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Posted 2/10/13

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Subs are so much better. I mean there are some dubs that since I initially watched them dubbed (like Ouran), I prefer them that way (if they were well done) since I'm used to it. But in general I find that the original Japanese versions are so much livelier and I love the ways things are expressed as opposed to how American voice actors would interpret it.


I get what you're saying about prefering dubs you've seen first. If I see a quality dub first then I'll prefer it to subs. Basically whatever I see first their voices get set in my mind as the characters. Though if a dubs terrible and the acting sucks then I'll take to a sub easier.


What if the acting in the sub sucks?


Personally its hard for me tell if Japanese voice actors suck. I don't understand most of the language so I can't tell whether they sound natural or wooden, as long as it sounds nice I assume its decent. If it sounds bad its hard to tell if its a voice actors fault or does the series, writing, and/or director suck. A voice actor can only do so much.
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Posted 2/10/13

Goomoonryong wrote:


Shrapnel893 wrote:


Goomoonryong wrote:


hillzycat wrote:

Subs are so much better. I mean there are some dubs that since I initially watched them dubbed (like Ouran), I prefer them that way (if they were well done) since I'm used to it. But in general I find that the original Japanese versions are so much livelier and I love the ways things are expressed as opposed to how American voice actors would interpret it.


I get what you're saying about prefering dubs you've seen first. If I see a quality dub first then I'll prefer it to subs. Basically whatever I see first their voices get set in my mind as the characters. Though if a dubs terrible and the acting sucks then I'll take to a sub easier.


What if the acting in the sub sucks?


Personally its hard for me tell if Japanese voice actors suck. I don't understand most of the language so I can't tell whether they sound natural or wooden, as long as it sounds nice I assume its decent. If it sounds bad its hard to tell if its a voice actors fault or does the series, writing, and/or director suck. A voice actor can only do so much.



True. That's the response I was expecting. Would have said the same thing . Though, sometimes I can tell when they sound 'wooden' so to speak. Like with Kei Kurono in Gantz.
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I think that, for the most part, i prefer subed over dubed becuase most anime dubs sound really campy and half-serrious. but i think that the disney dubs for studio ghibli movies are really good.
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Shrapnel893 wrote: what if the acting in the sub sucks?

It will reduce enjoyment of the anime, but the main thing is that it feels like there is a real interaction between the characters. That's was is lost in watching the anime with the subtitles but no sound track. And that's where a lot of dubs fall down: getting that feeling of interaction is easier when the actors are recording together in a studio than when they are each recording their lines alone in a booth.
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Shrapnel893 wrote: what if the acting in the sub sucks?

It will reduce enjoyment of the anime, but the main thing is that it feels like there is a real interaction between the characters. That's was is lost in watching the anime with the subtitles but no sound track. And that's where a lot of dubs fall down: getting that feeling of interaction is easier when the actors are recording together in a studio than when they are each recording their lines alone in a booth.


I know, that wasn't what I was asking, but of now engineers are doing great jobs at making that not much of an issue. There are shows with little to no music in them that work well.
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Shrapnel893 wrote: I know, that wasn't what I was asking, but of now engineers are doing great jobs at making that not much of an issue.

Its not up to engineers, its up to the actors.


There are shows with little to no music in them that work well.

What does music have to do with actors recording the dub radio-theater-style and the actors recording their lines alone, one after the other, relying on their imagination as to how the other actors in the scene will sound?
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Shrapnel893 wrote: I know, that wasn't what I was asking, but of now engineers are doing great jobs at making that not much of an issue.

Its not up to engineers, its up to the actors.


There are shows with little to no music in them that work well.

What does music have to do with actors recording the dub radio-theater-style and the actors recording their lines alone, one after the other, relying on their imagination as to how the other actors in the scene will sound?


Hmmm? Did I get something wrong? Sorry, I guess when I saw 'soundtrack' I thought 'music', my bad . The actors in the booth play off each others performance, the first one to go in sets the tone for the rest of them (usually). The engineers spice together all the broke up dialogue from each individual performance into one thing. Though I'm sure you already know about this and that wasn't the answer you were looking for. Yes, it's partially up to the actors to make the dialogue work. Anyway, back to the soundtrack thing. When you meant soundtrack, did you mean everything from voice to ambient background or?

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Shrapnel893 wrote: Hmmm? Did I get something wrong? Sorry, I guess when I saw 'soundtrack' I thought 'music', my bad

No, I just meant audio.


The actors in the booth play off each others performance, the first one to go in sets the tone for the rest of them (usually).

Its still not the same as the Japanese do for anime, or the recording of an animated movie like Bee Story, where the actors are in the studio together and play off of each other.

It can be done effectively, its just harder to do effectively that way, so its less common.
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Shrapnel893 wrote: Hmmm? Did I get something wrong? Sorry, I guess when I saw 'soundtrack' I thought 'music', my bad

No, I just meant audio.


The actors in the booth play off each others performance, the first one to go in sets the tone for the rest of them (usually).

Its still not the same as the Japanese do for anime, or the recording of an animated movie like Bee Story, where the actors are in the studio together and play off of each other.

It can be done effectively, its just harder to do effectively that way, so its less common.


Of course it's not. The way the Japanese do their anime is common for most original production voice over work, if you get what I'm trying to say. Record together, that is. Same way with American cartoon voice over work.

When you say done effectively, I'm assuming you mean when the Japanese dub over an animated movie like Bee Story, right? Anyway, I've basically said everything I needed to in my previous post, unless I missed something.
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I prefer dubs myself. Although sadly context can be lost with english. One such example might be Onii-chan and Onii-sama. both mean brother but the latter is more respectful. And of course saying "Honored brother" in a dub feels off.

Although their are a lot with awful dubs so i can see peoples attraction to subs.
Other than people who consider all dubs herasy of course.
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sub all the way
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Valahuir wrote:

I prefer dubs myself. Although sadly context can be lost with english. One such example might be Onii-chan and Onii-sama. both mean brother but the latter is more respectful. And of course saying "Honored brother" in a dub feels off.

Although their are a lot with awful dubs so i can see peoples attraction to subs.
Other than people who consider all dubs herasy of course.


Which is the majority of sub only people.
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I like both, but if i had to choose I would have to go with both.
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Comprises are made when things are made in Post Production.
They have to match the lip syncs after all.


And if something's in a different language there can be wierd translations, that just doesn't fit.

This is not just Anime, but applies to everything.....How weird was the Croaching Tiger Hidden Dragon dub after all?

To be fair, some anime dubs are pretty good, and I sometimes like to see how they've interpreted it, but live action dubs....Forget it.
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Comprises are made when things are made in Post Production.
They have to match the lip syncs after all.


And if something's in a different language there can be wierd translations, that just doesn't fit.

This is not just Anime, but applies to everything.....How weird was the Croaching Tiger Hidden Dragon dub after all?

To be fair, some anime dubs are pretty good, and I sometimes like to see how they've interpreted it, but live action dubs....Forget it.


I agree, most (if not all) live actions dubs are....
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