Tournament matches (in particular in the 2nd season), and of the match between Arata and Shinobu at the end?
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AnimeKami wrote:

... dat ending >.>

It was somewhat painful watching the second half of s2. I had the willpower to finish the anime via Ayase.

Could you define "painful"? I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative.

I'd like to hear any general thoughts you might have on having finished it as well if you don't mind a little prying.
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Arsenette wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

... dat ending >.>

It was somewhat painful watching the second half of s2. I had the willpower to finish the anime via Ayase.


So wait.. you finally finished Season 1 and 2 in marathon then? I thought you wanted action and most of season 2 was it. I'm not sure what it is that you wanted to watch? Just trying to get a feel for your anime tastes and what you expected this one to turn out in the end.


First, I do not like sports animes. There is a limited amount of "stuff" a sports anime can do before it gets out of hand and becomes ridiculous and unbelievable. Chihayafuru is anything but, the anime was believable and was not ridiculous. So, with the believability in playing karuta the animation and grapics (which were good) is also limited. I am hesitant in my word choice of: "slapping a card is still slapping a card regardless of how much animation is put in at the end of the day." I think. I will leave the action part of Chihayafuru at this.

I have always been a sucker for romances, the somewhat limited romance between Chihaya, Taichi, and Arata is what I wanted to see more than anything else.

With the sentence above, I looked at this anime and saw karuta and even more karuta and every character trying to get better at karuta (and other associations), and I wanted to see the relationships gone more in-depth after the karuta stuff.

At the end of the day I watched all 50 episodes it was ok. I can't say anything hateful about it, it is more nitpicking on personal preferences that I would of like to see which they didn't tell.



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AnimeKami wrote:

... dat ending >.>

It was somewhat painful watching the second half of s2. I had the willpower to finish the anime via Ayase.

Hmm, (aside from Chihaya ) was there anything about the show that u personally liked? How did u feel about the music? Were u at all surprised by the outcome of some of the National Tournament matches (in particular in the 2nd season), and of the match between Arata and Shinobu at the end?


I did like the music, there were times that the usage of insert songs were very appropriate. I would say given the amount of episodes and circumstances Taichi is the best character of the series. I like his underdog undertone because he is trying to get better at karuta in order to confess with Chihaya.

Without having reading the manga if I am 95% confident if Chihaya confesses to Arata he would say no... also if Taichi confesses Chihaya would be dimwitted and be confused as to what to do, then her karuta would be affected etc...

Lol, I don't want to sound like an egotistic ass but it was very predictable at the end. The anime is so rudimentary in structure I would be more surprised if they didn't win.


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AnimeKami wrote:

... dat ending >.>

It was somewhat painful watching the second half of s2. I had the willpower to finish the anime via Ayase.

Could you define "painful"? I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative.

I'd like to hear any general thoughts you might have on having finished it as well if you don't mind a little prying.


Painful... my nociceptors were firing, haha umm...

In an anime, in this case a sports anime the focus is the sport, then character development, plot (actual plot), and the other stuff accumulates under said sport. Chihayafuru had this exact pattern and what the storyboard does is it make the characters be better at the sport. Being better at the sport takes away a lot of character interaction without the sports medium. I wanted to see interactions without the mention of the sport.

The anime ended on a positive note but it didn't strike me in a way for me to watch it again.
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I am double posting on purpose since it has no affiliation with the one above.

so... if you slap 3 cards and the idea is if the card matches in 1 of the 3 that is ok.

Can't I slap the whole board?
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AnimeKami wrote:

I am double posting on purpose since it has no affiliation with the one above.

so... if you slap 3 cards and the idea is if the card matches in 1 of the 3 that is ok.

Can't I slap the whole board?


Pretty sure that as long as you hit the correct side you don't get a fault. So if you hit the "whole board" you would get a fault because that involves hitting cards on both sides. BUT, as stated in season one when Chihaya first started playing, you can hit all the cards around an area if you want.

The negatives of this strategy is that you need accuracy to beat the faster players or else they will knock the correct card away while you sweep away all the other cards.

So, you can do that but it is a beginner strategy
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Thanks for going in depth a bit. I like this anime too much to be objective about it, but at the same time I realize it's something I can't blanket-recommend to just anyone. So the more analytical pros/cons breakdown really helped.

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And it's also my understanding that you can hit as many cards as you like as long as they're all on the same side and you hit the appropriate card as well; but precision and speed definitely come into play against experienced players.
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Thanks for answering the questions I appreciate you took the time to a) go through the whole series and b) give your complete opinion on it. As for the romance.. there's a bunch of us who BEG for more of that so you are not alone I hope there is more in Season 3! (if there ever is one.. )

So.. you didn't ask another question though.. Team Taichi? or Team Arata? LOL
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Based upon rules in the manga (or my reading of them, which could be mistaken-- still a Japanese learner here), you can actually sweep away as many cards as you care to on the Same Side as the card that is being read, and not be charged a fault. Of course, doing so without actually hitting the card that's being read as well gets you nothing. However, if you even touch a card on the Other Side (i.e. territory opposite of the card that's being read), that's a fault (o-tetsuki), and your opponent gets to send you a card; if you sweep a whole bunch of cards on the wrong side, each one of those is a fault. So, it seems sweeping can be an effective move, but it must be combined with sufficient accuracy or else you can sink yourself pretty quick with one wrong move.
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I mistakenly wrote arata the first time because the other post asked "arata or taichi" and I guess subconsciously everyone wants taichi to win but good structure is alphabetical for names. So I wrote arata.

