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How do people feel about being lied to about the Climate?
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I am curious to see how many people out there are observing the complete failure from the scientific community who are paid to ****ing monitor it, being honest about drastic climate change that doesn't want to be throughlly discussed or researched, but blamed on things that do not apply itself to reality or science but sure suites powerful shitty peoples agendas..and how people refusing to see this affects people who are noticing it?

Either this is Space doing this which is affecting the weather, which is part of a cycle

We are doing it (different technologies besides schlar exist research it)

Something is affecting the planet which is foreign to us

Not sure what it is because all three things have inconsistencies that are not fully explained.

That's what makes it interesting and having others insight makes the journey of learning much more a worth while experience.

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What was the lie?
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I am curious to see how many people out there are observing the complete failure from the scientific community who are paid to ****ing monitor it, being honest about drastic climate change that doesn't want to be throughlly discussed or researched, but blamed on things that do not apply itself to reality or science but sure suites powerful shitty peoples agendas..and how people refusing to see this affects people who are noticing it?

Either this is Space doing this which is affecting the weather, which is part of a cycle

We are doing it (different technologies besides schlar exist research it)

Something is affecting the planet which is foreign to us

Not sure what it is because all three things have inconsistencies that are not fully explained.

That's what makes it interesting and having others insight makes the journey of learning much more a worth while experience.

Negative responds will be ignored (that doesn't mean difference of opinion or sarcasm, it means being an uneducated asshole with nothing nice to say)
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It glitched and didn't post what I first wrote.
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Where did you get these ideas from? Do you have any proof that shows the scientific community acting in this manner?
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It would help if what you wrote made a bit more sense, I'm having a hard time understanding it.
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Same here, Haikinka. I could hardly understand what he was saying, nor could I understand whether he was trying to prove or deny a certain point. Could you be a bit more clear?
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Climate is far too complicated to give an analytic model of, infact, its worse than that. Its fundamentally impossible to predict the climate to any reasonable accuracy because its a chaotic system.

I believe he's trying to say that recent climate change is a result of space based interference, solar maxima/minima. Thing is that really doesnt explain anything at all, I'm not dumb enough to say CO2=all climate problems but its a substantially bigger contributor than the sun is at the moment, hell, the moon processing closer to the earth probably has more effect than the sun does
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mipegg wrote:

Climate is far too complicated to give an analytic model of, infact, its worse than that. Its fundamentally impossible to predict the climate to any reasonable accuracy because its a chaotic system.


Got beat saying exactly what I was going to say. xD

I think there is a reported 40% failure rate with weather, isn't there?
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The Sun's, and the Galactic radiation has been changing the climates of all the planets in our solar system. Weather is not a chaotic system. Weather is part of cycle, therefore somewhat, but not completely predictable.
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I never really cared. I just say "fuck it" and walk out of the house.... Lol
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Lisu wrote:


mipegg wrote:

Climate is far too complicated to give an analytic model of, infact, its worse than that. Its fundamentally impossible to predict the climate to any reasonable accuracy because its a chaotic system.


Got beat saying exactly what I was going to say. xD

I think there is a reported 40% failure rate with weather, isn't there?


Depends, its a chaotic driven system. For like next day forcast its pretty ok but the errors grow exponentially with time, infact even worse than a simple exponential. 40% ish for 5 days sounds pretty decent.
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demongurrl13 wrote:

I never really cared. I just say "fuck it" and walk out of the house.... Lol


I said that this morning when I couldn't find my umbrella...ended up in the girls bathroom under the dryer again, shoeless and trying to dry my socks and shoes and pants (I left my pants on).

Warm socks and pants feel good though.
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I think internet and all electrical sources might makes this world crazy. I hear about people who are allergic to everything from cell phones and internet traffic and such. Maybe I am too >.<
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Firstly, have you read any scientific papers at all before claiming that the scientific community is setting an "agenda"?

I'm tired of people coming on the internet complaining about how science "lies" when they have minimal scientific knowledge.

Secondly, human activities have affected the atmosphere before, specifically the ozone layer, the use of CFC has created a huge ozone hole near Antarctica and thinned the ozone layers elsewhere, that's why you see increased amount of Skin Cancer diagnosis. The Sun affect life on Earth too, obviously, because of its dangerous rays and heat, bushfire occur in Australia EVERY summer.

So climate change is caused by the combination of both the Sun's solar activity and humans' unnatural activities (specifically the release of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere).

Why does it have to be one or the other? Depression can be caused by chemical imbalance or environmental factors or both. The Earth's climate can be affected by the Sun and human activities, it doesn't need just one reason.

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