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Posted 3/12/13
you're a kid who is so caught up in modern politics that has already failed everybody that you ignore the desperate pleas of the people harmed to fulfill a ridiculous agenda that will never work because the Palestinians are couragous.

Alan Watts - Philosophy of War

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you must really have a lot of hate for your fellow brothers and sisters with whom you share the world to want them all dead.
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Longfenglim, seriously man, if you can't post without insulting the people you are replying to 512 times per post then maybe you just shouldn't post? Also stop breaking down three paragraph posts and quote replying to them line by line, quote the whole thing, put it in spoiler, then write your response. What you are doing is just as bad as quote pyramid, which everyone in the threads knows is against the rules.

Other people, if you are being flamed don't rise to the bait and respond by flaming back. No matter what Longfenglim said to you replying by insulting him back is just as against the rules as him trolling you to begin with.

In case no one noticed in addition to this warning I also just deleted about a page of posts.

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Posted 3/12/13
Longfenglim still after a long time u still haunt these posts man just ignore him he doesnt understand he basically thinks hes god well course we all know he isnt but he thinks he is HES just so full of himself so ders no point in debating with him trust me me and about 5 people stopped debating with him cos he really just takes it to far and doesnt reply back in d kind manner we do to him.
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Posted 6/22/13
I think israel is in the right no offense.
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kakashi2k7 wrote:

I think israel is in the right no offense.


Why?



longfenglim wrote:

Isn't there a thread like this, where the OP were all complaining about how it is unfair that the Israel are exercising their legitimate right to vengance when your Palestinian Terrorist started shooting at civilians?


If the israelian government cares so much about their own people that they are willing to knowingly kill other civilians to protect their own, why don't they just step down and let the palestinians have their own land?
That would most likely end the conflict. No more civilians dying on either side. Problem solved.
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Posted 6/26/13
palestinians are land thieving terrorists who for only the proliferation of antisemitism are supported!

Israel has been JEWISH land since the beginning of recorded history. While many people may not believe the faith based scriptures, it does lay out a historical timeline. SPECIFICALLY, the ownership of ISRAEL!

Most of the middle east is islamic land. Jewish people have been kicked out of there homes in those countries for DECADES, yet there is no outrage. Yet Israel (which is about 2% of the middle east in pure territory) is condemned by everyone. This is just antisemitic trash PRETENDING to care about the palestinians. Nothing more.

Funny how when islamic terrorists fly a plane into an AMERICAN building killing people, everyone is outraged. Yet when palestinians shoot rockets into school buildings and hospitals, people support them!
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eightcar wrote:
palestinians are land thieving terrorists who for only the proliferation of antisemitism are supported!
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This is just antisemitic trash PRETENDING to care about the palestinians. Nothing more.


Do you have any sort of basis for this claim? Why is it so difficult for you to believe that the support for the palestinians actually does have something to do with israel murdering them like it's nothing?

Furthermore, I hardly think it would be anti-semmitism. If anything it would be anti-zionism, seeing as the government is led by zionists.
And anti-zionism is something that is entirely justified.



eightcar
Israel has been JEWISH land since the beginning of recorded history. While many people may not believe the faith based scriptures, it does lay out a historical timeline. SPECIFICALLY, the ownership of ISRAEL!




Thing is, though, history changes. And part of change is that borders also change. Really, the only "right" that Israel has to this land (as far as I know, mind you) outside of religious scripture, is that the League of Nations approved the "Mandate of Palestine" in order to build a national home for the the jewish people. Which in a sense is kinda silly.
And of course, the UN later decided to divide the country into two halves. One jewish and one arabic. And Israel took that deal.

Since then however, they have been selfishly driving the palestinians out of the borders that they were asigned, taking over their land.
Any way you slice it, that is a treason against the division decided by the UN. They took the deal they were offered, and then they went ahead and took more than they were offered.

Really, to say that Israel even has the right to exist (again, outside of scripture) may be a stretch, seeing as they violated the agreement that they partook in.



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Most of the middle east is islamic land. Jewish people have been kicked out of there homes in those countries for DECADES, yet there is no outrage. Yet Israel (which is about 2% of the middle east in pure territory) is condemned by everyone.

Funny how when islamic terrorists fly a plane into an AMERICAN building killing people, everyone is outraged. Yet when palestinians shoot rockets into school buildings and hospitals, people support them!


