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Most overrated anime(s)?
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Kellious wrote:


The thing I hate about the anime was how the writer tried to convey messages to the audience, there didn't seem to be any real faith. Some examples being Misato being proxy to Shinji's thoughts every time he went to test synchronizations, the various introspection monologues, and of course the last episodes. Instead of using actions to show emotions and feelings the writer just had, either through proxy or through direct means, the character say how they felt overtly. Now sometimes this is ok, but it shows better screenwriting ability to use actions rather than a long speech about how your nothing or whatever convoluted theme Hideaki was trying to get across.

The main thing I'm complaining about is almost cliche in anime. It's almost stereotypical for there to me way more TELL than show in the writing. There always seems to be a piccolo/kakashi character who broadcasts motivations/emotions/techniques that the writer thinks the audience needs dumbed down.

I guess I was more or so let down as to what I thought the anime COULD of been. But that is purely subjective, I saw all these monsters and lore and thought they would be used only to have them put on the backburner for what was IMO a sub-par psychological drama.


The real messages were underlined in the dialogue, beneath the words if you will. You were expecting more from it than it was (clearly proven to be a bad idea) and that is how you became disappointed. Now, a show that doesn't use those things you loathe so much (to a better extent) is Texhnolyze - a very quiet show. Think of it as one big drawn out wail of hopelessness and despair. Just to clarify (and I'll highlight it for you), but your wording confused me a little on some parts. If you could, could you reword it in a way that makes more sense? Basically make your reasons more clear (ie use better examples, etc.).


sry to say but he explained it clearly i suggest you go pull out a dictionary to understand the language they call english, and i agree with him stories need to have symbolic plot devices and make it occur in a sequential matter that would make everything mesh together plot wise instead of explaining the whole storyline conflict and issues without really putting them into real world practical application.

Example is if i say the world is corrupt i have to illustrate my point and my main idea through story arc(s) not through plain dialogue that is basically a dicussion not a story and animes follow storylines tagged with animation illustrating the story. and evangelion doesn't really pull it off .. i believe it was one of the most loosely applied context animes in terms of illustrating the struggles/fears in depth ..they could have shown more intimate scenes of the characters constantly dealing with their flaw or fear such as loneliness. If a character is lonely then they need to be show in the anime depth of that loneliness. They pretty much just show Rei is a room and secluded practically. I'd like to see her in a crowd of people. I'd like to see her with a person she had a deep bond with or a superficial bond. They don't really show it through the anime but try to leave it up to imagination(this is good for some plot devices but not all). It's not that fact isn't a good anime it is . That is all it is . It isn't a brilliant. Brilliant is Ruroni Kenshin.

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Posted 3/7/13 , edited 3/7/13

Stryker-X wrote:


Shrapnel893 wrote:


Kellious wrote:


The thing I hate about the anime was how the writer tried to convey messages to the audience, there didn't seem to be any real faith. Some examples being Misato being proxy to Shinji's thoughts every time he went to test synchronizations, the various introspection monologues, and of course the last episodes. Instead of using actions to show emotions and feelings the writer just had, either through proxy or through direct means, the character say how they felt overtly. Now sometimes this is ok, but it shows better screenwriting ability to use actions rather than a long speech about how your nothing or whatever convoluted theme Hideaki was trying to get across.

The main thing I'm complaining about is almost cliche in anime. It's almost stereotypical for there to me way more TELL than show in the writing. There always seems to be a piccolo/kakashi character who broadcasts motivations/emotions/techniques that the writer thinks the audience needs dumbed down.

I guess I was more or so let down as to what I thought the anime COULD of been. But that is purely subjective, I saw all these monsters and lore and thought they would be used only to have them put on the backburner for what was IMO a sub-par psychological drama.


The real messages were underlined in the dialogue, beneath the words if you will. You were expecting more from it than it was (clearly proven to be a bad idea) and that is how you became disappointed. Now, a show that doesn't use those things you loathe so much (to a better extent) is Texhnolyze - a very quiet show. Think of it as one big drawn out wail of hopelessness and despair. Just to clarify (and I'll highlight it for you), but your wording confused me a little on some parts. If you could, could you reword it in a way that makes more sense? Basically make your reasons more clear (ie use better examples, etc.).


sry to say but he explained it clearly i suggest you go pull out a dictionary to understand the language they call english, and i agree with him stories need to have symbolic plot devices and make it occur in a sequential matter that would make everything mesh together plot wise instead of explaining the whole storyline conflict and issues without really putting them into real world practical application.

