Pissed about pricing and availability
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Posted 1/18/13
Heya
I subscribed for a year on crunchyroll because i like the idea and wanted to support the japanese studios. But i was wondering why there were hardly any new shows available despite a new season starting just recently. So i searched for a bit: It seems crunchyroll has picked up 30 new simulcasts for this season.
I live in Switzerland. Of those 30 series, 4! (four) are available in Switzerland. And i pay as much as people in the USA or anywhere else on the globe, i just get hardly 1/8th for the same money. And that makes me pretty pissed.

There are several shows i'd definitely watch (like Little Busters or Chihayafuru 2) and several others i'd like to take a look, but as things stand the only series that is simulcast here that interests me is Naruto.

I doubt i'll subscribe again, unless i find a workaround for this issue.
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I literally just read online about a completely unrelated issue that you could access other regions' content by browsing the internet through a proxy server that is based in that region!

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to set up a proxy server, or what the overall risks and benefits of doing so are. As far as I know, doing this could be illegal. I'm really not sure. Sorry. T-T
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Posted 1/18/13

Naryoril wrote:

Heya
I subscribed for a year on crunchyroll because i like the idea and wanted to support the japanese studios. But i was wondering why there were hardly any new shows available despite a new season starting just recently. So i searched for a bit: It seems crunchyroll has picked up 30 new simulcasts for this season.
I live in Switzerland. Of those 30 series, 4! (four) are available in Switzerland. And i pay as much as people in the USA or anywhere else on the globe, i just get hardly 1/8th for the same money. And that makes me pretty pissed.

There are several shows i'd definitely watch (like Little Busters or Chihayafuru 2) and several others i'd like to take a look, but as things stand the only series that is simulcast here that interests me is Naruto.

I doubt i'll subscribe again, unless i find a workaround for this issue.


If people from Switzerland paid less than those in the USA then you probably wouldn't even be able to watch those 4 shows this season. There obviously just aren't enough subscribers in Switzerland to support licensing a large number of shows, and that's not likely to change quickly any time soon. The best you can hope for is that more people from Switzerland subscribe over time. I would suggest you at least try those 4 shows before cancelling, although I don't know which 4 they are. You never know, you might find something worth the money, at least for a while.
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the 4 that are available are available worldwide, except Japan
that doesn't have anything to do with the number of subcribers in Switzerland

i just think they should adjust their pricing and lower the price for the countries which hardly have any shows available.
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Naryoril wrote:

the 4 that are available are available worldwide, except Japan
that doesn't have anything to do with the number of subcribers in Switzerland

i just think they should adjust their pricing and lower the price for the countries which hardly have any shows available.


Well in that case there really must be hardly any subscribers in Switzerland. My point was that is the reason there are so few shows available. There just aren't enough subscribers to get more than the worldwide shows.

The problem with being cheaper in countries with less shows available is that it would result in even less shows being available in those countries due to less money being available for licensing (except for the worldwide shows of course). The only countries a lower price would be good-ish for are those which only have access to the worldwide shows, like Switzerland. But then if they gave lower prices to those countries then more people would complain from other countries which don't get the lower price. There's not really any good solution, so it's unlikely to change. This isn't the first time people have suggested different prices for different countries, and nothing has been done about it as far as I know.
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Posted 1/18/13

Naryoril wrote:

the 4 that are available are available worldwide, except Japan
that doesn't have anything to do with the number of subcribers in Switzerland

i just think they should adjust their pricing and lower the price for the countries which hardly have any shows available.

Based on that same logic, the price for many countries (especially the U.S. and Canada) should have been increasing every year, since they have been getting more shows than the years of before.

The best solution for people in countries where the price seems too high is simply to not subscribe, and watch the ad supported streams instead.

The fact that you are only getting worldwide streams indicates either that most companies in Japan won't license for your region, or are carving it into chunks that make it economically nonviable.

Keep in mind Crunchyroll isn't the only media company to follow this model. Netflix, for example, charges roughly the same price in Canada, UK, and other markets, yet they have a much smaller libraries of titles in the United States.
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Posted 1/19/13 , edited 1/19/13

Naryoril wrote:

Heya
I subscribed for a year on crunchyroll because i like the idea and wanted to support the japanese studios. But i was wondering why there were hardly any new shows available despite a new season starting just recently. So i searched for a bit: It seems crunchyroll has picked up 30 new simulcasts for this season.
I live in Switzerland. Of those 30 series, 4! (four) are available in Switzerland. And i pay as much as people in the USA or anywhere else on the globe, i just get hardly 1/8th for the same money. And that makes me pretty pissed.

