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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide xCrimsonEX wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide TonyTheShredder wrote: xCrimsonEX wrote: Let me start with the fact that my age is none of your business and you'd do well to just leave it be. I have nothing against the vampires I have something against Kaname. Kaname once upon a time wanted peace between humans and vampires now he just wants to indulge his fantasies about what's good for Yuuki. Feelings change with experiences thus Yuuki doesn't love only Kaname, she loves both him and Zero get that through your head. Yuuki has a mental issue called obsession in regards to Kaname not 'true love'. You're still a bigot. You're still denying the fact that Yuuki loves Kaname unconditionally. No matter how many times Kaname killed the Vampire Council (led by Rido) and the head of the Hio clan (Shizuka have turned Zero [the vampire hunter] into a Level-D vampire), her love for resurrected Kuran remains the same. Kaname wanted peace between humans and vampires then... and he wants peace between humans and vampires now. Get the fuck over it, kid! You had me thinking you actually wanted to discuss this instead of spout you're biased b.s. until this "Get the fuck over it, kid!". I love Rima, Kain, Ruka, Shiki, and Maria and I'm still a bigot? Just keep your mouth shut and you may make more sense. Did I ever deny her love for Kaname? No, but I won't say its stronger than her love for Zero and I sure as h*ll won't say that Kaname is more deserving. No, his sole goal atm is to turn Yuuki back to being human which she never asked but he yet again arrogantly decided was good for her (which I agree with him on in this particular case but still should be her choice.). Who's the one raging at who? Who's the one breaking etiquette and sending harrassing pm's to others? Who's really a 'kid'? I'm allowed my opinion and my perspective so in actually you should get your head out of Kaname's rear and actually accept other's opinions rather than raging on them for it. Grow up. You grow up, whiner! |
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide TonyTheShredder wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide xCrimsonEX wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide TonyTheShredder wrote: xCrimsonEX wrote: Let me start with the fact that my age is none of your business and you'd do well to just leave it be. I have nothing against the vampires I have something against Kaname. Kaname once upon a time wanted peace between humans and vampires now he just wants to indulge his fantasies about what's good for Yuuki. Feelings change with experiences thus Yuuki doesn't love only Kaname, she loves both him and Zero get that through your head. Yuuki has a mental issue called obsession in regards to Kaname not 'true love'. You're still a bigot. You're still denying the fact that Yuuki loves Kaname unconditionally. No matter how many times Kaname killed the Vampire Council (led by Rido) and the head of the Hio clan (Shizuka have turned Zero [the vampire hunter] into a Level-D vampire), her love for resurrected Kuran remains the same. Kaname wanted peace between humans and vampires then... and he wants peace between humans and vampires now. Get the fuck over it, kid! You had me thinking you actually wanted to discuss this instead of spout you're biased b.s. until this "Get the fuck over it, kid!". I love Rima, Kain, Ruka, Shiki, and Maria and I'm still a bigot? Just keep your mouth shut and you may make more sense. Did I ever deny her love for Kaname? No, but I won't say its stronger than her love for Zero and I sure as h*ll won't say that Kaname is more deserving. No, his sole goal atm is to turn Yuuki back to being human which she never asked but he yet again arrogantly decided was good for her (which I agree with him on in this particular case but still should be her choice.). Who's the one raging at who? Who's the one breaking etiquette and sending harrassing pm's to others? Who's really a 'kid'? I'm allowed my opinion and my perspective so in actually you should get your head out of Kaname's rear and actually accept other's opinions rather than raging on them for it. Grow up. You grow up, whiner! And with this its confirmed since I was honestly trying to figure you for a troll or just a Kaname fan. With this I have my answer and I don't bother with trolls so good day. |
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I am so annoyed with Yuki, last time she is so in love with Zero now she is making out with Kaname? O.O Zero, you better find someone else! Please do not fall in love with that Yuki again. Zero deserves so much better! I hope Hino-sensei will just create some character who really deserves Zero not that annoying Yuki.
