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Monarchy, should we have a king?
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so after reading today's news about the queen of the Netherlands finally deciding on handing over the throne to her son, some questions came to mind.
we know that the monarchy lost its power for over 200 years already, even though they are still a powerful national symbol, they can't for example deploy the army at will.
but let's say for X reason the monarchs decided to take the power back, what do u think would it take to happen?[/b]
the people's support? support from the army? a crisis where no political figure is reliable?

the reason i posted this question here is because, like me, a lot of u guys may have seen tons of anime series where you have a clear monarchy or where u can recognize a single figure of power. For example :code geass, guilty crown (i just watched guilty crown xD) and they kind a gave me a view of how a modern society would look like reigned by 1 single person. also because i'm a strong believer that people would have more trust in a single figure and it would be more effective than to have countless politicians who never agree with each other and always blame each other for failures made by the government . not that i hate politics, i love politics and i get so lost in it sometimes.
anyhow, let me know ur thoughts and ideas i would love to have a discussion.....
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Monarchies are a terrible idea. For every smart, kind, and progressive king, there are 10 times the number of totalitarian, cruel, and greedy tyrants throughout history.

Think of a king's rule as...job performance. If someone was entitled to a job regardless of whether they are qualified, simply because they are blood-related to the previous job holder, more likely than not they won't care as much for their duties and probably won't be motivated to work hard at all. They know that it isn't an open competition, and that they have a monopoly on that position of power.

A system where a politician in charge of a certain duty, is elected by the people who would be influenced by the decisions of that political office, is much better. When someone knows that they are limited by term, and in order to remain in that office, they must perform at least somewhat competently or another person will take their place, they are much more likely to put forth actual effort.

At least the people who are in that political position WANT to be there. There have been kings throughout history who were only kings because it was their birth right, but had no interest in politics. They were interested in art, or history, or science, etc. so they just had a representative rule for them anyway.

Also, having one person with ultimate authority is unwise because they have to answer to no one. Whereas in a system there should be checks and balances, where one end can overrule the other. Also, when multiple people/parties/political entities all contribute to a decision, it represents more of the diverse views of the citizens, and also incorporates multiple points of view.
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No, throughout history class...
I've noticed that most kings fail at ruling.

But IF I was the king...I would be an awesome king.
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stgzlg wrote:

the reason i posted this question here is because, like me, a lot of u guys may have seen tons of anime series where you have a clear monarchy or where u can recognize a single figure of power. For example :code geass, guilty crown (i just watched guilty crown xD) and they kind a gave me a view of how a modern society would look like reigned by 1 single person. also because i'm a strong believer that people would have more trust in a single figure and it would be more effective than to have countless politicians who never agree with each other and always blame each other for failures made by the government . not that i hate politics, i love politics and i get so lost in it sometimes.
anyhow, let me know ur thoughts and ideas i would love to have a discussion.....


Are you seriously using fiction to defend the idea of a monarchy? It's a lot cooler there than it is in reality, let's be honest.
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"In the place of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen! Not dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morn! Treacherous as the Seas! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!"



I plan on ruling from the Space Needle in Seattle, where I can watch my subjects grovel before me. When this world is completely mine, we will conquer space.
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MountainMew wrote:


stgzlg wrote:

the reason i posted this question here is because, like me, a lot of u guys may have seen tons of anime series where you have a clear monarchy or where u can recognize a single figure of power. For example :code geass, guilty crown (i just watched guilty crown xD) and they kind a gave me a view of how a modern society would look like reigned by 1 single person. also because i'm a strong believer that people would have more trust in a single figure and it would be more effective than to have countless politicians who never agree with each other and always blame each other for failures made by the government . not that i hate politics, i love politics and i get so lost in it sometimes.
anyhow, let me know ur thoughts and ideas i would love to have a discussion.....


Are you seriously using fiction to defend the idea of a monarchy? It's a lot cooler there than it is in reality, let's be honest.


i'm not using fiction to defend it..... it was just like looking at monarchy from a fantasy point of view, oh and btw, i dont remember king charles vi brtitania being a good king ( the guy from code geass). also, i had to find something in this topic that related to manga/ anime cuz i dint want to post this is other clumsy and boring forum.
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King, no.
Dictator, yes... but only if it was me.
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Contrary to all other posters here, I agree we should adopt a Monarchy.

It is clear that democracy is a failure, and the reason has been noted by almost all political theorist, including the founders of this republic, who, seeing that the uneducated mass, know, instinctively, not to give them any power.

The monarch, being almost completely divorced from the hoi polloi, would be the ideal ruler of any state, which explains the longevity of Monarchies, and its abundance.

That Monarchies come natural to man can be clearly shown by the fact that every civilisation, no matter how seperate they are, have adopted, in part, a form of monarchy, from Persia to Greece to China, where democracy is a taste unnaturally planted onto the soul.
Posted 1/28/13
Monarchy leads to anarchy.
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lorddisick wrote:

Monarchy leads to anarchy.


when people recognize a king, they accept him as their sole leader and follow him blindly, not exactly anarchy until the king gets corrupt.... and i think there are plenty of ways to avoid that.on top of that, people do have a better education now than they had 200 years ago.

it would be interesting too see what kind a social model people could develop in the present where there would be only 1 leader taking the decisions..
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No matter what.
Someone will not like the rule.
Someone will fight.
Someone will resist.
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An elective monarchy.
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No. I doubt they'd have any power in anything anyway. Where I'm from at least.
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The best form of government on the Earth is an enlightened dictator. Someone who sees what the people need most and enacts it.

The problem is there's about 1 enlightened dictator for every 10,000 jerks making dictatorship an impractical form of government. The only dictatorships I can think of that aren't horrible would be Tonga and Saudi Arabia.

The next best would be a republic where people vote for representatives who enact laws, what the US has is a republic, not a democracy and for all its faults it's a better government than others. Democracy is basically mob rule and just about the worst government you can have unless it's for small communities of say, 500 people or less.

Next I would say a constitutional monarchy, something like what they have in Briatain, Norway, and Monaco, where the king is limited in what he can do by a constitution.
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It Depends, if you can have a King that is perfect, then dividing his rule would be a detriment to all humanity. However, since we are ruled by men, rendering them responsible to the public at least ensures that their mistakes are as harmless as possible.
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