There are several shows i'd definitely watch (like Little Busters or Chihayafuru 2) and several others i'd like to take a look, but as things stand the only series that is simulcast here that interests me is Naruto.

I doubt i'll subscribe again, unless i find a workaround for this issue.


Well I've the same issue here where I live This winter adding really sucked for those who are only available to watch worldwide licences anime. 4 new titles only one of them full length. But it's predictable. Cr is focusing on regions where are many subscribers.
Personally I think that dividing Internet into the regions is stupid, but what can I do. At least CR doesn't say like Hulu "Get lost, you're not from US, your money stinks. "
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I'm guessing it would cost a ton more money to buy the license for worldwide streaming than for just the US. And Crunchy Roll just isn't big enough for that yet.

If you want to watch a certain anime that aren't on CR, just watch a fansub.

It kind of bothers me to that we can't watch all the animes avaible, because it would have been much easier to just go to "recently added" and look up any anime that looks interesting, than to google it. Find a decent sub, with decent quality. I love the fact that CR provides anime in HD.

BUT, i don't understand how you can bitch about the pricing. For just anime, it's $6.95/month, that's nothing. I'm 18, my only income is the Student grants i get for going to school. Wich needs to cover school stuff, clothes, shoes, gas, food and drinks etc.

If you want access to all the content, unsubscribing is not the correct way. Rather you should get a friend to subscribe, and get him to get his friend so subscribe, and so-on. This would result in CR getting bigger, getting more money. And they would be able to provide more anime worldwide.
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Posted 1/19/13

dacan13 wrote:

I'm guessing it would cost a ton more money to buy the license for worldwide streaming than for just the US. And Crunchy Roll just isn't big enough for that yet.

If you want to watch a certain anime that aren't on CR, just watch a fansub.

It kind of bothers me to that we can't watch all the animes avaible, because it would have been much easier to just go to "recently added" and look up any anime that looks interesting, than to google it. Find a decent sub, with decent quality. I love the fact that CR provides anime in HD.

BUT, i don't understand how you can bitch about the pricing. For just anime, it's $6.95/month, that's nothing. I'm 18, my only income is the Student grants i get for going to school. Wich needs to cover school stuff, clothes, shoes, gas, food and drinks etc.

If you want access to all the content, unsubscribing is not the correct way. Rather you should get a friend to subscribe, and get him to get his friend so subscribe, and so-on. This would result in CR getting bigger, getting more money. And they would be able to provide more anime worldwide.


He doesn't bitch about the pricing. It's felling like you get when you go to restaurant pay exactly the same as other and only difference is they get full meal and you get only glass of water.
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Posted 1/19/13 , edited 1/19/13
My problem isn't the cost by itself. My problem is that some hardly get 10% from what others get for the same money.

Yes, i will resort to fansubs, since i don't have another choice. But my reason for subscribing here is that i won't have to do that anymore, or at least much less, since it's a gray area. And because i wanted to support the creators (i guess they get money depending on how many people watch their series, but that won't work if the show isn't available).

As a side note: Every series i'm currently following is theoretically available on crunchyroll, but i only got access to a single one.

Edit: Jep, ziemiak got it. I'd happily pay 2 or 3 times as much if i had access to the full catalog.
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Posted 1/19/13

ziemiak wrote:


dacan13 wrote:

I'm guessing it would cost a ton more money to buy the license for worldwide streaming than for just the US. And Crunchy Roll just isn't big enough for that yet.

If you want to watch a certain anime that aren't on CR, just watch a fansub.

It kind of bothers me to that we can't watch all the animes avaible, because it would have been much easier to just go to "recently added" and look up any anime that looks interesting, than to google it. Find a decent sub, with decent quality. I love the fact that CR provides anime in HD.

BUT, i don't understand how you can bitch about the pricing. For just anime, it's $6.95/month, that's nothing. I'm 18, my only income is the Student grants i get for going to school. Wich needs to cover school stuff, clothes, shoes, gas, food and drinks etc.

If you want access to all the content, unsubscribing is not the correct way. Rather you should get a friend to subscribe, and get him to get his friend so subscribe, and so-on. This would result in CR getting bigger, getting more money. And they would be able to provide more anime worldwide.


He doesn't bitch about the pricing. It's felling like you get when you go to restaurant pay exactly the same as other and only difference is they get full meal and you get only glass of water.


Obviously i also know the feeling, i'm a paying member with the exact same acess to the anime material as tyou guys Yeah, that's pretty much as it is, but nothing much to do about it except watching fansubs. Or messing around with Proxy / VPN if you feel like it...


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Same here i can only watch like 14
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