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Monarchy, should we have a king?
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I like the idea of having a King, as long as that king is not polluted by a bunch of greedy savages.
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I Just Wasted A Few Seconds Of Your Lives. xD
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide "There is a myth that goes around in democracies, that people are all created equal in every respect, that blood, genes, and biology has nothing to do with their particular characteristics" most people who think genetics is the deciding factor on how a individual will act believe in eugenics. If you want to believe in the same people who experimented on Jews in WWII..its a free country(unlike what you want). I don't know what school you went to but I was taught that were all different but regardless we can achieve the same success or more. I'm sure you stuck on your own opinions I feel no need to change them. I just don't want the filth you wrote to spread to young minds, we don't need to go back to the 1300s. That is where you are wrong, and you do not hide the fact that you refuse to look at it objectively, because of your democratic Egalitarianism. First, it is clear that we are all different, some people are stronger than others, some are weaker, some are more intelligent, some less, and that this is determined, in part, by our genes. This is basic biology, basic genetics, it is basic science and common sense, and even the Greeks, who have lived before our age of levity and science, have wisely observed that people had innate characters. If we are to go back to the whole 'nature v. nuture', it is clear that we are all predisposed to different thing by nature, and that affects the reception of what we observe and learn from the world. For example, say that I was born a sickly child, but with a larger than average brain, in proportion to my body. That said, I have two predeposition, to greater intelligence, but to a weaker body. Thus, if I am reared on both book and exercise, it is clear that I would be more receptive to books than to sports. Having such impediment, I do not have the ability to achieve the same success as one born with a stronger constitution in the area of fitness, might, and strenght. I would probably not distinguish myself as much as he would if we applied ourselves to fighting, wieght-lifting, boxing, or any thing of that sort. Likewise, if an person whose intellect is retarded by certain afflictation from birth, he would not be as distinguished as I am in areas where intelligence is concern. This myth of equality of oppertunity despite inequality of condition is obvious humbug, and goes hand in hand with the ol' Horatio Algers myth to perpetuate the myth of egalitarianism and the fairness of the world, and would, I may, actually lead to hatred of those who are unable to advance further than they have because 'they aren't putting enough effort', 'they are obviously poor because they didn't work hard enough, having equal oppurtunity as I, M. Joseph Prudhomme'. But, regardless, you do not argue against the validity of that statement, but against the implication- You argue this line of thinking somehow leads back to Eugenics (and you get your dates wrong, the Eugenics Movement started in the late nineteenth century and ended in the earlier part of the twentieth), and this is patently false, as such ideas do not lead to that. In fact, such ideas promote more tolerance for the morons and cretins of the world. To give an example, there is talk now of a 'Gay gene', a gene that makes one more predisposed towards homosexuality, this is not used by the anti-Gay movement to promote screening out of the Gays (remember, it is only a predisposition towards homosexual attraction), rather, they deny it altogether, despite the science, because they are unable to put the blame of homosexuality upon the homosexual. We cannot blame someone for something they have no control over, and we have no right to punish them, in any way, for the way they are born, it is unfair, it is, however, fair to punish choice, I choose to steal the apple, therefore I am deserving of punishment, I choose to break the law, therefore I am criminal and should be tried by a jury. Well this debate can go on for sometime. Lets agree to disagree. Atleast we all can agree on one thing; that anime is awesome! |
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Becoming a slice of life addict
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infamybrian wrote: Well this debate can go on for sometime. Lets agree to disagree. Atleast we all can agree on one thing; that anime is awesome! You shouldn't assume that he has any idea what anime even is. |
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FOR EMPATHY!!!
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If you compare monarchy and democracy you have in a democracy at least the illusion of influence or power of the people.
In most western countries you can vote every some years to decide who for the next legislation will decided without the consent of the population whats going to happen. I call that system parliamentary dictatorship. So it depends on you. Do you want the illusion of influence? Go for democracy. Otherwise monarchy. |
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Searching a demoness from hell or goddess from heaven...
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Winterfells wrote: Monarchies are a terrible idea. For every smart, kind, and progressive king, there are 10 times the number of totalitarian, cruel, and greedy tyrants throughout history. Think of a king's rule as...job performance. If someone was entitled to a job regardless of whether they are qualified, simply because they are blood-related to the previous job holder, more likely than not they won't care as much for their duties and probably won't be motivated to work hard at all. They know that it isn't an open competition, and that they have a monopoly on that position of power. A system where a politician in charge of a certain duty, is elected by the people who would be influenced by the decisions of that political office, is much better. When someone knows that they are limited by term, and in order to remain in that office, they must perform at least somewhat competently or another person will take their place, they are much more likely to put forth actual effort. At least the people who are in that political position WANT to be there. There have been kings throughout history who were only kings because it was their birth right, but had no interest in politics. They were interested in art, or history, or science, etc. so they just had a representative rule for them anyway. Also, having one person with ultimate authority is unwise because they have to answer to no one. Whereas in a system there should be checks and balances, where one end can overrule the other. Also, when multiple people/parties/political entities all contribute to a decision, it represents more of the diverse views of the citizens, and also incorporates multiple points of view. This guy understands |
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No king, no queen.