However I am 110% team taichi.

edit: if I ever play karuta I am just smacking the side of which the card matches, lol.

also I keep typing karuto >.>
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sushipath wrote:

Based upon rules in the manga (or my reading of them, which could be mistaken-- still a Japanese learner here), you can actually sweep away as many cards as you care to on the Same Side as the card that is being read, and not be charged a fault. Of course, doing so without actually hitting the card that's being read as well gets you nothing. However, if you even touch a card on the Other Side (i.e. territory opposite of the card that's being read), that's a fault (o-tetsuki), and your opponent gets to send you a card; if you sweep a whole bunch of cards on the wrong side, each one of those is a fault. So, it seems sweeping can be an effective move, but it must be combined with sufficient accuracy or else you can sink yourself pretty quick with one wrong move.

My bad; you're right.

As long as you're on the side with the correct card it doesn't matter what you touch or don't touch, it's not a fault. If you touch a card on the wrong side it's a fault (worth one card) and if you touch a card on the wrong side and your opponent touches the correct card it's a double fault (worth two cards). A fault from a dead card is also a double fault.

I don't think faults compound if you touch multiple cards though; I've at least never seen that happen.

But I could be wrong.
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AnimeKami wrote:

also I keep typing karuto >.>

Maybe because it sounds like Naruto!


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I don't think faults compound if you touch multiple cards though; I've at least never seen that happen.

But I could be wrong.

Yeah, I've looked at different sites that explain the Karuta rules (though none of them are from any official Karuta site unfortunately), but the most they ever talk about are "Double Faults". There doesn't seem to be any mention about what happens if multiple cards are touched on the wrong side.


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it was very predictable at the end. The anime is so rudimentary in structure I would be more surprised if they didn't win.

Yeah, don't worry, I thought it was a bit predictable as well, judging by how fast paced the series seems to be (straight from season 1) when it comes to the characters achieving success in their Karuta endeavors - so it would only make sense for the main characters to mostly keep winning (and improving). However, I still very much loved the drama of it all and the character interactions, and inspirational moments of the characters overcoming hardships, etc.

I honestly think maybe they should do only 1 more 2 cour season, and then maybe leave it at that, and possibly follow it up with an OVA or 2 or 3. Anything more than another 2 cour season, I think, may be dragging it a bit, since they've already established a fast pace in the 1st 2 seasons, in terms of Karuta growth in Chihaya, and to me, I think this whole series is really about Chihaya and her achieving her main goal as becoming Queen of Karuta, and I think she's already really close to that. She also already achieved her other goal of having the number 1 team in Japan. So what's left? I think Arata dethroning the King of Karuta is the next major thing to happen, but I would suspect that Arata would lose his first match against him, which would cause him to practice harder, etc. and during their next match, and I'd imagine he'll barely beat him by a card or 2 (it wouldn't make sense to drag this out, imo, especially with how this series is, and I'm sure they want to show us inspiring scenes and what hard-work can do, thus it would make sense to not have Arata keep losing to him). And once that happens, the only main thing that's left is for Chihaya to take out the Queen, and I would suspect, after rigorous training, she'll do that by the end of a possible season 3 (if it's a 2 cour) as well as making use of the reason why this anime is called "Chihayafuru" and linking her love with the Chihaya card to her love for Arata. Although, they kinda already did that at the end of season 2, but I'd imagine Chihaya will be more verbal about it next time. After that, I'd suspect they'll end the main part of the series like that, and possibly come up with some OVAs for other Karuta competitions like Representative-like ones (like the Olympics), where Team Japan battles Team USA, Team Germany, etc. Can u imagine a Team Japan that consisted of Chihaya, Arata, Shinobu, Suō-san (current Meijin), and maybe Megumu (or Taichi). With a team like that, how could they not win at least 3 matches out of 5, lol. Although, something tells me Suō-san doesn't like team matches, so he prolly wouldn't participate, but I think Shinobu might. Then again, are there enough Karuta players around the world to have an Olympic-style competition, or is Karuta pretty much only played in Japan?
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I'm assuming that since the poems are in Japanese any other language would not do the game justice (history wise).
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According to Wikipedia barely anyone outside Japan even knew karuta existed before Chihayafuru drew attention to it. Wikipedia being Wikipedia, take that as you will. As for the length though we can definitely expect at least another full season based on the manga. They might pull a Harry Potter and end it there at the eventual high school graduation with an epilogue (so far each season has corresponded neatly with a school year, more or less) or they could go further.

Arata's college bargain makes me expect either that they'll go further or there'll be a time skip.

What I like about Chihayafuru though is how the "shounen power-up" model actually works here. It's presumably a realistic portrayal of the sport and how you would progress through it, in so far as I can judge. But now that the karuta side of things has been thoroughly explored we might see more of Arata, the romance angle, and the future of the club itself (kind of wondering if Chihaya will get her wish and turn her school into a powerhouse after winning nationals).

While the story has progressed a lot it really hasn't resolved anything yet. So there's a lot left to cover.

Anyway; random collection of related thoughts is random.
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there is an ova not sure where that takes place but pretty far imo

we'll see how that goes
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Insomnist wrote:

(kind of wondering if Chihaya will get her wish and turn her school into a powerhouse after winning nationals).


I can kind of see that happening, but probably only when she becomes Queen of Karuta. Because if that happens, no doubt that would attract a lot of attention (good publicity) for the school and people would then want to go to the same school as her to play Karuta, etc.


AnimeKami wrote:

there is an ova not sure where that takes place but pretty far imo

Well, I'd wager that OVA will just be the 2 days training camp @ Fujisaki, but who knows for sure I guess.
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