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Do they choose to act this way, or is it solely the result of their upbringing as a child? Is there a point in attempting to make a human being feel inhuman?
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I've never really perceived adults as having a lack of empathy. I think if anything, their experiences would have made them 'tough' which would give them the appearance of being uncaring.

I have a certain lack of empathy as well, which can be a burden, but it is in my personality and I can't just decide to be empathetic and have it happen overnight. I think I may always be this way, but it is not by choice or because of my upbringing.

So for some people, it may just be in their nature, and for others it could be because of "growing up" and having to eliminate softness from their personality in order to make it in the world. For some people, it could possibly be their upbringing. There's really no right answer. It's the whole nature vs nurture argument over and over again.

Is there a point in attempting to make someone feel inhuman? I'm not sure what this question is asking, to be honest. Not in the context of the other questions, at least.
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To act unempathetically is an attempt to make a person feel inhuman, that is the point of the question, it is an inquiry into the reasoning behind unempathetic behavior.

You don't have to look any farther than these forums to find adults (or people who claim to be adults on their accounts) who act unempathetically. They call other people names and regard their ideas as being wrong without providing acceptable explanations as to why they are wrong, just merely assuming they are wrong because they come from a "dumb" person. I suppose you could regard these people as "trolls", but it begs the question of what causes them to act in such a manner. There is overwhelming scientific evidence in support of nurturing, but the fact that there are so many "adults" on here that act unempathetically makes me wonder whether nature still has a legit case. Is it safe to assume that all of these people were not nurtured correctly, or is it in their own personal nature to be unempathetic on occasion?
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People have different personalities. That's one vital difference that we all have that gives us the ability to call ourselves "humans," y'know? Some of those kinds of people may have that element of selfishness. Other people like that are just ignorant. And, lastly, some people who you are talking about just like to give people the blunt and honest truth.

The best way to deal with these kinds of people are to mimic their personalities rather than try to "talk some sense into them." It's just a sign of the times; you can't forget, everyone has an internet persona--they're a lot safer behind the screen than they are face-to-face. I'm a great example of that. Take a look at the results of the personality test I took that I have on my profile--it's true, I really believe that I'm 100% introverted. But online, I feel like I can be a lot more open-minded because I'm not standing face-to-face with someone.
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Some "people" barely evolve beyond the basic animal state of consciousness.

As for the why, it's most likely a combination of upbringing and a lack of pure and/or emotional intelligence. There are others who've lived through trauma that has irreversibly changed their mental state. It could be viewed as an extreme survival mechanism, at least in today's relatively stable society.
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To act unempathetically is an attempt to make a person feel inhuman, that is the point of the question, it is an inquiry into the reasoning behind unempathetic behavior.


Empathy is the capacity to understand and recognize emotions that another person is experiencing. So it doesn't make sense to say that to act without empathy is an intentional attempt to make another person feel inhuman. If you lack empathy, you are just incapable of relating to the emotions of other people. Which, in some ways, can make you seem inhuman, but is not necessarily an intent to make others feel inhuman. Actually, you could probably say that a person who lacks empathy would look down on them because they are too human.

But I suppose it could be a societal issue. Over the internet, there are no repercussions for actions, which naturally increases the level of freedom at which a person will speak. It takes a certain level of maturity to not abuse this power. And I think this can carry over into the real world for some people.

There have also been many studies that support the theory that humanity is inherently "good." And yet, we develop selfishness and cruel intentions as we age. It is only through conditioning that we learn to be kind and compassionate and selfless. Theoretically, you could assume that as humanity evolves, there is less emphasis on being kind and compassionate and selfless, and therefore, we become more concerned about ourselves and more judgmental of others. We would lose what we call "empathy' in that situation.

In this case, it would come down to nurture, but at a societal, worldly level.

There is no "reasoning" behind behaving in such a way, it is simply a trait that one possesses. If a person were to act like a sociopath intentionally, then that person is not actually a sociopath, but simply someone who wants to be that way. But why would anyone want to lack empathy? Because they believe emotions and a moral compass are a burden. They've seen people like this on TV and in movies, and think they look "cool" and want to be that way too. They believe it is a desirable trait, so they mimic it.
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I feel like in my own experience everyone is different some people are just a*holes .... hey there is apparently 7 people born ever second now~ and only 1.8 who pass on... there are a lot of people
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Empathy is learned behavior, so the most "humane" or human-like treatment is to be unconcerned with others. There may or may not be a point, trying to figure that out is impossible though..
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Sincerity can have the appearance of a lack of empathy. In the day-to-day lives of adults, we are required to be so unaffected by many things in life as to maintain our professional composure.
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Why do adults commit:
- sexual assaults
- homicides
- hate crimes

If any of the above are attributable to psychological problems, why can't we get proper help to these people before they become criminals? How can we successfully eradicate these psychological problems from this world?

If any of the above are not attributable to psychological problems, then why do people choose to commit these crimes?

Does everyone want to live in a world where these crimes do not exist?
-If so, then why do they occur in the first place?
-If not, then how can you justify this suffering?
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lordseth23 wrote:

Why do adults commit:
- sexual assaults
- homicides
- hate crimes



For the same reason people do anything else. Stop being so emo about it.


lordseth23 wrote:

If any of the above are attributable to psychological problems, why can't we get proper help to these people before they become criminals? How can we successfully eradicate these psychological problems from this world?