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Honestly I think the anime has become interesting with the desicions Yuuki has been making even though they are stupid and wreckless. Yuuki may have erased Zero's memories and then gone to Kaname But, Then Again this might prove to show that the ending of this anime might be very interesting also with so many dramas ging on between all three of them. To be honest I think that Yuuki Should stay with Kaname after how much she has hurt Zero,Zero deserves soo much better than Yuuki! Yuuki has made so many Stupid desicions ever since she became a vampire. The Anime may be very annoying with everything going on but, I still believe that It's kind of interesting and makes you want to deffinatly read the rest of the Manga ( How ever much there might be left of the manga to go) Because the ending might be VERY interesting as to what could happen... If this makes sence.?
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Jajamon_Momonja wrote: I am so annoyed with Yuki, last time she is so in love with Zero now she is making out with Kaname? O.O Zero, you better find someone else! Please do not fall in love with that Yuki again. Zero deserves so much better! I hope Hino-sensei will just create some character who really deserves Zero not that annoying Yuki. I really think this is just poor writing on Hino's part, she seems to love making Yuuki weak-willed and immature. As for Zero, I really wonder if its possible for him to move to another as sometimes the heart isn't so easy to shift so even though I truly truly wish he'd move on to someone else I don't know if its possible. There's actually 2 possible alternatives that could have been developed been again Hino decided not to build on either of them: 1) Yori the girl that has known Zero for only a little less time than Yuuki so has a history with him. 2) Maria the girl that sees what he does subtly to show his affections, that he has a good heart, and appreciates him. Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ImmaBurito wrote: Honestly I think the anime has become interesting with the decisions Yuuki has been making even though they are stupid and wreckless. Yuuki may have erased Zero's memories and then gone to Kaname But, then again this might prove to show that the ending of this anime might be very interesting also with so many dramas going on between all three of them. To be honest I think that Yuuki should stay with Kaname after how much she has hurt Zero,Zero deserves soo much better than Yuuki! Yuuki has made so many stupid decisions ever since she became a vampire. The anime may be very annoying with everything going on but, I still believe that it's kind of interesting and makes you want to definitely read the rest of the manga ( How ever much there might be left of the manga to go) Because the ending might be VERY interesting as to what could happen... If this makes sense.? I personally find Yuuki to have evolved -> devolved -> evolved through-out the story though I blame this on if she's being spoiled at the time or not. Because of how she's spoiled her actions, imo, are usually very short-sighted. Two examples I can give easily: 1) Erase Zero's memories of her so when she sacrifices herself he won't fall to Level E. This sounds good and romantic except that it reverts Zero back +5 chapters so that he's back to wanting to kill vampires thus damaging another potential pairing Zero could have had with Maria so Yuuki not only affected herself and Zero she also potentially influenced Maria. 2) Her plan to sacrifice herself to turn Kaname human. And then what is supposed to happen? He wanders around as a human and does what from that point? This leads to nothing (unless you're a Kaname x Zero fan then who knows )I think its anytime she's around Kaname that she starts becoming 'stupid' as she starts being spoiled, reverting back to her 5 year old self, and dependent on him rather than when she's with Zero or alone and has to actually grow up. And to be honest I'm having to push myself to continue reading because of her obsessiveness/fangirl-ism towards Kaname, easy forgiving, immaturity, and obliviousness toward Zero but I do plan to keep reading as I personally hope that Zero will regain his memories. Sorry for the mini-essay but just wanted to fully respond and I'm not really disagreeing with you so I hope it doesn't come across that way. |
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http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/90/2
This is the link to chapter 90 manga ( not sure if you have read it or not) But Yes all i really want is for Zero to get back his memories cause its 'kinda' boring when he doesnt have them because he doesnt remember anything really. Thats all i really want to happen and yes i agree Yuuki is stupid and spoilt around Kaname it makes you wonder if she actually acts her self around him at all. It makes me very glad to know that we have some things in common with the likings and dislikings of this anime but also good that we have our own opinions. |
