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Posted 7/11/13
Whether your statement is true or not, I don't feel any particular way about it. It is what it is.
Posted 7/18/13
Was watching "My name is Earl" about this, your answer is in that episode (whatever episode that was)
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Posted 8/6/13 , edited 8/6/13

Lisu wrote:


mipegg wrote:

Climate is far too complicated to give an analytic model of, infact, its worse than that. Its fundamentally impossible to predict the climate to any reasonable accuracy because its a chaotic system.


Got beat saying exactly what I was going to say. xD

I think there is a reported 40% failure rate with weather, isn't there?


Weather is causal, which means it can be predicted but the amount of computing power to analyze the planet then predict the outcomes would be absolutely ridiculous. The weather is a very complex and dynamic system and can't be analyzed by a single/one-time measurement.
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Posted 8/6/13

bluerunner wrote:

The world is going to do what the world has done since the dawn of time, change. It doesn't matter what we do. The Dinosaurs didn't drive SUV's, yet they are still not around are they?

Nope.

The world just changed on em and moved on, just like it will with us sooner or later.


Humanity can control its future I don't understand your idea that it is fated. For example, if an asteroid would/is coming to impact Earth, we can develop instruments that can alter or neutralize the threat of that asteroid.
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Posted 8/6/13
I stopped believing the lies years ago the weather in Texas never changes can shorts in middle of December
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Posted 8/6/13

Rajyrr wrote:

You realize there's only one solution to this problem, right? The cows must die. All of them. Every last one of them. Bonafide bovine genocide. Otherwise, they'll overwhelm us with methane and superior numbers.

Just look at them. They're pure evil. Their hearts are the darkest darkness. Their flesh delicious .. I mean .. LOOK AT THEM PLOTTING. IT'S THEM OR US!



Or eat more fruits, veggies, and grains instead of meat. It is more efficient food energy wise and transport energy wise too.

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Posted 8/6/13

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Secondly, human activities have affected the atmosphere before, specifically the ozone layer, the use of CFC has created a huge ozone hole near Antarctica and thinned the ozone layers elsewhere, that's why you see increased amount of Skin Cancer diagnosis. The Sun affect life on Earth too, obviously, because of its dangerous rays and heat, bushfire occur in Australia EVERY summer.

So climate change is caused by the combination of both the Sun's solar activity and humans' unnatural activities (specifically the release of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere).




Wait... Wait...

How is our activity unnatural if we exist in nature???


sophisticated tool making.

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Posted 8/6/13

Kelliher89 wrote:


CLarose wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:


Secondly, human activities have affected the atmosphere before, specifically the ozone layer, the use of CFC has created a huge ozone hole near Antarctica and thinned the ozone layers elsewhere, that's why you see increased amount of Skin Cancer diagnosis. The Sun affect life on Earth too, obviously, because of its dangerous rays and heat, bushfire occur in Australia EVERY summer.

So climate change is caused by the combination of both the Sun's solar activity and humans' unnatural activities (specifically the release of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere).




Wait... Wait...

How is our activity unnatural if we exist in nature???


sophisticated tool making.



How is that not natural if its occurring smack in the middle of nature? Hahaha. If evolution is a natural process how is developing an advanced intellect and creating sophisticated tools not just as natural???
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Posted 8/7/13

dingofoxman wrote:

I am curious to see how many people out there are observing the complete failure from the scientific community who are paid to ****ing monitor it, being honest about drastic climate change that doesn't want to be throughlly discussed or researched, but blamed on things that do not apply itself to reality or science but sure suites powerful shitty peoples agendas..and how people refusing to see this affects people who are noticing it?

Either this is Space doing this which is affecting the weather, which is part of a cycle

We are doing it (different technologies besides schlar exist research it)

Something is affecting the planet which is foreign to us
Somethis IS affecting the planet, Its called global warming, pollution, which is NOT foreign to us.

Not sure what it is because all three things have inconsistencies that are not fully explained.
Probably because weather prediction is so difficult, It maybe, at the time of the weather report that the weather looked the way it did, however weather is constantly changing, the only things that can be certain, If there is a major weather front heading in a certain direction, and there are reports of whatever evidence of what the weather front has in store for you, then the reporting is accurate.

You can have all the scientific machines and minds, but just looking outside and seeing clouds gathering and darkening is s sure sign that precipitation is not to far off, or like out here in Southern California, it's bright and likely going to be HOT outside.
That's what makes it interesting and having others insight makes the journey of learning much more a worth while experience.
There is no intent to lie to the public about the weather, it's just that weather can be unstable, and hard to lock down.

Negative responds will be ignored (that doesn't mean difference of opinion or sarcasm, it means being an uneducated asshole with nothing nice to say)


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Posted 8/14/13
A majority of the population isn't going to believe that global warming/cooling is happening until something horrible happens, like how people freak out about guns after a major shooting. That's how the majority of the population works. I do believe that the government needs more informed individuals in office that will actually do something to reduce carbon footprints and increase spending on sustainable resources like geothermal, wave power, and wind power- not just solar which isn't as cost effective. But that will never happen in the United States because people who get voted into office have to use terms that a majority of the population will understand or they won't get elected...
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Posted 8/18/13

GayAsianBoy wrote:

Firstly, have you read any scientific papers at all before claiming that the scientific community is setting an "agenda"?

I'm tired of people coming on the internet complaining about how science "lies" when they have minimal scientific knowledge.

Secondly, human activities have affected the atmosphere before, specifically the ozone layer, the use of CFC has created a huge ozone hole near Antarctica and thinned the ozone layers elsewhere, that's why you see increased amount of Skin Cancer diagnosis. The Sun affect life on Earth too, obviously, because of its dangerous rays and heat, bushfire occur in Australia EVERY summer.

So climate change is caused by the combination of both the Sun's solar activity and humans' unnatural activities (specifically the release of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere).

Why does it have to be one or the other? Depression can be caused by chemical imbalance or environmental factors or both. The Earth's climate can be affected by the Sun and human activities, it doesn't need just one reason.



thank god you were here with your, clearly, vastly superior scientific knowledge to set us all straight about how a stable chaotic system works....
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Posted 8/27/13
The only lies are those who say it's doesn't exist.
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Posted 8/27/13


so exactly what is the average temp?
it looks to me like we have a LONG way to go before we are truly above normal

its kinda funny how you can cherry pick a tiny little bit of data and make it say whatever you want.
i stopped believing in this cultist mumbo jumbo 25 years ago when they discovered that the hole in the ozone was more than likely a naturally occurring phenomenon and then banned aerosols 10 years later to "stop our ozone from disappearing!".
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Posted 8/28/13
At this point, is anyone doing anything about it right now? People are aware of it, but it seems like no one gives a damn.
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Posted 12/3/13
I hate it. I fucking hate being lied to about the climate. What is in my food, Chemtrails ect
only in america though.
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