Don't you think this might have something to do with the fact that the things that the palestinians does is because of Israel's greed for more land? That it may be because Israel themselves show no mercy towards the palestinian civilians either?
That it may be because Israel themselves caused it, and that if they would just pull out and settle with the land that they were dealt the entire conflict would end? Which means that Israel has the power to end the conflict, but doesn't do so because they are greedy?

Still, it's not like people are supporting Hamas' actions. Hamas is concidered a terrorist group after all...
But on the other hand, Israel are the ones with far more power and resources. There's not really much that Hamas CAN do to fight Israel. And fighting Israel is something that they have every right to do.
Still, the aspect of Hams' methods is probably the most complicated side of the whole issue.
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eightcar wrote:
palestinians are land thieving terrorists who for only the proliferation of antisemitism are supported!
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This is just antisemitic trash PRETENDING to care about the palestinians. Nothing more.


Do you have any sort of basis for this claim? Why is it so difficult for you to believe that the support for the palestinians actually does have something to do with israel murdering them like it's nothing?

Furthermore, I hardly think it would be anti-semmitism. If anything it would be anti-zionism, seeing as the government is led by zionists.
And anti-zionism is something that is entirely justified.



eightcar
Israel has been JEWISH land since the beginning of recorded history. While many people may not believe the faith based scriptures, it does lay out a historical timeline. SPECIFICALLY, the ownership of ISRAEL!




Thing is, though, history changes. And part of change is that borders also change. Really, the only "right" that Israel has to this land (as far as I know, mind you) outside of religious scripture, is that the League of Nations approved the "Mandate of Palestine" in order to build a national home for the the jewish people. Which in a sense is kinda silly.
And of course, the UN later decided to divide the country into two halves. One jewish and one arabic. And Israel took that deal.

Since then however, they have been selfishly driving the palestinians out of the borders that they were asigned, taking over their land.
Any way you slice it, that is a treason against the division decided by the UN. They took the deal they were offered, and then they went ahead and took more than they were offered.

Really, to say that Israel even has the right to exist (again, outside of scripture) may be a stretch, seeing as they violated the agreement that they partook in.



eightcar
Most of the middle east is islamic land. Jewish people have been kicked out of there homes in those countries for DECADES, yet there is no outrage. Yet Israel (which is about 2% of the middle east in pure territory) is condemned by everyone.

Funny how when islamic terrorists fly a plane into an AMERICAN building killing people, everyone is outraged. Yet when palestinians shoot rockets into school buildings and hospitals, people support them!


Don't you think this might have something to do with the fact that the things that the palestinians does is because of Israel's greed for more land? That it may be because Israel themselves show no mercy towards the palestinian civilians either?
That it may be because Israel themselves caused it, and that if they would just pull out and settle with the land that they were dealt the entire conflict would end? Which means that Israel has the power to end the conflict, but doesn't do so because they are greedy?

Still, it's not like people are supporting Hamas' actions. Hamas is concidered a terrorist group after all...
But on the other hand, Israel are the ones with far more power and resources. There's not really much that Hamas CAN do to fight Israel. And fighting Israel is something that they have every right to do.
Still, the aspect of Hams' methods is probably the most complicated side of the whole issue.


1) But I know you have been misled -- as others have been -- into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to those heartfelt principles that you and I share. Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews -- make no mistake about it." - Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/A-022-Martin-Luther-King-Zionism.html

So we know exactly where YOU stand as you are PROUD to be Anti-Zionism.

2) That land has ALWAYS been Jewish land. Just because we were driven out of it (ie land stolen) doesn't mean that we ever forfeited the right to it! Example: I go to your house and steal your computer. A year later, that is STILL your computer that was stolen. The property rights NEVER went to me. As such Israel is JEWISH land. (As islam didn't even come about to 600AD or so, it is IMPOSSIBLE for that land to be islamic at all!)

3) I didn't know that Israel was suppossed to show compassion to the land thieving terrorists who send rockets into schoolyards. Maybe I should send a few rockets into your home and see how YOU react?!!!

4) It is NOT greed to reclaim that which was stolen!

5) To quote you "Still, the aspect of Hams' methods is probably the most complicated side of the whole issue."

Complicated?!!! I guess you approve of suicide bombings and rockets fired into schoolyards and hospitals. If you can't even say their methods are wrong, you have ABSOLUTELY no morals whatsoever, just your antisemitic HATE!
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eightcar

1) But I know you have been misled -- as others have been -- into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to those heartfelt principles that you and I share. Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews -- make no mistake about it." - Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/A-022-Martin-Luther-King-Zionism.html

So we know exactly where YOU stand as you are PROUD to be Anti-Zionism.


