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I've been learning Hiragana for 3-4 weeks now and Katakana for 2 days and it's been much easier than I expected. Everything is easier than I expected actually, it's really easy and fun!
When I have nothing to do (which is all the time) I do a little more Japanese! Have any of you been learning Japanese? How's progress? I wanna know how other people are "coping"? |
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Well. Bayern. Well done.
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That's the easy bit unfortunately.
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FIGHT ME IRL
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Don't give up! : )
"I think I'm turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so!" I heart that song. ^_^ |
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Deeper Deeper
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I have :D. I've been learning the kanji for about a year now and I'm at about 1000 kanji (Just the English meanings RTK).
While it is progress, it's not very good at all. I use Anki to review the kanji and I keep getting depressed (due to life, not the kanji :P). When that happens I drop all my reviews. When I'm ready to learn again, I've forgotten lots of them and the process repeats! So I'm not coping that well, but I keep trying! As you've just started, the most important thing I can tell you is don't give up and keep reviewing what you've learnt daily with Anki or equivalent. Good Luck! |
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nintendolaru wrote: Don't give up! : ) "I think I'm turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so!" I heart that song. ^_^ I think I'm learning Japanese. I think I'm learning Japanese. I really think so. Now it's embedded deeper. Enjoy. |
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Slowly picking my way through katakana when I get some spare time/effort, pretty sure I know the hiragana (?) for no from that one episode of champloo which had that as a major plot point (looks like a backwards e or a theta thats not joined up on the left)
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7 exams, 21 hours worth to go
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僕は日本語がちょっとわかります、ですけど毎日べんきょうするに。
I use rosetta stone and a friend of mine who happens to be from Hokkaido. I'd love to find some people to practice with |
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Ryuunosuke don't you dare sink my ship
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That looks good.
I only wrote Kokorozashi in paint as a HD picture with black Ink. A bit hard but very fun drawing Kanji! |
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♫♫Past past past past is Hatsune Miku memories!!!!♫♫
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Well, the good news is hiragana and katakana are definitely the right place to start.
Really as a whole, the language isn't that bad so long as you have reasonable expectations and a good way to practice. For learning vocab lists, I'd suggest using a site like quizlet. Whenever I'm learning new vocab, I make a quilzet set and try to go through the best I can, writing down all the answers I get wrong on a separate sheet of paper. I rewrite those words a few times afterwards and say them out loud before trying again. It works well for me, but that may not be the case for everybody. The best way to memorize kanji is a combination of knowing the radicals, and just practicing writing them. You'll start to see trends emerging in store orders and patterns which makes things easier to remember. I can usually remember a Kanji after writing it around 10-20 times, but I'm sure this varies from person to person. It's important to go back and review everything from time to time though. Especially with complex characters like Kanji, it can be surprising how quickly you might forget things! Quizlet is good for this reason as well with vocab because you can combine all of the different sets you make into a superset and review everything all at once. |
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Meep
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As haikinka said, the kana are fairly easy, and just the first (albeit very important) step. I imagine a fair number of anime watchers at some point attempt to learn Japanese to some degree or another, and there are a number of other forum topics on this subject elsehwere here in CR. From the point of view of native English speakers, though, Japanese grammar is very challenging, I think, as is the kanji writing system, so getting some formal instruction (e.g. class, textbook, software, online, tutor or conversation partner, or some combination thereof) would be useful.
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im trying to learn jaanese too. japan was freaking awesome....there were alot of weirdos though lol. o yeah to the girlz who wants to visit Tokyo...watch out for pedos and pervs.
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sk8ing or playing fooz.
