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Does Marijuana Make You Violent?
Posted 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


AruarianDance wrote:


have you ever smoked it?



No, why would I want to do that?


because it might help you judge it's use a lot better than believing in pro drug war good willing Christian mothers demonizing organic herbs and linking them to brutality?

most of the people I know who smoke it eat a lot healthier, think healthier, understand things better, are very good at creative work and are nice people to be around. It's not a hard drug, a gateway drug or something that will significantly damage your health, it's a mood enhancer.
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Posted 2/13/13 , edited 2/13/13

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So no actual violence involved?

Also, yes. It was.
My comment is on the first page. Your new links weren't posted until the third page.



It could be, that is up to you to decide.

I was referring to your post that said "Has it not been sufficiently done throughout this thread already?"
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Posted 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

So no actual violence involved?

Also, yes. It was.
My comment is on the first page. Your new links weren't posted until the third page.



It could be, that is up to you to decide.

I was referring to your post that said "Has it not been sufficiently done throughout this thread already?"


Why did you do that? Your original response was for me to "prove it", in which you quoted my original post.

And either it does involve violence, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then it's irrelevant to the topic.
If it does, then it has already been disproven in this thread. You lose.
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because it might help you judge it's use a lot better than believing in pro drug war good willing Christian mothers demonizing organic herbs and linking them to brutality?

most of the people I know who smoke it eat a lot healthier, think healthier, understand things better, are very good at creative work and are nice people to be around. It's not a hard drug, a gateway drug or something that will significantly damage your health, it's a mood enhancer.


No, it wouldn't help me judge it any better than listening to academics who know a great deal more about the subject than I do. You should do the same and cite credible sources if you want me to believe you.
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I think we should not belittle or act mean to the OP. There is a lot of mis information about marijuana, and as I once heard, if a lie is repeated enough times it can be believed. Studies like the ones I have linked in earlier posts clearly show the potential of cannabis as a treatment for cancer, leukemia and other ailments.

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Posted 2/13/13 , edited 2/13/13

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No, it wouldn't help me judge it any better than listening to academics who know a great deal more about the subject than me. You should do the same.


What makes you think academics are above lying in order to forward their own agenda?
Besides, having first hand experience will ALWAYS lead to a better understanding of something than not having first hand experience. Fact.
Posted 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


AruarianDance wrote:


because it might help you judge it's use a lot better than believing in pro drug war good willing Christian mothers demonizing organic herbs and linking them to brutality?

most of the people I know who smoke it eat a lot healthier, think healthier, understand things better, are very good at creative work and are nice people to be around. It's not a hard drug, a gateway drug or something that will significantly damage your health, it's a mood enhancer.


No, it wouldn't help me judge it any better than listening to academics who know a great deal more about the subject than me. You should do the same.


you see, I can find hundreds of thousands of documents which negate silly propaganda sites where families blame a herb for violence. how about finding out yourself? why do you have to listen to bullshit? it's does minute damage to the body if you smoke it in large quantities and have become attached to smoking it. I smoke it once or twice a week and I'm healthier than I was watching shit loads of tv and eating genetically modified foods. If you already have a healthy lifestyle weed only benefits you.
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Posted 2/13/13 , edited 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


AruarianDance wrote:


because it might help you judge it's use a lot better than believing in pro drug war good willing Christian mothers demonizing organic herbs and linking them to brutality?

most of the people I know who smoke it eat a lot healthier, think healthier, understand things better, are very good at creative work and are nice people to be around. It's not a hard drug, a gateway drug or something that will significantly damage your health, it's a mood enhancer.


No, it wouldn't help me judge it any better than listening to academics who know a great deal more about the subject than me. You should do the same.


Often when citing a academic or study demonizing marijuana it is prudent to list where their funding came from, for often it is groups like alcohol and tobacco companies that finance groups and studies in a bid to demonize cannabis.
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also they're throwing convicted criminals, rapists and hard drug users out of jails or giving them lighter sentences to lock up cannabis smokers, I mean really?! the same people that push the harsh drug laws are the people who are out in Afghanistan protecting poppy fields. There agenda is to have you believe it's detrimental. smoke it and you'll know it isn't... what better evidence is there?
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What makes you think academics are above lying in order to forward their own agenda?
Besides, having first hand experience will ALWAYS lead to a better understanding of something than not having first hand experience. Fact.


Where is the proof that shows they are lying?

And fyi, they have much more first hand experience than you, being scientists that actually study these topics for a living, so you should accept their opinions unless you have an equally credible source that proves otherwise.
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Posted 2/13/13 , edited 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


What makes you think academics are above lying in order to forward their own agenda?
Besides, having first hand experience will ALWAYS lead to a better understanding of something than not having first hand experience. Fact.


Where is the proof that shows they are lying?

And fyi, they have much more first hand experience than you, being scientists that actually study these topics for a living, so you should accept their opinions unless you have an equally credible source that proves otherwise.


Has sufficient proof not been presented already?

And why should I accept words that directly contradict everything both I and everyone I know who has come in contact with the substance has experienced?
I know what I've experienced. And my acquaintances know what they've experienced. So what reason do we have to believe in what we know is not true?
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Posted 2/13/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


What makes you think academics are above lying in order to forward their own agenda?
Besides, having first hand experience will ALWAYS lead to a better understanding of something than not having first hand experience. Fact.


Where is the proof that shows they are lying?

And fyi, they have much more first hand experience than you, being scientists that actually study these topics for a living, so you should accept their opinions unless you have an equally credible source that proves otherwise.


Scientists get funding for studies, it is important to understand where the funding came from to avoid any bias.
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Scientists get funding for studies, it is important to understand where the funding came from to avoid any bias.


If you can prove that any of the academic sources have bias, I will believe you.
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Does marijuana make you violent, absolutely not. I've been smoking it for years now and never once felt violent. Hungry sure, but I've never said to myself, "Hey you know what would be a great idea, getting into a fight or blowing something up." Now granted I've done my fair share of stupid things while high. Honestly if you think marijuana makes you violent, then you must be getting your sources from the 1920's/1930's title "Reefer Madness."
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No, it wouldn't help me judge it any better than listening to academics who know a great deal more about the subject than I do. You should do the same and cite credible sources if you want me to believe you.



1. http://www.benefitsofmarijuana.com/benefits.php |Outlining physical, and psychological benefits of the use of Marijuana.


2, http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/health/marijuana-research-roundup | The high's and Low's of marijuana use (not once is "violence, aggression or negative behavior mentioned")


3. http://www.businessinsider.com/health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana-2012-11?op=1 | Health Benefits of medical marijuana (Once again, no mention of violence, aggression, or other nonsense.)


There you go Seth, I just posted credible sources and cited my claims properly. The above three links are from separate sources, each with their own viewpoint on it.

Also adding: http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm - "In general, after using marijuana a person experiences a sedating effect, which makes the drug less likely to cause violence in users than other substances such as alcohol and stimulants"


"Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use marijuana regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all. It is unclear why this is the case, but it may be because people with violent tendencies can also have a range of other psychosocial problems and are therefore more likely to use marijuana."


So if someone is violent and then uses pot, it's the weed's fault right?



Edit: What's funny is that Lordseth23 probably won't even read this, and if he does he will quickly explain that my sources are liars and drug pushers or some psycho babble bullshit.
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