Example is if i say the world is corrupt i have to illustrate my point and my main idea through story arc(s) not through plain dialogue that is basically a dicussion not a story and animes follow storylines tagged with animation illustrating the story. and evangelion doesn't really pull it off .. i believe it was one of the most loosely applied context animes in terms of illustrating the struggles/fears in depth ..they could have shown more intimate scenes of the characters constantly dealing with their flaw or fear such as loneliness. If a character is lonely then they need to be show in the anime depth of that loneliness. They pretty much just show Rei is a room and secluded practically. I'd like to see her in a crowd of people. I'd like to see her with a person she had a deep bond with or a superficial bond. They don't really show it through the anime but try to leave it up to imagination(this is good for some plot devices but not all). It's not that fact isn't a good anime it is . That is all it is . It isn't a brilliant. Brilliant is Ruroni Kenshin.



You didn't have to insult me, it appears you need a dictionary more than me, by the way. Stories don't need to have symbolic plot devices - or occur in sequential order, for that matter, to get their messages across. About the other things, have you ever seen Serial Experiments Lain? It's the same way - you have to think to understand it, outside the realm of just visual interpretation. The way you defined how anime is supposed to be is just absurd, there are multiple ways to tell a story you know.
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Naruto Bleach One Piece. That Houyka anime. honestly I love Gintama to death but it is over rated. basically any main stream anime that is in shonen jump and got an anime is over rated.
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I don't care...? lol
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Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, and Shugo Chara I would have to say are the most overrated Animes.
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sword art online way overrated
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Exactly what makes an anime overrated?

A lot of people mentions the big three. So simply because they are massively popular they are overrated? Doesn't make sense.

Generally the idea to label something as overrated is problematic, since rating is a subjective matter, but then to take the three most popular animes which the largest fan base and say they are overrated with no reasons as to why is just plain stupid. It's fine not to like those animes, but that doesn't mean they are overrated. It just means that you don't share the same taste as so many others. And if you're going to say some anime is overrated anyway, then please make the case for why your oppinion is the right one and not everyone's else.
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contrololol wrote:

No offense but there are way way too many hipsters in this thread. Sure hype and word of mouth has definitely helped out big anime titles such as bleach and naruto, but that is not the only reason for their popularity. Any long-running anime gets boring throughout the years but then they get good again, this is normal. When Bleach starts up again, whether amazing or overall boring, there will still be moments of greatness. One great episode makes up for 10 boring ones in my books. Even the more boring episodes are enjoyable for me since I just love seeing characters who have grown on me interact with each other and go about their business.



What did you expect out of a thread like this? The premise of the thread is essentially to talk about how much you don't like everything that is popular because it's popular. Bound to attract people who choose what they like based on the size of it's fanbase.


pstudio wrote:

Exactly what makes an anime overrated?

A lot of people mentions the big three. So simply because they are massively popular they are overrated? Doesn't make sense.

Generally the idea to label something as overrated is problematic, since rating is a subjective matter, but then to take the three most popular animes which the largest fan base and say they are overrated with no reasons as to why is just plain stupid. It's fine not to like those animes, but that doesn't mean they are overrated. It just means that you don't share the same taste as so many others. And if you're going to say some anime is overrated anyway, then please make the case for why your oppinion is the right one and not everyone's else.


What you have said just now is really stupid. Like, really fucking stupid. You're essentially saying that yes, it is a subjective matter, but they can't use a subjective word to describe it. Overrated is an adjective used to describe something that receives an exorbitant amount of praise. That is entirely subjective.
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The big three.
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i dunno why some of you said SOA, I'm really liking it! Each to their own i guess
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Death Note
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I really enjoyed the original Naruto, but Shippuden is garbage. It takes them ridiculous amounts of episodes to move the story forward even a little and 90% of each episode is flash backs. Naruto was much more fluid and moved at a much quicker pace. The battles took a good amount of time, but it didn't really contain unnecessary stuff and didn't have very many fillers until the last part of the series.
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Angel Beats,my only problem with this show is that it was too short, so we didn't get to see everybody back stories and the plot just had too many elements to it, plus i never felt it was as emotional as something like Clannad or Kanon, though i still liked some of the characters, animation and artwork, music and the concept, it is a good anime, but i wouldn't exactly call it a masterpiece.
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your like sword art online up till episode 13 after that boring
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Naruto
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