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I'm in college, so I see attractive girls all the time and it is depressing. Ignoring wouldn't work in my case because I am butt-ugly, but if girls find you attractive, then this is probably the best way to go since you aren't labeled a pervert. I'm sure you can develop a relationship once you find a girl that likes you enough.
Come on bro on a scale of 1 to Gary Busey how bad can you be? lol
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It may not be 0%, but I can reasonably conclude that it is somewhere in the 0.01-0.05% range. There is a very good chance I will never capture the attention of a woman in my lifetime.
Your putting yourself way down man, if you keep it up with that depressing way of looking at things your chances might as well be in the 0.01-0.05% range. Be more confident in yourself. You think you your ugly? Try thinking your at least average. You can't capture the attention of a woman? Why don't you try letting the woman know you exist by saying hi and be yourself. Again, be more confident dude
I would rather not bother women with trying to present my existence to them, they have more important things to do.
Putting yourself down like that is unattractive. :L
How is giving women their own personal space unattractive?
Bro, one thing i do notice that girls like is a confident man. That actually speaks louder than looks. Yeah being attractive might "help" but in the long run being able to take a woman through lifes rough times with confidence is pretty powerful. Actually, anime is a perfect example of that haha. Even an "attarctive" asshole/deuch bag/coward will get dumped for a stronger man.
Anyways, this is my opinion and I'd like a female perspective of what I just said for more clarity.
I think I am confident, but I don't want to ask a girl out just because I am confident. I want to know if she actually wants to spend time with me before I talk to her.
You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
-high-five- exactly my point
I don't typically...ok well I don't ever do it but you are nice so I suppose I will make an exception. -high-five- 
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You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I feel it's a requirement for guys to approach women first :D
So you would reject a girl who came up to you?
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You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I feel it's a requirement for guys to approach women first :D
Rofl e-approach me so that I could say HI to you! XD
It's annoying the male bears that burden, girls expect us all to be alpha males. How about being the Alpha female for once haha. I guess i'd approach a woman by reading her body language, if she's not doing anything to capture my attention I probably won't budge.
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lordseth23 wrote:
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Love is pointless to worry about. She'll come when she comes.
True.
lordseth23 wrote:
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lordseth23 wrote:
I'm in college, so I see attractive girls all the time and it is depressing. Ignoring wouldn't work in my case because I am butt-ugly, but if girls find you attractive, then this is probably the best way to go since you aren't labeled a pervert. I'm sure you can develop a relationship once you find a girl that likes you enough.
Attraction isn't just in looks. It's also in the way you carry yourself as a person. All you have to do is be yourself, and stand out from everyone else without being so predictable. Don't expect the girl you do get to be all "hawt" looking. Appreciate who she is and not so what she looks like physically.
This is what helped me FINALLY get a woman in my life. Look my girlfriend isn't gonna win points in the looks department...well her cute face might, but still it's about who she is as a person. She saw this in me too.
I am an introvert that probably has social anxiety, so it isn't like I am saving myself for a beautiful girl. There is very little chance that any girl will notice me, not just the good-looking ones. Just because I act like myself doesn't mean a girl will ever find me attractive.
How do you look like anyway, man?
I look like a monster. I have a link to facebook on my profile, you can see my pics there.
I saw the pic of you. You're not ugly. You just need to blast some acne and you'd be an average looking guy who can get laid with average to good looking chicks if you feign confidence. Also, growing your hair out a bit might help.
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Bashment wrote:
You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I feel it's a requirement for guys to approach women first :D
Then I guess I will never get a girl then, I suck at approaching people
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So you would reject a girl who came up to you?
nope
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Bashment wrote:
You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I feel it's a requirement for guys to approach women first :D
Then I guess I will never get a girl then, I suck at approaching people
never say never.
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So you would reject a girl who came up to you?
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Then it isn't really a requirement is it?
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lordseth23 wrote:
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lordseth23 wrote:
darkness815 wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
It may not be 0%, but I can reasonably conclude that it is somewhere in the 0.01-0.05% range. There is a very good chance I will never capture the attention of a woman in my lifetime.