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I learned Kana, working on Kanji. Loving the grammar and making steady progress. Japanese is fun
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Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
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cannibalcarrot wrote: 僕は日本語がちょっとわかります、ですけど毎日べんきょうするに。 I use rosetta stone and a friend of mine who happens to be from Hokkaido. I'd love to find some people to practice with it would be better to say, 僕は日本語がちょっとわかりますけど、毎日勉強しています the です is unnecessary, and the ~て form plus いる for studying is best because it is something you are in the process of doing every day |
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口と心は裏腹なことがたたあります
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PumeHana92 wrote: cannibalcarrot wrote: 僕は日本語がちょっとわかります、ですけど毎日べんきょうするに。 I use rosetta stone and a friend of mine who happens to be from Hokkaido. I'd love to find some people to practice with it would be better to say, 僕は日本語がちょっとわかりますけど、毎日勉強しています the です is unnecessary, and the ~て form plus いる for studying is best because it is something you are in the process of doing every day yeah I'm still getting used to tense stuff. 僕ががんばろよ |
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Ryuunosuke don't you dare sink my ship
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cannibalcarrot wrote: PumeHana92 wrote: cannibalcarrot wrote: 僕は日本語がちょっとわかります、ですけど毎日べんきょうするに。 I use rosetta stone and a friend of mine who happens to be from Hokkaido. I'd love to find some people to practice with it would be better to say, 僕は日本語がちょっとわかりますけど、毎日勉強しています the です is unnecessary, and the ~て form plus いる for studying is best because it is something you are in the process of doing every day And you're probably going to want to drop the 僕は, as pronouns are dropped ~75% of the time. The direction of action is usually indicated within the context, tense of the verb(s) used, etc. I started out with Human Japanese and Midori (iOS apps), and have been studying since ~March 2011, though I only recently passed the JLPT N5 last December, finally found out at the beginning of this month ^^ (You really have to pay attention to the listening part - in the last section, they don't repeat anything; you lose focus for a second and you have to guess basically the whole sentence, though the whole N5 test is multiple choice) Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ![]() I've been done with Japanese 2B for a while, but I've been looking into a lot of books on grammar and such since I finished that class, and am currently working with a (native) tutor for 1 hour on (mainly) conversation every thursday. My tutor says I'm "getting better" at conversation, though it still needs improvement, yet she says my kanji skills are at an N2 level >_> So I basically have this really big imbalance of reading/writing skills vs grammar and conversation. Anyways, my advice to people who are also learning Japanese: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide 1) PERSEVERE! - Find something to keep you motivated, I am aiming to be able to watch anime raw, be able to make normal conversations, hopefully native-level eventually, with native speaks if I can ever visit Japan. Also try to do different things that immerse you in the language, such as listening to Japanese music (Asian Kung-Fu Generation), trying some raw anime (which you can do here on Crunchy) or manga once in awhile, and so on. You could also, when you feel comfortable enough, try setting your electronics to Japanese, such as your iPod or Laptop (Apple devices are much more non-english friendly, especially the typography) 2) Start with inexpensive software/texts, and work your way up to more expensive stuff if you need it. Not going to diss Rosetta Stone, but I've never used it don't plan on doing so anytime soon. 3) Practice reading and writing kanji (and kana)- there are many different things to cover with kanji: Stroke order, direction (both are almost natural after practicing various different kanji for awhile), on and kun readings, kanji with made up readings (>_>), and names. Some kanji have more than 20 different readings, by themselves, for names. 4) Don't use romaji - unless your learning kana - simply put, this is the biggest hinderance you could have in learning Japanese. Once you learn the kana (hiragana and katakana) don't touch romaji at all unless you've forgotten the readings of a certain kana or such. 5) Don't be scared of all the rules and such - Japanese might seem extremely different from English (it is), but don't let it discourage you. Just picture yourself as Natsu (from Fairy Tail) and Japanese as something that's utterly impossible (take it as a challenge); but it isn't Spanish or French, it's an oriental language, so it's going to be more difficult. 6) Try to work your way into native level texts - working with "Japanese 101" books in english is totally fine for the first while, but try to work your way to books that are written in Japanese. One I'd recommend for somebody on a level of moderate understanding of the language (I have no idea how to compare comprehension or ability) is the すぐに使える実践日本語シリーズ (Immediately useful - practical Japanese workbooks series), specifically the ninth volume, as it deals with beginner and intermediate uses of particles, which are extremely vital and also some very big obstacles (such as the difference between は and が). I'm no expert but I'm happy to give any beginners advice. Though the only advantage I would say asking me something has is that it's free :P みんなさん、がんばって〜 Oh, and don't get into the habit of talking casually (いく vs いきます) as you're going to be talking to most people (people you don't know, teachers, adults, bosses, etc) formally. I made that mistake awhile ago and it was a little difficult to get used to talking formally by default again. |
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