Not really. Why don't you spell it out for me? Since you believe that you are somehow fit to lecture me on what my opinion is...



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2) That land has ALWAYS been Jewish land. Just because we were driven out of it (ie land stolen) doesn't mean that we ever forfeited the right to it! Example: I go to your house and steal your computer. A year later, that is STILL your computer that was stolen. The property rights NEVER went to me. As such Israel is JEWISH land. (As islam didn't even come about to 600AD or so, it is IMPOSSIBLE for that land to be islamic at all!)


Here's the thing though... History is decided by the winner. Israel lost its land, which really wasn't an actual country, but just some vaguely defined area. And religion has nothing to say in this. This is politics. What some religious scripture says has no, and SHOULDN'T have any impact on the issue.
So to say that you lost your land is kinda misleading, as it implies that it was a legitimate country that was lost...

I certainly understand your case, and if it was me, I'd probably feel the same. But in actual politics, it just doesn't work like that.



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3) I didn't know that Israel was suppossed to show compassion to the land thieving terrorists who send rockets into schoolyards. Maybe I should send a few rockets into your home and see how YOU react?!!!.

Calm down.
You must remember that Hamas are not representatives for all or even the majority of Palestinians. Most Palestinians are normal people, no different from you and me.

And yes, I agree that what Hamas does is wrong. But that doesn't justify the fact that Israel does the exact same thing. Especially not when Israel have the power to end the conflict at any time. They have land now. They were assigned it by the UN. The problem of them being Jews in the middle east was already solved. But for their leaders it wasn't enough. They were greedy and wanted more. And it is from that greed that all this pain and suffering stems from.

You may feel as you have the right to the land that the Palestinians inhabit, but you really dont. Because again, history and politics doesn't work like that. It sucks, but that's how it is. Simple as that.



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4) It is NOT greed to reclaim that which was stolen!

It is when the people living there today had nothing to do with the taking of the land.
Those people had nothing to do with it. And yet here comes Israel, too blinded by their own pride to understand that they are not the ones to dictate how history goes, nor to understand the simple concept of compassion to those that are innocent and just want to live in peace.





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5) To quote you "Still, the aspect of Hams' methods is probably the most complicated side of the whole issue."

Complicated?!!! I guess you approve of suicide bombings and rockets fired into schoolyards and hospitals. If you can't even say their methods are wrong, you have ABSOLUTELY no morals whatsoever, just your antisemitic HATE!


No I don't. Absolutely not, and I apologize. That was the wrong way to phrase it.
What I intended to say is that while I do think their methods are wrong, it is also, from a cold militarism point of view, understandable. Seeing ad they don't really have anything to stand up against Israel face to face with.

And again, I am not anti-semmitic. Unless of course you're trying to tell me that regular Judaism IS Zionism and vice versa...
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Point #1 & 5)

MARTIN LUTHER KING ON ZIONISM
"Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend"
"... You declare, my friend; that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist'. And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of G-D's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews -- this is G-D's own truth.

"Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agree-ment. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so.

"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tryant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered our L-RD. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.

"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested -- DEMANDED -- the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.

"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfillment of G-D's promise, that His people should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.

"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is anti-Semitism.

"The anti-Semite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the anti-Semite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerrade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!

"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate anti-Semitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled -- as others have been -- into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to those heartfelt principles that you and I share. Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews -- make no mistake about it."

This is why I say you are antisemitic. I refer you to the greatest civil rights leader in the history of the USA.
If you have no respect for MLK, then there is no further point in debating this point.

Point #2)

Israel WAS a country, but as a land-thieving terrorist supporter, you are willing to engage in re-writing history.

Point#3)

Israel does NOT act like the pals. Not in the slightest! Israel does NOT put children in front of snipers using them for cover, hoping they get hit so they can claim that children are targeted. Israel does NOT conduct terrorist (or in your view military) operations from places of worship, school, hospitals, unlike the pals who do. They do this to drum up sympathy while IGNORING THEIR OWN PEOPLE! Equating the pals to Israelis is a false equivalency! Try being honest in your arguments!