Your putting yourself way down man, if you keep it up with that depressing way of looking at things your chances might as well be in the 0.01-0.05% range. Be more confident in yourself. You think you your ugly? Try thinking your at least average. You can't capture the attention of a woman? Why don't you try letting the woman know you exist by saying hi and be yourself. Again, be more confident dude
I would rather not bother women with trying to present my existence to them, they have more important things to do.
Putting yourself down like that is unattractive. :L
How is giving women their own personal space unattractive?
Bro, one thing i do notice that girls like is a confident man. That actually speaks louder than looks. Yeah being attractive might "help" but in the long run being able to take a woman through lifes rough times with confidence is pretty powerful. Actually, anime is a perfect example of that haha. Even an "attarctive" asshole/deuch bag/coward will get dumped for a stronger man.
Anyways, this is my opinion and I'd like a female perspective of what I just said for more clarity.
I think I am confident, but I don't want to ask a girl out just because I am confident. I want to know if she actually wants to spend time with me before I talk to her.
You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I don't know how to "just go for it", and I really don't want to if it means that I am going to waste somebody's time.
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lordseth23 wrote:
Denmi-Sama wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
darkness815 wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
It may not be 0%, but I can reasonably conclude that it is somewhere in the 0.01-0.05% range. There is a very good chance I will never capture the attention of a woman in my lifetime.
Your putting yourself way down man, if you keep it up with that depressing way of looking at things your chances might as well be in the 0.01-0.05% range. Be more confident in yourself. You think you your ugly? Try thinking your at least average. You can't capture the attention of a woman? Why don't you try letting the woman know you exist by saying hi and be yourself. Again, be more confident dude
I would rather not bother women with trying to present my existence to them, they have more important things to do.
Putting yourself down like that is unattractive. :L
How is giving women their own personal space unattractive?
Being so negative about yourself has nothing to do respecting personal space. That's two completely different topics. :L
Just saying, give yourself a chance and let the girl decide if you're "invading" her personal space or not.
Otherwise, you're just gonna be ignored by default. :(
If I do that, then I can't just give her the time that she lost by talking to me, that is impossible. I would rather not talk to her at all and let her choose how she wants to spend her time, and not force her to deal with me.
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lordseth23 wrote:
-Vega- wrote:
romanmink wrote:
Love is pointless to worry about. She'll come when she comes.
True.
lordseth23 wrote:
squirrel3d wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
I'm in college, so I see attractive girls all the time and it is depressing. Ignoring wouldn't work in my case because I am butt-ugly, but if girls find you attractive, then this is probably the best way to go since you aren't labeled a pervert. I'm sure you can develop a relationship once you find a girl that likes you enough.
Attraction isn't just in looks. It's also in the way you carry yourself as a person. All you have to do is be yourself, and stand out from everyone else without being so predictable. Don't expect the girl you do get to be all "hawt" looking. Appreciate who she is and not so what she looks like physically.
This is what helped me FINALLY get a woman in my life. Look my girlfriend isn't gonna win points in the looks department...well her cute face might, but still it's about who she is as a person. She saw this in me too.
I am an introvert that probably has social anxiety, so it isn't like I am saving myself for a beautiful girl. There is very little chance that any girl will notice me, not just the good-looking ones. Just because I act like myself doesn't mean a girl will ever find me attractive.
How do you look like anyway, man?
I look like a monster. I have a link to facebook on my profile, you can see my pics there.
I saw the pic of you. You're not ugly. You just need to blast some acne and you'd be an average looking guy who can get laid with average to good looking chicks if you feign confidence. Also, growing your hair out a bit might help.
At a time when I didn't have acne, I was frequently isolated and ridiculed for my eyes and facial features, so there is no point in trying to remove acne if you are ugly to begin with. My hair is much longer now, but I do get buzzcuts because I just don't care how I look. Girls never wanted me to begin with, so why should I have to lessen my ugliness just to try to impress them? They will probably still think I am ugly, so there is no point in trying to improve my looks.
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide lordseth23 wrote:
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XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
Denmi-Sama wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
darkness815 wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
It may not be 0%, but I can reasonably conclude that it is somewhere in the 0.01-0.05% range. There is a very good chance I will never capture the attention of a woman in my lifetime.
