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There can be a bad series with good fanservice, there can be a good series with no fanservice, there can also be a good series with good fanservice. It all exists! Plot has nothing at all to do with fanservice. All fanservice is there for is to enhance romantic and sexual parts of a plot. Straight men like scantly clad women, it's like the ultimate condiment for us. Adding ketchup to crap won't maike it taste any better. Adding ketchup to fries, to hamburgers, to hotdogs makes them taste a lot better, if you like ketchup. It is the same thing with fan service and ecchi stuff, it makes already good shows better, it does nothing for bad shows.
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worst series has to be to love ru i gave up on it and skipped to final 2 episodes so boring
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I love Ecchi!!!


The answer is Araragi!

All bow to the undisputed pervert king.
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MountainMew sort of touched on this thoroughly but I thought I would extrapolate a little bit as he's the only one who has shown to have this sentiment when I feel it should be the most acceptable answer to your question.




The irony is that you're pointing the finger at folks who reference perverted anime as "having no plot" because you believe they do have plot, when you're sort of being naive about the statement yourself (purposefully just for the sake of argument?).

When people say that there is "no" plot, it's 99.99999999999999% used as an exaggerator to effectively say "the plot is ridiculous/pointless/nonsensical/stupid/thin". Of course ecchi has a plot. All anime bad or good as a plot. You could pass "A provocative girl who is in love with an uncertain guy" as a plot. Is it by definition a plot? Sure. Is it an actual plot that most people would consider in this day an age a plot? No. Though, it stands to reason that some of this judgment is left to the viewer and it depends on which anime we're talking about.

All this being said, I dare someone to describe to me the plot of Hentai Prince and the Stony Cat. I utterly dare someone.
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Saving damsels in distress, one kiss at a time.
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AnimeKami wrote:

Saving damsels in distress, one kiss at a time.


moving the story on one pair of watermelons at a time
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Very true statements. I just spent the last 5 min. trying to come up with a detailed explanation for Henneko and all i come come up with is "A bunch of people using the wishes of a stony cat and have to face the consequences from those wishes". Truly a horrific show. Anyway, there are people who say if High School DxD had no ecchi it would be BETTER?? That must be a joke since thats the only thing i look for when watching it. You can say the same for Maken-ki i suppose but i enjoyed it because it actually can become interesting if it progresses next season.
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maffayoo wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

Saving damsels in distress, one kiss at a time.


moving the story on one pair of watermelons at a time




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Agreed Ecchi can have a decent plot sometimes but the fanservice gets so cliche
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Posted 6/16/13 , edited 6/16/13

rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:

Ecchi is such a broad definition that one can argue for ages as to what does and does not fit under that umbrella.

Well said. I'm not even sure how to start talking about this since there's no practical definition to run with.

I mean, there's a ton of shows out there with "ecchi" (fanservice) elements that I wouldn't actually call "ecchi" anime. It reminds me of that one Extra Credits video when they were talking about genres, and how first-person shooters weren't defined by first-person shooting because that'd mean Portal and Portal 2 were first-person shooters (they aren't).

So when someone talks about an "ecchi anime" to me that means ecchi is the focus of the anime, not that the anime contains nudity or fanservice. So shows like Elfen Lied can get loaded in a catapult and thrown as far from this discussion as the physics of catapults will allow. What does belong here are shows like Sekirei, Samurai Bride, etc.

By this definition, the more plot an anime has, the less likely it is to be categorically genrefied as ecchi. When it becomes less about the sexualized hijinks of conveniently quasi-naked women and more about something else, then the anime begins to leave the ecchi genre in favor of the something else genre while simply containing fanservice.

High School of the Dead and High School DxD are ecchi because it's a core aesthetic of the design, and it's a major reason why people are drawn to them. They can have as much plot as they like, but as long as the ecchi elements are a major focus of the series I think it's fair to call them an ecchi anime because that's what they're aiming for.

Air Gear, on the other hand (ignoring the OVAs for a moment), I'd call a fantasy sports anime. It has a lot of fanservice, but if you show up to every episode expecting your daily dose of ecchi you'll be disappointed a fair number of times. That's because the fanservice is used to make the show fun, but it's not a primary focus of the show overall.

Similarly I think there are a lot of anime categorized as "mecha" that actually aren't. I wouldn't consider Code Geass or Guilty Crown to be mecha anime because the mechs aren't particularly important to either one of them - you could replace the mechs in both shows with some other powerful object and nothing would change.

Now compare that to say Gundam, Evangelion, or Valvrave and it wouldn't work - in those shows the mechs are a major selling point just like ecchi is to anime like Ladies versus Butlers, Queen's Blade, or Seikon no Qwaser. These anime can contain plot, just like superhero movies can; it's just not the imperative element.

Does that make sense?

So when people say "ecchi anime doesn't have any plot" I think they mean "the plot isn't important in an ecchi anime, the boobs are." And they'd be right. That's what makes an ecchi anime an ecchi anime, you create a plot that has the maximum fanservice potential possible and run with it: ecchi anime are defined by having fanservice as their goal.

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I hope this rambling relates to the original question somehow because I've forgotten it.

PS: Whenever I see Maken-ki I think they're saying Minami-ke and I get really confused for a short while.
Posted 6/16/13
SAYING ECCHI HAS NO PLOT IS LIKE SAYING HENTAI HAS NO PLOT! oh wait...
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Doomsdaywolf wrote:

SAYING ECCHI HAS NO PLOT IS LIKE SAYING HENTAI HAS NO PLOT! oh wait...

Not sure if intended to validate or nullify.
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so ecchi has not plot? and here i thought such shows as
Highschool of the Dead
Highschool DxD
Tenchi Muyo! War on Geminar
Medaka Box
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Sankarea
Is This a Zombie?
Air Gear
The Familiar of Zero

and Omamori Himari
had really good plots but seing how ecchi's have no plots I guess I was wrong
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Interesting topic.

I like variety in my anime watching. For me, ecchi is not excluded based on any preconceived notions of whether or not is has a plot.

I try to give any series a chance regardless of its content.

I've found some gems based on this method imo. Elfen Lied, Highschool of the Dead, Strike Witches are a few I can think of at the moment.

If I enjoy watching it for what it is, then I'll continue, if not, it's move on to the next series.

But to skip a genre just because of some preconception of it? Pretty sad.

People miss out on some good anime by limiting themselves to genres imo.
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Posted 6/16/13

Doomsdaywolf wrote:

SAYING ECCHI HAS NO PLOT IS LIKE SAYING HENTAI HAS NO PLOT! oh wait...


ever watch F Force???

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