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'Racist' Duke fraternity party angers Asians
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Jikkle wrote:



Your never going to eliminate it from the human condition as it's part of just being human.

As much as we like to think we're far more advanced then we were thousands of years ago we aren't. Humans still feel and act the same way they did when they were wearing togas in Greece.

We're far more knowledgeable today then we were long ago but we're none the wiser for it.


Why do you assume that it cannot be eliminated from the human condition?

What makes you think that we cannot increase our wisdom?
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I'm Filam that considers myself "Asian." I think it's offensive and racist despite the fact it was only meant to be a joke. Reading the posts here are mindnumbing lol..... I don't like what is considered part of normal life in Asian countries to be labeled as some oriental thing AND a joke, which what exactly happened in this party. This cultural degradation is what mostly accounts for the racism. Glad their ASA is trying to make this case known though.
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When I read stories like this, it makes me ashamed to be a part of the same species. For such an "evolved" people, we act pretty primitive at times. Such actions are nowhere near humorous and to hear people claim that it's not racist, is just plain disgusting and somewhat concerning. It makes me wonder where we're heading as a society when things such as this are treated as a trivial joke? Reminds me of that black people party that was thrown at some college. Just as tasteless.

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Dude, just drop the act. I can't believe you're this stupid...


Having an ideological disagreement isn't grounds for doubting one's intelligence.

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That's not racism folks, that's just a funny play on words for a themed party. Racism comes from a place of anger, hatred, and fear. This was just utilizing funny stereotypes to promote a fun time at a college party. People get butthurt over the simplest things nowadays. Consider yourself lucky you were not born 100 years ago, cause if you are offended by this then you would not survive a day back in the day.
I guess that means if I throw a can at a black person, I can tell them

"Aye! you had it worst in the 17th century. If you can't handle this stuff what are you going to do if you traveled back in time??"
Posted 2/12/13
I saw this post on Yahoo a couple of weeks ago. Over there, the majority of people thought Asians were overreacting, and getting too touchy. The majority of people who said that were white.

Here however, it seems most people think it is racist (as do I, and I am not Asian).

It might be a joke, but if you are on the receiving end of it, it is not funny.
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If I remember correctly, a school up on the east coast did have a "Black Party". They dressed up as gangstas, prostitutes, black face, the whole 9. There was a bit of a storm but not much because it was "all in good fun."
Whether your offended or not, at the end of the day, it should scare you a bit. These same people will be out there in the world making decisions affecting many in a few years.
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It just amazes me how people just look at the party itself and say "wellll they are just wearing straw hats and kimonos". Look at the e-mail. That's the reason why this is even seen as it is. When they wrote that they have clearly stated their intentions. Do I need to show it in a context more clearly with blacks, hispanics for people to see?

I can't believe people are antagonizing them for being offended,

"Ugh you're offended, how could you!"

haha WOW

Goomoonryong wrote:

It was a joke....a racist joke..but still a joke. I don't think it came from a place of hate so I wouldn't be very offended if I was Asian. I mean frat boys have never been very concerned with being PC. I'm of Irish descent but I don't get upset on St. Patricks Day when frats dress up like leprachauns and drink green beer till they vomit and act like thats what my cultures about. People were just trying to have some fun.
And as an imaginary asian person, you also probably don't mind it when people go "ching chong CHING CHONNNNNGGGG" when you walk down the street. If you are trivializing your own experience, that's on you. Don't expects others to comply just because you weren't upset
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If I remember correctly, a school up on the east coast did have a "Black Party". They dressed up as gangstas, prostitutes, black face, the whole 9. There was a bit of a storm but not much because it was "all in good fun."
Whether your offended or not, at the end of the day, it should scare you a bit. These same people will be out there in the world making decisions affecting many in a few years.


That is truly frightening isn't it?
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My honest opinion is that I don't find this racist. I find it quite funny, the first time I've seen the "Herro, ching chang" was on South Park... that one episode and Cartmen is wearing a Chinese triangular hat.
It has lost its comedic effect on me though.