Your putting yourself way down man, if you keep it up with that depressing way of looking at things your chances might as well be in the 0.01-0.05% range. Be more confident in yourself. You think you your ugly? Try thinking your at least average. You can't capture the attention of a woman? Why don't you try letting the woman know you exist by saying hi and be yourself. Again, be more confident dude
I would rather not bother women with trying to present my existence to them, they have more important things to do.
Putting yourself down like that is unattractive. :L
How is giving women their own personal space unattractive?
Bro, one thing i do notice that girls like is a confident man. That actually speaks louder than looks. Yeah being attractive might "help" but in the long run being able to take a woman through lifes rough times with confidence is pretty powerful. Actually, anime is a perfect example of that haha. Even an "attarctive" asshole/deuch bag/coward will get dumped for a stronger man.
Anyways, this is my opinion and I'd like a female perspective of what I just said for more clarity.
I think I am confident, but I don't want to ask a girl out just because I am confident. I want to know if she actually wants to spend time with me before I talk to her.
You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I don't know how to "just go for it", and I really don't want to if it means that I am going to waste somebody's time.
Denmi-Sama wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
Denmi-Sama wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
darkness815 wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
It may not be 0%, but I can reasonably conclude that it is somewhere in the 0.01-0.05% range. There is a very good chance I will never capture the attention of a woman in my lifetime.
Your putting yourself way down man, if you keep it up with that depressing way of looking at things your chances might as well be in the 0.01-0.05% range. Be more confident in yourself. You think you your ugly? Try thinking your at least average. You can't capture the attention of a woman? Why don't you try letting the woman know you exist by saying hi and be yourself. Again, be more confident dude
I would rather not bother women with trying to present my existence to them, they have more important things to do.
Putting yourself down like that is unattractive. :L
How is giving women their own personal space unattractive?
Being so negative about yourself has nothing to do respecting personal space. That's two completely different topics. :L
Just saying, give yourself a chance and let the girl decide if you're "invading" her personal space or not.
Otherwise, you're just gonna be ignored by default. :(
If I do that, then I can't just give her the time that she lost by talking to me, that is impossible. I would rather not talk to her at all and let her choose how she wants to spend her time, and not force her to deal with me.
Whatever man it's your life. If you want to convince yourself that what you are saying is true then so be it. It seems you have spent a long time telling yourself all of that nonsense so I won't bother trying to undo all that work you put in.
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lordseth23 wrote:
netdisorder wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
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romanmink wrote:
Love is pointless to worry about. She'll come when she comes.
True.
lordseth23 wrote:
squirrel3d wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
I'm in college, so I see attractive girls all the time and it is depressing. Ignoring wouldn't work in my case because I am butt-ugly, but if girls find you attractive, then this is probably the best way to go since you aren't labeled a pervert. I'm sure you can develop a relationship once you find a girl that likes you enough.
Attraction isn't just in looks. It's also in the way you carry yourself as a person. All you have to do is be yourself, and stand out from everyone else without being so predictable. Don't expect the girl you do get to be all "hawt" looking. Appreciate who she is and not so what she looks like physically.
This is what helped me FINALLY get a woman in my life. Look my girlfriend isn't gonna win points in the looks department...well her cute face might, but still it's about who she is as a person. She saw this in me too.
I am an introvert that probably has social anxiety, so it isn't like I am saving myself for a beautiful girl. There is very little chance that any girl will notice me, not just the good-looking ones. Just because I act like myself doesn't mean a girl will ever find me attractive.
How do you look like anyway, man?
I look like a monster. I have a link to facebook on my profile, you can see my pics there.
I saw the pic of you. You're not ugly. You just need to blast some acne and you'd be an average looking guy who can get laid with average to good looking chicks if you feign confidence. Also, growing your hair out a bit might help.
At a time when I didn't have acne, I was frequently isolated and ridiculed for my eyes and facial features, so there is no point in trying to remove acne if you are ugly to begin with. My hair is much longer now, but I do get buzzcuts because I just don't care how I look. Girls never wanted me to begin with, so why should I have to lessen my ugliness just to try to impress them? They will probably still think I am ugly, so there is no point in trying to improve my looks.
