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Post Reply Monarchy, should we have a king?
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Urboistar wrote:

Can i be king?


Ask the church.
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We need only one King.

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karmacide wrote:


Urboistar wrote:

Can i be king?


Ask the church.


If i blow up the church then can i be king?

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Urboistar wrote:


karmacide wrote:


Urboistar wrote:

Can i be king?


Ask the church.


If i blow up the church then can i be king?



Couldn't hurt.
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1mirg wrote:

"in the hands of an individual in some sort of fashion"

Even if there are several individuals which have a say. A individual still have their hands in the ruling or power of the government. Is what this ment


What the - then you might as well just have said that people run governments and it wouldn't have been any less obvious lol.

I'm sorry if that's coming off as mean, but you're trying to defend a careless statement you made, and it just makes it worse.

You could literally say "in the hands of an individual in some sort of fashion" about any human activity and it would be true.
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Alright, youve been a great help i will not slaughter you with my power. xD

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Pomff wrote:

We need only one King.



Ah...such great movies. I have no idea whether I should be happy or sad about Evil Dead 2013.
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I'm sorry if that's coming off as mean, but you're trying to defend a careless statement you made.


The statement wasn't careless, if you knew me offline. You would know this
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

Ah...such great movies. I have no idea whether I should be happy or sad about Evil Dead 2013.


I try not to get down on a movie just because its a remake, but I can't imagine any of those movies working without Bruce Campbell. He carries those films through sheer force of personality.
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Pomff wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

Ah...such great movies. I have no idea whether I should be happy or sad about Evil Dead 2013.


I try not to get down on a movie just because its a remake, but I can't imagine any of those movies working without Bruce Campbell. He carries those films through sheer force of personality.


Agreed. At least he is producing it so his presence will still be there in some form though.
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No!!!
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The average age of the world's great civilizations is only 200 years. They've all gone through the following cycle: From bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency right back to bondage. There are a lot of voters who vote just to fatten their own pocketbooks. All those K Street lobbyists, all those businessmen voting for whoever gives them the biggest government contract, all those millions of Americans voting based only on which candidate will funnel the most taxpayer dollars their way?

You want proof of democracies turning to dictatorships? Go look at Russia with that power-hunger fuck Putin. They go from a monarchy to a Communist dictatorship to a democracy that's now turning into a dictatorship. We're getting the same way with Congress passing unjust laws.
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longfenglim wrote:

First, you are quite mistaken in the purpose of the taxpayer's money- it is not for personal spending- taxes only amount to a portion of your income, the rest of which you are at liberty to spend. You, however, give money to the government for the purposes of the government, thus, putting the money either in the hands of demagogues chosen based on what Master Kung called 'glib speech'. Your objection is only applicable under the circumstances where all money is given to the monarch, and thus, is irrelevant.

That the king and his minister (that is to say, the court) is, in fact, separated from the people, is a necessity and a good thing, because the people are, unfortunately, as Master Hsün noted, born 'wayward', and most stay in this state for the most of their lives. The hoi polloi was, unfortunately, ignorant and easily led astray by the demagogues and their own stupidity, and so, it is a necessity that we should separate the common man from politics. Thus, benighted in ignorance, they can only be lead by those who have seen the light, those that are better and more educated than the mass. For as much as the ministers and the king are trained for the job of governance- that is, to rule- we are assured that we have men of higher quality than those who are elected based upon empty promises to their electorate, and, having separated themselves from public opinion, they can thus lead the nation based upon their expertise. Thus, we have a choice, between letting the ignorant choose more ignorant people, or letting people who are qualified for the job take it.

You speak frequently of the economy, yet this is precisely how a Company is run- whether a family business where the patriarch is practically king of his business, aided by men who are promoted based upon merit and education, to the corporation, where the CEO and his men are practically a court within the business, driving and steering it.


I think you missed the point I was trying to make with taxes. I know what taxes are, what I was trying to get at is, I believe people spending their money is more useful or not as wasteful than money spent through taxes.

Unlike a business where the CEO is still accountable for his actions, a monarch, has no accountability. If the monarch does a bad job, who will vote to replace the monarch or have the power to replace the monarch? The monarch could do as bad of a job as he wanted, as long as he didn't cause the people to revolt. If he did just a good enough job, he has the power to rule. If the CEO does a bad job with his business, the business goes down, he can get fired, he doesn't make as much money. The CEO's main incentive to do a great job is to get more money (I would think at least...) What's the monarch's main incentive to do a great job? Money? The monarch can take money whenever he wants, so money isn't a great incentive, unless the country is very poor.

And I still wonder how these kings and ministers see the "light" in your point of view. Do they study every subject out there? Do the ministers specialize in a certain subject area? How would you guard against a "common man" from being able to get a position as a minister or monarch? How would you deem which education is the best one? The idea of leaders being more educated is appealing and more than likely better, but that doesn't mean they'll have the ability to manage a society in the right way. They're prone to make mistakes like regular humans.

I am curious too, are there any good examples of monarchs in history that you particularly like?

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Posted 1/30/13
I can imagine how that will work for the U.S. in this day and age or any other place.
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We already have a King and that is Obama.
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