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'Racist' Duke fraternity party angers Asians
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There is no excuse for racism.
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So I read this whole thread so far and noticed a few things.

The invitation was unarguably rude, but the party was just a themed dress-up party. If the invitation had been written for a "cultural celebration" we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's not like they burned an effigy or anything. Also, I'm not sure if the invitation technically counts as racism or cultural bias, because it is making fun of an accent, which is learned, rather than innate physical characteristics. In poor taste? Yep. Offensive? Yep. Should the university start a discussion with the fraternity regarding appropriate behavior? Probably. Is it worthwhile to complain to the fraternity representatives? Probably, although I heard they are douchebags.


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No, I don't condone violence of any kind. You're just trying to start an argument so you can play a victim. If you want to use your freedom of speech to say you want it censored, I am allowed to use mine to tell you, in all respect, to go fuck a rake sideways.


Also, I have a cyber crush on lainfixie because he says stuff like this. I have a pretty good imagination, but I'm at a loss for how to actually make that happen.
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Also, I have a cyber crush on lainfixie because he says stuff like this. I have a pretty good imagination, but I'm at a loss for how to actually make that happen.




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People hide behind the "Learn to take a joke!" or "It's just a joke." lines so often that they've practically lost all value. If I had a nickle for every crappy black joke that was immediately followed up with "Don't get mad, i'm not serious." i'd be able to buy the Cleveland Browns. I'll get mad if I damned well want to.



You sure can, but it doesn't sound like it's getting you very far.


If you're aggressive enough it gets you a lot farther than you'd think.
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I'm ASIAN and I'm FUCKING OFFENDED by it.

How would white american people feel if people of other ethnicities decided to have an "American Prime" party and come dressed up in jeans, white shirts, and straw hats and talked like hillbillies to each other.

The boondocks isn't how america wants to be known by the rest of the world. The same is true for the every other country.
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I'm ASIAN and I'm FUCKING OFFENDED by it.

How would white american people feel if people of other ethnicities decided to have an "American Prime" party and come dressed up in jeans, white shirts, and straw hats and talked like hillbillies to each other.

The boondocks isn't how america wants to be known by the rest of the world. The same is true for the every other country.


Honestly, the only Americans who'd care are the politicians and fox news. America doesn't have a single identity it can share across all it's people. Things that are distinctly American that you've pointed out are very specific to the areas of the united states that do not have internet or computers.

on a side note, we used to have entire school events based upon that stereo type. We also had 'Camo day' back in high school, and the entire school came in with their turkey hunting gear on.


For those of you who aren't familiar, turkey's have extremely good eyesight, so the cam you wear to hunt them looks like something you'd see on a jungle sniper stereotypical outfit. all of the hanging grassy trim included.
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First of all, what would make you assume that the only reason I find this distasteful is because the people being mistreated aren't white? What would even bring you to that conclusion? When it comes to bias, I don't just focus on people within my own race, but in others as well. Secondly, I"m aware of the fact that St. Patrick's Day is stereotypical as to why I don't celebrate it. It is wrong, period. I don't care whose committing the offense.


Well good on you. I should amend my "You and everyone else only find this..." and make it "Everyone else only finds this distasteful..."

I didn't quote you to make a attack directed solely at you though, I did it because your quote was a nice summary of what all the other forefinger rubbers were saying. And there's still a lot of hypocrisy floating around here. I'll be expecting to see someone create a thread on St. Patrick's Day denouncing it. Would be interesting to see the results considering that it's culturally acceptable, unlike this.
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Honestly, the only Americans who'd care are the politicians and fox news. America doesn't have a single identity it can share across all it's people. Things that are distinctly American that you've pointed out are very specific to the areas of the united states that do not have internet or computers.

on a side note, we used to have entire school events based upon that stereo type. We also had 'Camo day' back in high school, and the entire school came in with their turkey hunting gear on.


For those of you who aren't familiar, turkey's have extremely good eyesight, so the cam you wear to hunt them looks like something you'd see on a jungle sniper stereotypical outfit. all of the hanging grassy trim included.




I'll make this plain and clear. This particular event symbolizes that Asia (East Asia Specifically) is an area where everyone is uneducated, involved in agriculture, void of modern technology, etc. It's fucking called "Asian Prime" right?!