I think that people nowadays are too uptight about being politically correct... (not aiming at anyone in general, just in society), any jokes you make can be passed off as "racism" or "hate". It's very annoying.
Yes, I love a peaceful world, but not a peaceful world without humour, thank you very much. I love race jokes, sarcasm and satire.


I mean, a lot of people say... "OH America is a fat country", yet nobody bats an eyelash at that statement--that to me would be considered racist, but nobody seems to care. But if it's Asians or Blacks getting jokes... people would suddenly go "Oh it's so racist"...

Racism to me would be something like if Asians were excluded from that particular party or when people make comments about "illegal" immigrants--saying things like, "Why don't they come the legal way?" or "Those dirty mexicans stealing our jobs"... those are the things I find racist, harmful to society and should be changed.

Jokes about Asian accents or culture aren't racism to me, they're just humour even though people can't seem to come up with their own.

I mean, I made a joke about American cuisine the other day when someone asked what's your favourite American Cuisine?
And I answered... what is American cuisine? McDonald's?
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lucypearl81 wrote:

If I remember correctly, a school up on the east coast did have a "Black Party". They dressed up as gangstas, prostitutes, black face, the whole 9. There was a bit of a storm but not much because it was "all in good fun."
Whether your offended or not, at the end of the day, it should scare you a bit. These same people will be out there in the world making decisions affecting many in a few years.


It's not much of a difference from how it is now. If we actually had intelligent and thoughtful people in various positions of power the world wouldn't be as screwed up as it is. Those idiots will just replace the old ones.


GayAsianBoy wrote:

My honest opinion is that I don't find this racist. I find it quite funny, the first time I've seen the "Herro, ching chang" was on South Park... that one episode and Cartmen is wearing a Chinese triangular hat.
It has lost its comedic effect on me though.


I think that people nowadays are too uptight about being politically correct... (not aiming at anyone in general, just in society), any jokes you make can be passed off as "racism" or "hate". It's very annoying.
Yes, I love a peaceful world, but not a peaceful world without humour, thank you very much. I love race jokes, sarcasm and satire.


I mean, a lot of people say... "OH America is a fat country", yet nobody bats an eyelash at that statement--that to me would be considered racist, but nobody seems to care. But if it's Asians or Blacks getting jokes... people would suddenly go "Oh it's so racist"...

Racism to me would be something like if Asians were excluded from that particular party or when people make comments about "illegal" immigrants--saying things like, "Why don't they come the legal way?" or "Those dirty mexicans stealing our jobs"... those are the things I find racist, harmful to society and should be changed.

Jokes about Asian accents or culture aren't racism to me, they're just humour even though people can't seem to come up with their own.

I mean, I made a joke about American cuisine the other day when someone asked what's your favourite American Cuisine?
And I answered... what is American cuisine? McDonald's?


In my opinion the jokes are racist too the only difference is the intent behind them. I think if people are trying to insult people and get them angry or out of any sort of malice then it is something that should be taken offensively. If the joke is meant just to entertain or be funny then people should be able to just laugh it off and find no real harm in it. Obviously of course even with simple jokes meant to be funny there are the people that are sensitive or hung up on being politically correct and will get offended anyway. This party was indeed racist but should people be offended? Meh that is up to them on how they want to take it. It was certainly a bad idea and wasn't given much consideration as to how people would feel about it though. I think the only way I would find a party like that truly entertaining is if it wasn't specific to one race and it was just a stereotype party where anyone could make fun of a different race of their choosing. It would have a much better chance of allowing everyone to get a laugh in and not have people feeling singled out.
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Reminds me of the Mexican Party...Haha.
Btw I'm Hispanic with Mexican relatives...is it racist? I don't find it racist...however, the signs those two at the center held up...Are kind of offensive.