I don't mean to intrude in this ongoing discussion, but...it's a little upsetting that you assume that all "girls" will judge your appeal based solely on your physical features. Judging by your word choices (such as your repeated use of "them/they") when referring to "girls", it can be inferred that you think ALL "girls" are only interested in the superficial! It may be true in the case of the "girls" you've been around, but if you get out of the habit of instantly separating yourself in the way that you do from "girls", or assuming that they'll behave in a negative fashion, you'll more than likely meet a cool gal who doesn't care about looks or some such nonsense like that.
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Okami-Amaterasu wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
netdisorder wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
-Vega- wrote:
romanmink wrote:
Love is pointless to worry about. She'll come when she comes.
True.
lordseth23 wrote:
squirrel3d wrote:
lordseth23 wrote:
I'm in college, so I see attractive girls all the time and it is depressing. Ignoring wouldn't work in my case because I am butt-ugly, but if girls find you attractive, then this is probably the best way to go since you aren't labeled a pervert. I'm sure you can develop a relationship once you find a girl that likes you enough.
Attraction isn't just in looks. It's also in the way you carry yourself as a person. All you have to do is be yourself, and stand out from everyone else without being so predictable. Don't expect the girl you do get to be all "hawt" looking. Appreciate who she is and not so what she looks like physically.
This is what helped me FINALLY get a woman in my life. Look my girlfriend isn't gonna win points in the looks department...well her cute face might, but still it's about who she is as a person. She saw this in me too.
I am an introvert that probably has social anxiety, so it isn't like I am saving myself for a beautiful girl. There is very little chance that any girl will notice me, not just the good-looking ones. Just because I act like myself doesn't mean a girl will ever find me attractive.
How do you look like anyway, man?
I look like a monster. I have a link to facebook on my profile, you can see my pics there.
I saw the pic of you. You're not ugly. You just need to blast some acne and you'd be an average looking guy who can get laid with average to good looking chicks if you feign confidence. Also, growing your hair out a bit might help.
At a time when I didn't have acne, I was frequently isolated and ridiculed for my eyes and facial features, so there is no point in trying to remove acne if you are ugly to begin with. My hair is much longer now, but I do get buzzcuts because I just don't care how I look. Girls never wanted me to begin with, so why should I have to lessen my ugliness just to try to impress them? They will probably still think I am ugly, so there is no point in trying to improve my looks.
I don't mean to intrude in this ongoing discussion, but...it's a little upsetting that you assume that all "girls" will judge your appeal based solely on your physical features. Judging by your word choices (such as your repeated us of "them/they") when referring to "girls", it can be inferred that you think we "girls" are only interested in the superficial! It may be true in the case of the "girls" you've been around, but if you get out of the habit of instantly separating yourself in the way that you do from "girls", or assuming that they'll behave in a negative fashion, you'll more than likely meet a cool gal who doesn't care about looks or some such nonsense like that.
This one knows what she is talking about. I agree completely.
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You aren't. You are just sabotaging yourself when it comes to relationships. You need to stop thinking so much about it and just go for it. There are some girls who will approach guys but for the most part you have to approach them. It isn't your looks or anything that is lowering your chances with women. It is your attitude and mindset.
I feel it's a requirement for guys to approach women first :D
Rofl e-approach me so that I could say HI to you! XD
It's annoying the male bears that burden, girls expect us all to be alpha males. How about being the Alpha female for once haha. I guess i'd approach a woman by reading her body language, if she's not doing anything to capture my attention I probably won't budge.
Lol no I can't. I was the Alpha Female once. But with this guy I had to be the Alpha Female ALL THE TIME. I nearly butchered him until we were friends.
And this is why I mentioned to just speak up.
He "liked me liked me" but was afraid of being in a relationship with me since he claimed that he didn't want to jepordized our friendship (which I found out years later).
I loved him but because I was really shy with him (I'm not shy at all but I was with him) so I couldn't find a way to admit my feelings. And he also didn't help by not responding to my uh- "Advances". But because he wanted to but physically he didn't, I felt like an ass and just lost hope. And he seemed like a jerk/asshole to me after.
So please please please - I know I should be listening to my own advice but trust me - SPEAK UP PEOPLE.
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