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Jeremy Rifkin: The Empathic Civilization
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There is no empathy in a stratified hierarchical society as we see prolific in almost every nation. Our officials (least perhaps here in the United States) staunchly preach that individualism and competition lead to success, creating "them and those", when you have less people in your social tier you have less interpersonal relations and less connection to the plight of those in lesser tiers or those deemed "inferior", thus no altruism or sense of interdependence. No society is incorruptible or exclusive, sometimes you don't even need the concept of industry and money, or of exploitative economic globalization (nothing bad with globalization, at least they work in factories rather than resorting to the world's oldest profession) to introduce the stratified society. Digressing, look at humanity's treatment of others. You have societies where the murder and rape and burning of huts is allowed to be done to other groups of different background or nationality, of atrocity to be committed by the upper castes of society on the lower castes, like the Dalit of India or the varying religious enclaves of the Middle-East. In fact you have so much of these occurrences and atrocity and unequal justice, that they have to stage and feign mock trials just to appease the watching eyes and press of the international community. Modernity has created this artificial hostile environment of extreme self reliance and stress, that it can be discerned by medical statistics pertinent to mental and cardiac health.


Yes, these are the problems we face as a global society, but we can either try to solve them or we can just assume that they cannot be solved. The choice is completely up to us, and the great thing about this book is that it brings optimism into the equation and presents an alternative way of perceiving human nature, one that makes all of these problems seem completely solvable as long as everyone can buy into this concept of empathy. Modern times may seem depressing, but did you ever think of comparing how life is today with how it was in the past? All of the evidence reinforces the idea that we are in the most peaceful era of our existence, so this alone should give you the hope that we can eventually solve all of these problems, you just got to focus on the similarities that we all share as one large extended family. Once you do this, your fear of others decreases further and further until it ceases to exist. If everyone did this, we will have obtained world peace and will never have to worry about these horrible crimes ever happening again.



Your optimism in the whole of humanity to unite and embrace is speculative even naive, but I respect that idealism. As for concluding that we live in "the most peaceful era of our existence", I am very skeptical, we are still living in the aftermath of the Second World War, and every nation is only one world event from committing genocide, say if the United States decided to withdraw from the international stage and the United Nations were disbanded. Bosnia of the early 90s would've been a microcosm of what would engulf Europe, and in Eastern Asia, again if the United States declared an intention to withdraw from South Korea and Japan, the PRC wouldn't think about allowing the Japanese to re-arm or permit themselves a standing military and South Korea would be overrun in a matter of weeks with their capitol kilometers away from the DMZ, Taiwan too would be prospectively assimilated into some Pan-Asian hegemony, I can digress further but shan't. The world peace you hope for is highly improbable, we may be living in a period of peace as you say, but that is not a reassured peace but a fragile one. Look up the Encyclopedia of Conflicts Since World War II, then talk about how peaceful our era really is while even excluding organized conflict, there is still the matter of deeply ingrained social culture that will conflict with other cultures or is itself characterized by bellicose trait such as is in the United States.
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Your optimism in the whole of humanity to unite and embrace is speculative even naive, but I respect that idealism. As for concluding that we live in "the most peaceful era of our existence", I am very skeptical, we are still living in the aftermath of the Second World War, and every nation is only one world event from committing genocide, say if the United States decided to withdraw from the international stage and the United Nations were disbanded. Bosnia of the early 90s would've been a microcosm of what would engulf Europe, and in Eastern Asia, again if the United States declared an intention to withdraw from South Korea and Japan, the PRC wouldn't think about allowing the Japanese to re-arm or permit themselves a standing military and South Korea would be overrun in a matter of weeks with their capitol kilometers away from the DMZ, Taiwan too would be prospectively assimilated into some Pan-Asian hegemony, I can digress further but shan't. The world peace you hope for is highly improbable, we may be living in a period of peace as you say, but that is not a reassured peace but a fragile one. Look up the Encyclopedia of Conflicts Since World War II, then talk about how peaceful our era really is while even excluding organized conflict, there is still the matter of deeply ingrained social culture that will conflict with other cultures or is itself characterized by bellicose trait such as is in the United States.


You bring up valid points, but are you familiar with the book The Better Angels of our Nature by Steven Pinker? It contains heavily-researched information on this subject and presents a compelling case as to why we shouldn't be concerned with the violence of modern times. I don't believe that social cultures are as ingrained into people as they once were, so I think it is reasonable to expect these cultures to disintegrate and merge with one another as we continue to enlarge our social circles and increase our communication with people from all over the world.
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