I swear Americans are so fucking illiterate when it comes to symbolism! See a pyramid on the dollar, they go illuminati conspiracy and shit!
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That is why free speech needs to be limited, racism should be illegal.


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i saw this on yahoo news and on youtube. I'm not sure what to take from this it's racist but no one was hurt still i guess it was right they got dealt with.
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shadow_grey wrote:
How would white american people feel if people of other ethnicities decided to have an "American Prime" party and come dressed up in jeans, white shirts, and straw hats and talked like hillbillies to each other.


You are totally justified in your offense at that tasteless party, but the douchebags who threw it would ever get why. They wouldn't mind the situation you describe above either, because Americans think we are all special exceptions to stereotypes. Also, we find great pleasure in exposing our shame by putting national embarrassments on televion.


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I don't think it's racist. This is just a bad joke. Real racism looks completely different. You know when someone is racist when their action is intended to harm or demoralize another based on race. Something like this by itself is not racism. Had they done this as a cruel joke, I would understand, but this was something they planned and executed within the standards of their own isolated community. The only reason we know about this, is the Internet, in which everyone is an audience... Therefore, this was not intended to be racism but a joke something fun to make light of. As your post states, they based the theme of the party from another joke and that joke happened to make fun of late North Korean leader Kim Jong Il. Slavery was real racism. Lynching is racism. The disproportionate number of blacks in prison is racism. Segregation was racism. Japanese detention camps was racism. The targeting and genocide of Jews in WWII was racism. It pains me when people take ANYTHING race related and say, "that is racism". Doing so will trivialize real claims of racism and race-based discrimination.

If this is racist, then we should just stop making jokes about race altogether. If you cannot handle the joke, that's one thing, but to call it racist is just going too far in my opinion.
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phogan wrote:

Rather than getting offended why not learn to laugh, cause it's really pretty stupid. There is no shortage of equally insensitive events, some are even holidays. If they want to punish these students and not be branded hypocrites they will have a lot of parties etc to curtail.

People aren't born with culture, they grow into it.


If we all 'learnt to laugh' at stuff we find offensive instead of trying to change things, the world would be an awful place. It being intended as a joke does not make it okay. The fact that there are tons of other similar things going on does not make it okay. Some people not finding it as offensive as others does not make it okay.
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phogan wrote:

Rather than getting offended why not learn to laugh, cause it's really pretty stupid. There is no shortage of equally insensitive events, some are even holidays. If they want to punish these students and not be branded hypocrites they will have a lot of parties etc to curtail.

People aren't born with culture, they grow into it.


If we all 'learnt to laugh' at stuff we find offensive instead of trying to change things, the world would be an awful place. It being intended as a joke does not make it okay. The fact that there are tons of other similar things going on does not make it okay. Some people not finding it as offensive as others does not make it okay.


But simply "not being okay" doesn't make the party illegal or a crime against humanity either, which real racism is... This party was not politically correct, it was definitely distasteful, but it wasn't even covert racism. This was a child making a face at a crowd, you can bet there is one person in that crowd who will want to sock them in the mouth, but at the end of the day, that's it, someone got knocked out. Racism often causes death and disenfranchisement and is a tool of an inhuman to strip someone of their right to humanity...
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Here's my take on this.

First of all, No Asians, or any other races for that matter, were physically harmed by this party. No one was denying them admission (not that any were in attendance) or harming them in any visible way. Any harm was indirect and presumably unintentional. Its that kind of racism that the victims actually have some power over. Just as they have the power to do things like this, you have the power to ignore them, and not let it get to you. I'm not Asian, so I can't speak for any of them, but I've been the victim of more than a few bullies. If I'd let every cruel joke or insult get to me, however untrue they were, I would probably be in a mental institution by now. But because I ignored them, I turned out just fine, for the most part anyway.

You know that phrase "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"? Well, I guess that's basically what I'm trying to say. If you are hurt by this, its because you're letting yourself be hurt. It is just as much their right to say and do stupid stuff like list as it is your right to ignore them. Is this racist? Probably. Is it in bad taste? Certainly. Would I ever be a part of this? HELL NO!

Congratulations if you were actually able to make sense of this.
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