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ImmaBurito wrote: http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/90/2 This is the link to chapter 90 manga ( not sure if you have read it or not) But Yes all i really want is for Zero to get back his memories cause its 'kinda' boring when he doesnt have them because he doesnt remember anything really. Thats all i really want to happen and yes i agree Yuuki is stupid and spoilt around Kaname it makes you wonder if she actually acts her self around him at all. It makes me very glad to know that we have some things in common with the likings and dislikings of this anime but also good that we have our own opinions. Many 'regaining memory' flags have been set so I'm 90% sure Zero will get his memories back, Kaito gets major bonus points in my liking him for pushing Zero to get them back (Kaname would too if he wasn't such a prick in how he did it and if he wasn't still sleeping with Yuuki while doing it). I really just want Zero to be happy even if that requires Yuuki after everything she's done so far. I'm not really sure if its an either/or type of thing tbh. I think when she's around Kaname she reverts back to her 5yr old pureblood self while when she's around Zero her older, more independent, human self comes out. In a sense both are parts of her just one irritates me to no end while the second likes to hide behind the first too much. Well I can keep my cool as long as no one insults Zero himself , Zero x Yuuki, or tries to raise Kaname x Yuuki to some kind of epitome of love type thing when its far far far from it imo (thus why I get annoyed). By far my favorite part of 90 is Shiki and Rima moving closer towards becoming official. |
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Yeah agreed. It really irritates me also I just wish yuuki would act the way she does around zero around kaname. And I also like the part how shiki and rima are moving much closer together. And I think your right about zero regaining his memories and kaito is doing the good thing and helping him too. But then again in chapter 90 apparently after yuuki talked to zero I'm pretty sure she tried to erase his memories of her again so she is absolutely not in his life but kaname stopped her that is what my friend said so I think kaname does also want yuuki to give zero back his memories not because he cares for zero but so he suffers because yuuki still means a lot to zero.
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ImmaBurito wrote: Yeah agreed. It really irritates me also I just wish yuuki would act the way she does around zero around kaname. And I also like the part how shiki and rima are moving much closer together. And I think your right about zero regaining his memories and kaito is doing the good thing and helping him too. But then again in chapter 90 apparently after yuuki talked to zero I'm pretty sure she tried to erase his memories of her again so she is absolutely not in his life but kaname stopped her that is what my friend said so I think kaname does also want yuuki to give zero back his memories not because he cares for zero but so he suffers because yuuki still means a lot to zero. Imo it goes to what I've been saying elsewhere. Yuuki idolizes/obsesses over Kaname, thus why she tends to collapse to being submissive around him. With Zero she's treated on equal ground and she feels comfortable with him as they've grown up with each other. She only erased Zero's memories 1 time in chapter 89 not in 90 so I dunno in that regard. I personally think Kaname's actions can have 2 interpretations: 1) he realizes that a part of Yuuki truly does love Zero and that she will never be happy as things are now or 2) he's accepted that he's going to sacrifice himself and is trying to leave Yuuki a protector that loves her enough to protect her. Ultimately I don't Yuuki will have a choice in whether Zero gets his memories back since he's just that strong of a character imo. |
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Yeah true.
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Might just be me but it kinda seems like Yuuki has started shifting more toward an 'obligation' type of attitude with Kaname. Like she feels obligated to be with him *shrugs* at least thats the feeling I got from 90 |
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Yeah, I actually think you might be right about that too.Its comea along strong that way.So no its not just you.
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ImmaBurito wrote: Yeah, I actually think you might be right about that too.Its comea along strong that way.So no its not just you. Good to know since I admittedly am biased but was trying to be neutral in that thought. The monthly wait is killing me |
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Monthly wait for the manga? If so then yeah i hate it too even though the anime is becoming overdone its still making me curious to know whats next.
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ImmaBurito wrote: Monthly wait for the manga? If so then yeah i hate it too even though the anime is becoming overdone its still making me curious to know whats next. Yeah the manga I haven't watched the anime since I've heard some things were altered in it but just what I've heard. Especially since its down to last 3 chapters and Hino has proven she's capable of trolling (ex: ch 89), so I'm having to restrain my inner Zeki from getting too into thinking its going to end on that note else get slammed again. |
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