Monarchy has no place in a democracy, If a lot of the taxes already go to the lazy ass politicians that we atleast get to elect to do something else then we elected them to do, then why should it also go to someone that doesn´t have to do anything? The king of sweden might be the best example here, more or less looks down on the common people while at the same time being the biggest wellfare taker in the country, from time to time he goes to some random country and say something retarded... like the time he praised how open a DICTATORSHIP was. |
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It brings tourism!
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Searching a demoness from hell or goddess from heaven...
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I suppose both!
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If you continue this you have to think about the follwing as well: Is a king better than a queen? Or a young monarch better than an old? |
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Searching a demoness from hell or goddess from heaven...
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longfenglim wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide infamybrian wrote: First its important to understand that a governments purpose is to exercise control over the people. Most governments incorporate a representative democracy(or so people are taught to think). Of course fortunately where all different and have several theory's on how the world should work. This is why there are always conflicts involving policy change. one candidate or even a million candidates controlling a government couldn't possibly please everyone. Things aren't that black and white. Regardless of his expertise someone will always be on the opposing side of your ideal belief, Therefor a Monarchy government or authoritarian government would not be advised because no group of people; not even "professional statesmen" you love so much could please the nation without policies that enforce indoctrination and brainwashing(Ex. North Korea). In the world of Longfenglim this is a more effective government guys. The point, is that they are so seperate from the people, they no longer have need to 'please the nation', but that, by their own expertise, are allowed to work for the better of the nation. This aloofness is precisely the strenght of a monarchy, that we should be ruled be someone beyond us is best, because it allows the sage rulers to govern unbeholden to Doxa, common opinion and prejudices. You seem to thing that because a monarch/emperor isn't reliant on the public to re-elect them into officer that this means that they don't have incentives that are in conflict with doing what is best for the nation. This would be incorrect. There are many things that drive a monarch/emperor just as there are things that drive any human. There have been those that didn't care at all about ruling and lived lives of decadence, while their people suffered. There have those that were so egotistical that they felt the need to leave their mark on the world, whether through war or monuments, and gave little care to the people. There have been those that became fearful of others usurping the throne and/or paranoid of those around them, and committed brutal and vile acts because of it. lordseth23 wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ZhugeLiang0 wrote: lordseth23 wrote: Why can't we educate the cretins, idiots, and madmen? If it weren't for your upbringing and life circumstances, you wouldn't be any different from them, so why don't you believe that they can be just as intelligent as you? Once proper education is instilled upon the masses, there won't be any significant differences between any form of government that we choose to live under. And lordseth23, the idea seems like a good cause to have "proper" education, but the question I ask you then is, who pays for the education? At what cost will this education be to the taxpayers? How many teachers will be needed to properly educate everyone? And how much do you pay the teachers? You can have a good cause to go on, but you need to be able to make it economically feasible before considering to do it, or else you make the economy worse off, even though your initial intentions were good. I agree that my ideas may be too broad for a global society that is living on resources that are far too limited, but there is no reason not to believe that humanity will soon enough be living in a world of abundant resources through the incredible power of collaboration and technology. We should pursue this form of global education once the ideal conditions are met. Let us pray that never happens. Global "education" under lordseth23's watch would be horrifying, indeed. Especially when you discover that regardless the "conditions" that someone is brought up in, different people will respond in different ways. It doesn't matter how "ideal" the conditions are, there will still be cretins, idiots, and madmen. This isn't solely because of genetics as longfenglim would likely posit, but because of various ways people would choose to respond to your education. Some might respond amiably, some might be resentful, and some might be bored and not pay attention. What would be done to those who don't lap up the "education" like the dogs you expect. |
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Banned
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Don't worry people we will reach Heaven in a few months, but as long as you choose to create Heaven on Earth. I applaud you, lordseth23 for holding steadfast in your positives beliefs. Positivity/Love will show the way. Don't let the cretins like Lim get to you. He is just a small fearful man.
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I can already control reality with my mind, banning me is pointless.
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Over here in America we barely are able to listen to our teachers, how are we gonna listen to some king. Actually even I wouldn't listen to them no matter what punishment they tried to give me.
That's probably one of the lessons I learned being born and raised in America. I hate people ordering me around (except a boss for a job, or a leader in some kind of group for a project). I don't mind small leaders like a boss for a job, but big leaders like a king not in this lifetime for me. |
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Ordering My New Parts For A New Computer 2morrow. HYPED!
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