Most of the crimes are not a result of mental illness. To pre diagnose everyone of all possible mental conditions would require weekly mental health screenings for every human being, and those with potential issues ( like the depression your posts tend to give off) would be treated as second class citizens, or mental deficients.


lordseth23 wrote:

If any of the above are not attributable to psychological problems, then why do people choose to commit these crimes?

Does everyone want to live in a world where these crimes do not exist?
-If so, then why do they occur in the first place?
-If not, then how can you justify this suffering?



For the ALL of same reasons people do anything else. Stop being so emo about it.

No some people don't care about crime, and some like crime.

Because humans are imperfect. The fight, they love, they become jealous, they become hopeless, they look down on others, they look down on themselves, and a million other reasons.

Life contains suffering. It does not need to justify itself. It would be like asking a fire why its hot, it is in it very nature. Everyone suffers in some way.

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WildTyger wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:

Why do adults commit:
- sexual assaults
- homicides
- hate crimes



For the same reason people do anything else. Stop being so emo about it.


lordseth23 wrote:

If any of the above are attributable to psychological problems, why can't we get proper help to these people before they become criminals? How can we successfully eradicate these psychological problems from this world?


Most of the crimes are not a result of mental illness. To pre diagnose everyone of all possible mental conditions would require weekly mental health screenings for every human being, and those with potential issues ( like the depression your posts tend to give off) would be treated as second class citizens, or mental deficients.


lordseth23 wrote:

If any of the above are not attributable to psychological problems, then why do people choose to commit these crimes?

Does everyone want to live in a world where these crimes do not exist?
-If so, then why do they occur in the first place?
-If not, then how can you justify this suffering?



For the ALL of same reasons people do anything else. Stop being so emo about it.

No some people don't care about crime, and some like crime.

Because humans are imperfect. The fight, they love, they become jealous, they become hopeless, they look down on others, they look down on themselves, and a million other reasons.

Life contains suffering. It does not need to justify itself. It would be like asking a fire why its hot, it is in it very nature. Everyone suffers in some way.
So your attitude is one of belittlement, then why don't you take your own advice and apply it on your own opinion? And don't "being so emo about it", it's not like you've developed "learned-helplessness" as your self-imposed personality trait, and the only way you can justify your own helpless existence is by yourself assimilating others to become the same as you. That can't be your sole purpose in life now, is it?[/sarcasm]


I apply everything I just said to my own life everyday. I'm simple sharing what I have learned about life. I belittle no one. I don't feel helpless. I whole heartedly believe that everyone can work hard and make their life somewhat better. I don't assimilate. I am a very unusual person in many senses of the word, but I too am human, so everything I said above applies to me as well (including the stop being emo part).
Posted 1/15/13 , edited 1/16/13

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DomFortress wrote:

So your attitude is one of belittlement, then why don't you take your own advice and apply it on your own opinion? And don't "being so emo about it", it's not like you've developed "learned-helplessness" as your self-imposed personality trait, and the only way you can justify your own helpless existence is by yourself assimilating others to become the same as you. That can't be your sole purpose in life now, is it?[/sarcasm]


I apply everything I just said to my own life everyday. I'm simple sharing what I have learned about life. I belittle no one. I don't feel helpless. I whole heartedly believe that everyone can work hard and make their life somewhat better. I don't assimilate. I am a very unusual person in many senses of the word, but I too am human, so everything I said above applies to me as well (including the stop being emo part).
Really? And you sharing sentimental fluff while telling others to "stop being emo", somehow doesn't account yourself being an emo hypocrite. Plus I'm supposed to just assumed that you're "sharing" this, based on your claim of yourself believing in the goodness of our shared humanity. And yet there you were, belittling all of us humans "are imperfect. The(y) fight, they love, they become jealous, they become hopeless, they look down on others, they look down on themselves"(mostly your words, with the exception of letter "y" for clarity).

So the truth is at least for yourself, you're an habitual liar, who's constantly projecting your most noble and ideal self, just so that you might 1)score points from both sides of the argument, and 2)win yourself some allies along the way. And that's assimilation by definition, not your opinion/reputation.

Assimilation is a term referring to another part of the adaptation process initially proposed by Jean Piaget. Through assimilation, we take in new information or experiences and incorporate them into our existing ideas. The process is somewhat subjective, because we tend to modify experience or information somewhat to fit in with our preexisting beliefs.(citation)

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Oh, such sanctimonious piety, such holiness, the likes of which has not been seen since the great and saintly man, Tartuffe, entered the house of Orgon. This modern Tartuffe, like his great ancestor, propose to censor the great and mighty Others, sinners and reprobates damned to hell for their 'inhumanity' and 'lack of empathy'. This devout austere, this eremite, demand from us to follow his example, and be 'empathetic people', people made in his image. If I did not know any better, the saint aspires to Godhood!
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Oh, such sanctimonious piety, such holiness, the likes of which has not been seen since the great and saintly man, Tartuffe, entered the house of Orgon. This modern Tartuffe, like his great ancestor, propose to censor the great and mighty Others, sinners and reprobates damned to hell for their 'inhumanity' and 'lack of empathy'. This devout austere, this eremite, demand from us to follow his example, and be 'empathetic people', people made in his image. If I did not know any better, the saint aspires to Godhood!


What is wrong with empathetic people?

A god does not ask questions, so you cannot claim that I am aspiring to Godhood.
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