Point #4)

Apparently you feel after a certain amount of time stolen property is owned by the thieves and not the people it was stolen from. Could you please tell me exactly how long I must steal all your possessions before they become mine?
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Syndicaidramon wrote:

If the israelian government cares so much about their own people that they are willing to knowingly kill other civilians to protect their own, why don't they just step down and let the palestinians have their own land?
That would most likely end the conflict. No more civilians dying on either side. Problem solved.



If the Israeli Government care so much about their people, why don't they just renounce the right of their citizen to live in their own country? I don't know, why don't the Huns bugger off from England , France, and Most of Germania and give the Celts their land back, or the fucking Norwegian savage Viking fucks fuck off from Norway and give the land back to the Sami people, if they care about their own citizen so much? That would solve so many problem, like appeasing the Scot and Welsh Nationalists, the Breton can partition most of France and Germany between themselves, and all the Krauts can stay in their ancestral homeland, and solve many problems. Let's not forget the Americans, they should fuck off from America, as should anybody who isn't 100% Amerindians.

Maybe it is because it is their fucking land, not the fucking Palestinian land, and because even if we use birth as indicative of 'homeland', most Israeli citizens are born in Israel. Maybe they do have a right to defend themselves because these 'other civilians' are shooting at Israeli citizens, for the sole reason of being Israeli and being a Jew.

But there is no arguing with you, you have already declared that you would like everyone to abandon their heritage to assimilate with the rest of the population, and you would like to chase all the Moslems, Jews, and Coloured people from your beloved Norway.
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Longfenglim still after a long time u still haunt these posts man just ignore him he doesnt understand he basically thinks hes god well course we all know he isnt but he thinks he is HES just so full of himself so ders no point in debating with him trust me me and about 5 people stopped debating with him cos he really just takes it to far and doesnt reply back in d kind manner we do to him.


You are, however, illiterate, and your arguments against Zionism borders anti-Semitism.
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longfenglim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

If the israelian government cares so much about their own people that they are willing to knowingly kill other civilians to protect their own, why don't they just step down and let the palestinians have their own land?
That would most likely end the conflict. No more civilians dying on either side. Problem solved.



If the Israeli Government care so much about their people, why don't they just renounce the right of their citizen to live in their own country? I don't know, why don't the Huns bugger off from England , France, and Most of Germania and give the Celts their land back, or the fucking Norwegian savage Viking fucks fuck off from Norway and give the land back to the Sami people, if they care about their own citizen so much? That would solve so many problem, like appeasing the Scot and Welsh Nationalists, the Breton can partition most of France and Germany between themselves, and all the Krauts can stay in their ancestral homeland, and solve many problems. Let's not forget the Americans, they should fuck off from America, as should anybody who isn't 100% Amerindians.


Come on now. Is that really necessary?

And the simple answer to this is that these are not issues that innocent people are getting murdered over every single day. Unlike the Israel v. Palestine conflict.
And that is what makes the big difference.



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Maybe it is because it is their fucking land, not the fucking Palestinian land, and because even if we use birth as indicative of 'homeland', most Israeli citizens are born in Israel. Maybe they do have a right to defend themselves because these 'other civilians' are shooting at Israeli citizens, for the sole reason of being Israeli and being a Jew.


Here's the thing though... Israel DOES have its own land. It was assigned it by the UN.
The reason that this conflict exists is because the israelian government violated the UN agreement and started taking over the arabic side, which they had no right to do.

I'm sure you'll agree that just because the native Americans once ruled the American land, it doesn't give them the rights to start murdering people now in order to win it back. Or that the Sami should be killing people in order to win their land back. History decides who gets to keep what. And the israelians lost their country. That's how things work. And even though they didn't have any political right to have it, the UN was kind enough to grant them their own land.

But that wasn't enough for the israelian government. They wanted more, and started taking more land.
Any way you slice it, Israel are at fault for starting this war. They are the ones who violated the UN agreement, and they are the ones that started the war by trying to take more land that they don't have any political right to have.
And that is also why Hamas are shooting at them. Because they are trying to take palestinian land.

But hey, how about we put all the blaming aside? Pointing fingers won't get us anywhere. What really needs to be done is find a solution. And the most likely solution would be a compromise.
What would be the most fair thing, politicly speaking, would be for Israel to revert back to the land they were assigned, and let the Palestinians have their share. However that will obviously not happen, so how about this?
All land that Israel CURRENTLY has, will belong to them, and all the land that the palestinians still have, will belong to them.
Does that seem fair to you?