Freedom of speech, what are you gonna do, right?


Reminds me of the foreclosure party that real estate company had.

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It just amazes me how people just look at the party itself and say "wellll they are just wearing straw hats and kimonos". Look at the e-mail. That's the reason why this is even seen as it is. When they wrote that they have clearly stated their intentions. Do I need to show it in a context more clearly with blacks, hispanics for people to see?

I can't believe people are antagonizing them for being offended,

"Ugh you're offended, how could you!"

haha WOW

Goomoonryong wrote:

It was a joke....a racist joke..but still a joke. I don't think it came from a place of hate so I wouldn't be very offended if I was Asian. I mean frat boys have never been very concerned with being PC. I'm of Irish descent but I don't get upset on St. Patricks Day when frats dress up like leprachauns and drink green beer till they vomit and act like thats what my cultures about. People were just trying to have some fun.
And as an imaginary asian person, you also probably don't mind it when people go "ching chong CHING CHONNNNNGGGG" when you walk down the street. If you are trivializing your own experience, that's on you. Don't expects others to comply just because you weren't upset


I'd say that I find this matter very trivial when put into perspective. I can understand how people of both Asian and non Asian descent could take offence at that email and the party's theme. But my point was that it does not seem to be coming from a place of anger or hatred. Some idiot frat guys needed a theme for a party and chose an Asian theme and sent out an email that was in poor taste. If I went to that school I might log a complaint to the Greek Life official in the administration but I wouldn't get worked up over it. Its not worth getting all upset and offended over cause the originators meant no harm, the party wasn't thrown to denegrate Asian people, simply to give people an excuse to dress up and drink. Getting all offended isn't worth the stress and effort. Yeah it wasn't PC to do but it wasn't a hate crime either.
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When I read stories like this, it makes me ashamed to be a part of the same species. For such an "evolved" people, we act pretty primitive at times. Such actions are nowhere near humorous and to hear people claim that it's not racist, is just plain disgusting and somewhat concerning. It makes me wonder where we're heading as a society when things such as this are treated as a trivial joke? Reminds me of that black people party that was thrown at some college. Just as tasteless.



But the shit that goes on every single St. Patrick's Day isn't racist right? You and everyone else only finds this distasteful because the people being misrepresented aren't white. Damn double standards.

Such disgusting hypocrisy.
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It's sorta racist, but not that much.

I see where your coming from especially with the 2nd example, but i just don't take it seriously. I usually just ignore racism nowadays. My generation kinda ignores racism and are comfortable enough with each other that we just don't take offense anymore (which is a good thing). Do you know how many caucasian people I know that is in my high school that call out to their white friends and say "hey *insert n word* get over here." Do I care, nope.

I'd say the only thing that is racist is the 2nd example with that meme added.

Also I'd just like to show an example of unreasonable racism that my friend showed me yesterday. So the term "u mad bro," is racist now. It teven appeared on the news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm30cepvMQA
Posted 2/12/13 , edited 2/12/13

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LosingOrbit wrote:

When I read stories like this, it makes me ashamed to be a part of the same species. For such an "evolved" people, we act pretty primitive at times. Such actions are nowhere near humorous and to hear people claim that it's not racist, is just plain disgusting and somewhat concerning. It makes me wonder where we're heading as a society when things such as this are treated as a trivial joke? Reminds me of that black people party that was thrown at some college. Just as tasteless.



But the shit that goes on every single St. Patrick's Day isn't racist right? You and everyone else only finds this distasteful because the people being misrepresented aren't white. Damn double standards.

Such disgusting hypocrisy.


First of all, what would make you assume that the only reason I find this distasteful is because the people being mistreated aren't white? What would even bring you to that conclusion? When it comes to bias, I don't just focus on people within my own race, but in others as well. Secondly, I"m aware of the fact that St. Patrick's Day is stereotypical as to why I don't celebrate it. It is wrong, period. I don't care whose committing the offense.
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