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Posted 1/16/13
It has come my understanding that no one actually wants to hear it. We close our eyes to it and pretend not to see it. I saw an article yesterday where it was said that there are actually people who doubt what happened in Newton. I went a bit off subject... But what I want to know are your thoughts on truth in general.
Posted 1/16/13
People prefer convenient lies to the truth that will disrupt how they live. Do you mean Newtown? the shooting?
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Well as long as people have had opinions this has happened, I mean look where religion got us to!
Lol joke, well, I don't know, I would like to know the truth at all times (almost) But people who are stupid enough to try to hide the truth behind something big, (Talking about those people who deny everythin Hitler did, moon landing etc. They can go to hell -.-)
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Posted 1/16/13
Just tell me the truth. I don't think I'll care much.
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New Town is a false flag event. The New Town, Sandy Hook and all the other shootings in the past are stage events created by the government to convince Americans that guns are bad and to convinced them to give up their 2nd Amendment. The reason why they want to take your guns away is because they want to massacre us. If we don't have guns, then the tyrannical government that we have will murder us. That is their intent.

I can always handle the truth. Remember people, the truth will set you free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lw3rGzvjvU
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Posted 1/16/13
Wow, that it is pretty colorful imagination you have. And that imagination born out of pointless and groundless fear will be the end of all of us.

Truth can be objective and subjective. It can be a truth that is true for everyone, or it can be truth as it is in the eye of the beholder. But people do profit from not letting us know the truth more than they do from everyone being informed so lies are everywhere. Just be smart about who you trust, why you trust them and always question their credibility. And doing research and being informed from reliable sources wouldn't hurt either.

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Posted 1/16/13 , edited 1/16/13
To be fair, truth can be rather inconvenient, especially so long as individuals attempt to incorporate some sense of conscience into their existence. Truth is, by its very nature, amoral, whereas most human societies teach (and to lesser degree actually practice) some form of morality. So, even though most of us are taught that lying is wrong, we are also taught to distrust and even avoid truth--being offered instead some sterilized and sterile dogma which is then called truth by those presenting it.

[Also, Blurr25 raises some good points above.]
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Wow, that it is pretty colorful imagination you have. And that imagination born out of pointless and groundless fear will be the end of all of us.

Truth can be objective and subjective. It can be a truth that is true for everyone, or it can be truth as it is in the eye of the beholder. But people do profit from not letting us know the truth more than they do from everyone being informed so lies are everywhere. Just be smart about who you trust, why you trust them and always question their credibility. And doing research and being informed from reliable sources wouldn't hurt either.



Who are you talking to? That is not my imagination. That is a result of a year long research of the Illuminati who have been ruling our planet for the last 26,000 thousand years. Alex Jones even showed some evidence in his video that what I said is true. Ah, fuck, I am so disappointed in you and humanity. Come on, man, do some research on what's really going on in the world.
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Posted 1/16/13
There are people that still believe the Holocaust was a farce. Truth is subject to interpretation and is often bludgeoned by misinformation and ignorance.
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Well if it's any consolation Vega, humanity is disappointed in you. Alex Jones is your source...Alex Jones. I'm sorry but I just laughed so hard that I almost puked. Alex Jones is an extreme right wing conspiracy theorist, who is also a ACTOR who host a radio show. He profits from your ignorance by feeding morons like you with crazy lies about how the government is out to get you because obviously, you and Mr. Jones didn't want Obama to win the election and since he did win "its the end of America as we know it", like it's been for anybody who wanted a certain political figure to win the election and they didn't. ALEX JONES IS A FUCKING NOBODY, HE IS A CON. 26,000 years, surely you're joking? The illuminati were founded not even 240 years ago you jackass. 26,000 years ago people were just figuring out how to make baskets and fishing nets.

Obviously you are a perfect example of the scared, uneducated, uniformed American. But since you are my fellow countrymen you are like a brother, no matter how different our beliefs. But don't attack my OUR government on grounds that are nowhere to be seen.
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I like you Blurr25. It's the truth.
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The truth is a very elusive thing, just when you think you know the truth what's true can change. My take on it is to choose what I think is the most likely truth through my own deductive powers but not believe anything too solidly as not to be too ignorant. If I had to choose between knowing a terrible truth and a lie I think I'd choose the lie, though when I was younger I would have always chosen to know the truth.