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But there is no arguing with you, you have already declared that you would like everyone to abandon their heritage to assimilate with the rest of the population, and you would like to chase all the Moslems, Jews, and Coloured people from your beloved Norway.


I think you've misunderstood. I don't want people to abandon their heritage. I love the various different cultures around the world. They are what makes the world colorful, varied and unique, and I want them to keep existing.
And that is part of why I think that people who immigrate to other countries should adapt to that country's customs, culture and rules.
Because I fear that if they don't, countries with high immigration could have their culture watered out, to the point of near extinction, just like what happened with the culture of the native americans. Which, in my opinion, is tragic, because that culture is really interesting and fascinating. And I just don't want that same thing to happen to other cultures.

Every culture (as far as what sets the culture apart from the rest of the world, namely language, clothing, music, art, architecture etc.) that is lost is a loss for the world as a whole. In my opinion. And that is why I think we must do what we can to prevent them being watered out. To prevent them from going extinct.
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Point #1 & 5)


This is why I say you are antisemitic. I refer you to the greatest civil rights leader in the history of the USA.
If you have no respect for MLK, then there is no further point in debating this point.


According to Wikipedia: "Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora."

Now these are all things that can be either good or bad, depending on how you look at it.
If it is from a purely cultural point of view, then I have no problem with this. Culture is awesome and cultural identity is important for all people to uphold, in my opinion.
If the return of jews to Israel is also with that intention, then that is also a totally respectable wish that I will support full heartedly.
And of course, descrimination based on race or religion is not good, so that is also a good goal.

The problem however comes in with the fact that often times, Zionism is not limited to the cultural aspect, but also the religious aspect. Often times, Zionism goes hand in hand with a theocratic philosophy, something that is extremely dangerous.
And it becomes even more dangerous when it goes into racial/religious supremacy territory, which is exactly what happens within the israelian government.

Take Ovadia Yosef for instance. He is the former Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel, and currently serves as the spiritual leader of the Shas political party in the Israeli parliament.
In other words, he's a very influential political figure.

Now, here is a quote from mr. Yosef:
"Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel."

He also supports the orthodox idea of Gentiles as being inferior.
"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.", insinuating again, that the only purpose these people serve is to serve the jews.

These are dangerous ideologies, and not at all uncommon within Zionism.

So really, I guess I should say that wheather or not I am anti-zionist, depends on the kind of Zionism in question...




eightcar
Israel WAS a country, but as a land-thieving terrorist supporter, you are willing to engage in re-writing history.


I am sorry. I was not aware. Could you elaborate on this?


eightcar
Israel does NOT act like the pals. Not in the slightest! Israel does NOT put children in front of snipers using them for cover, hoping they get hit so they can claim that children are targeted. Israel does NOT conduct terrorist (or in your view military) operations from places of worship, school, hospitals, unlike the pals who do. They do this to drum up sympathy while IGNORING THEIR OWN PEOPLE! Equating the pals to Israelis is a false equivalency! Try being honest in your arguments!


That is indeed true.
But that does not change the fact that Israel too are murdering innocent civilians. It also does not change the fact that Israel are the ones that started this war. It also does not change the fact that they have the power to end the war whenever they want, but refuse to. Simply because they want more land, even though they already have their own land, provided to them by the UN.

If Israel stopped being greedy, admitted that they had no political right to take the land, and just ended the coflict, it would all be over.




eightcar
Apparently you feel after a certain amount of time stolen property is owned by the thieves and not the people it was stolen from. Could you please tell me exactly how long I must steal all your possessions before they become mine?


War over countries, and the overtaking of countries do not work in the same way as a simple piece of personal possession.
And even if it did, violence is not the way to solve it. Israel could've used other means to gain back their land. If they truly had a sound case, it would eventually go through. But they chose not to. They chose to instead go the path of needless bloodshed and suffering.
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We honestly dont need Israel. What we should have done in the first place was develop Poland into a Jewish state, since that country has been composed of nothing Jews. Then Place Poland under the protection of U.S and the NATO Alliance. My only question is how the Soviets at the time would have responded once we made this decision considering Stalin's so called 'right' to every nation his military liberated from the Nazi's during the Second World War. But marking Poland as the Jewish state would have been a better idea than evicting the Palestine from the rightful land and causing all this ruckus. If Israel was not created, I wonder what the Middle east would be like.
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