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Nobody can verify the truth so everything you believe in either takes faith or the acceptance of a lie.
Can you definitively prove god is out there hiding? Can you absolutely prove aliens exist? Can you demonstrate evolution?
The answer is no, not at this time, and not for a long time. But people can have faith, and faith does not belong solely to religion, in fact many so called people attend their religion not because of any faith but because that's what everyone there does. The same thing can be said of scientists. There are obviously people who are tired of not being given the truth.

If you believe something that is standing in front of you, it 's because you based it on the fact that it's standing right in front of you. But how many people have been fooled by misdirection, sleight of hand, camouflage, or yes, even conspiracy? Are you a top tier scientist? Are you a saint? Have you been kidnapped by aliens? Look at all the people who already claim these things, how many of them are in agreement.
Not every scientist supports evolution. How many people already feel they are 'locked into the matrix' being fed propaganda and some loving every bite.

When it comes to even smaller issues, like personal relationships, truth becomes even more mirage-like. Many are of the mindset that if if it looks too good to be true, than it must be, so they stop looking for the truth, because the lie is easier and more fun...except for when the truth finally comes out. Some seek out the truth and then flatly reject it because it didn't meet their expectations, often unrealistically high.

The one immutable thing about truth, is that it is true, and nothing can change what has already happened. So the choice has always been whether to reveal or conceal it. Except we have a battle that began before we were born. We've all been raised in deception, we can understand the words, but we can never know how much deception. When did it start? Grandparents? Thousands of years ago?

Disbelief in conspiracies is just a blind as total acceptance of every nutjob spindoctor's ideas.
We are trusting by nature, but society itself teaches us not to trust. That means whatever made us, be it god or random chemical reactions, gave us the ability to trust innately. Human babies are designed to be raised for a long time, no other animal is so useless for so long after being born, not chimps, not birds, only humans, despite our superior brains. So did we become trusting because of being forced to be raised like this, or were we set this way because we were going to bear children?

If you want truth you should first find the truth of why you want the truth. Is it so you can change? For control or power? To judge? To hate? To love? If you can't find that answer, how can you ever know truth when it's before you, but unreachable?
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Not many people like the truth. I for one however try not to let it elude me. I face it when it comes to myself and when it comes to the world. This unfortunately often comes with the claim that "I am a pessimist". Which, of course they can't seem to understand, is a pessimistic statement. Facing the truth allows you a key skill that only understanding the truth can bring you, and that is what to do about that truth. You can't figure out how to deal with something if you refuse to acknowledge it. But most people don't want to do anything I'm afraid.


Blurr25 wrote:

Well if it's any consolation Vega, humanity is disappointed in you. Alex Jones is your source...Alex Jones. I'm sorry but I just laughed so hard that I almost puked. Alex Jones is an extreme right wing conspiracy theorist, who is also a ACTOR who host a radio show. He profits from your ignorance by feeding morons like you with crazy lies about how the government is out to get you because obviously, you and Mr. Jones didn't want Obama to win the election and since he did win "its the end of America as we know it", like it's been for anybody who wanted a certain political figure to win the election and they didn't. ALEX JONES IS A FUCKING NOBODY, HE IS A CON. 26,000 years, surely you're joking? The illuminati were founded not even 240 years ago you jackass. 26,000 years ago people were just figuring out how to make baskets and fishing nets.

Obviously you are a perfect example of the scared, uneducated, uniformed American. But since you are my fellow countrymen you are like a brother, no matter how different our beliefs. But don't attack my OUR government on grounds that are nowhere to be seen.


I've gotten used to skipping over his comments. Well, for the most part. but you speak the truth. I doub't he would like to hear that though.



Please don't speak so vaguely about things such as truth. You can't give a demonstration of evolution? Well it's clear you haven't ACTUALLY read a scientific paper on Evolution. What do you want as proof? Pokemon? http://i.imgur.com/2RRv0.jpg How about that? Not good enough? Mutations are a part of evolution to you know.

No you can't disprove gods existance, but you also can't prove it. Speaking on a philosophical level about what real truth is, saying that our senses betray us is only a paper thin argument. That is what SCIENCE is for. To not trust out eyes, to not trust our nose, to not trust our sight. But to figure it out, study it and verify by every means possible of what is playing out before our eyes.

I'm not having a go at you, but that kind of thinking doesn't actually answer anything, nor does it allow questions. That kind of thinking is only a dead end.
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Posted 1/16/13
Thanks brother, I think I gave him something to think about for a while since he hasn't responded. I guess all we can hope is that he is actually THINKING.
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