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Opinion are not equal.
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Posted 3/7/13

shuyi000 wrote:

Nothing is equal.


Exactly.
Posted 3/8/13 , edited 3/8/13

Hairbelly wrote:


shuyi000 wrote:

Nothing is equal.


Exactly.


Wrong. The concepts of better, worse, and best are relative. Opinions are not fact or truth that can be compared empirically therefore they all are equal.

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Opinions of value are grounded in fact and not emotion. Yet how I observe or react to a given circumstance is relative to my interpretation of reality. So to me it is fact and I will give my opinion as it relates to my frame of reference. It is up to the listener to decide whether or not my opinion is an informed one. It's been my observation that too many listeners are lazy and validate only the loudest opinions.
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Posted 3/8/13

VictorX1 wrote:


Hairbelly wrote:


shuyi000 wrote:

Nothing is equal.


Exactly.


Wrong. The concepts of better, worse, and best are relative. Opinions are not fact or truth that can be compared empirically therefore they all are equal.



Exactly.
Posted 3/9/13

Hairbelly wrote:


Exactly.





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JustineKo2 wrote:

Remember opinions are like buttholes. Everybody has one and they almost always stink. And since a butthole is a butthole is a butthole, all opinions are equal.


It so happens that some arseholes are less diseased than others, while others are much healthier or some arseholes are more malformed than other arseholes, there does not exist egality among anuses. Following your analogy, as some anuses can be judged as better than other anuses, thus there are some opinions that are better than other opinions, and as there are criterias to discriminate between arseholes, so too can we use an objective criteria to discriminate opinions, the better opinion is that which is more founded in reason and facts.


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Posted 3/9/13

VictorX1 wrote:



Wrong. The concepts of better, worse, and best are relative. Opinions are not fact or truth that can be compared empirically therefore they all are equal.



If you needed work done on the base of your skull and you received the opinions of your neurosurgeon and your plumber, would you assess them equally?
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Posted 3/9/13
Opinions on matters of fact (such as whether the sky is blue as a consequence of light scattering or its nature as an ice dome) are certainly not inherently equal. It may be one's opinion that light is coming more intensely through one window than the other, but a measurement of the windows' intensities will settle the matter more or less without question. These are statements with determinable truth values, and so cannot be treated as inherently equal. Some will be true, some will be false. The facts as determined through measurement and observation will decide which is which.

Opinions on matters which can never be truly broken down into facts and figures cannot have any substantive comparative value. The opinion that red is a better color than green is impossible to break down into figures and could never conceivably be stated as a fact, so it's impossible to confirm or refute. These are statements which have no determinable truth values, and so can be treated as inherently equal as a consequence. Agree or disagree at your leisure, in the end no one is any more correct than anyone else on such matters.

So when one says "I think the sky is blue because ice giants built a dome around the world", they're speaking on a matter of fact and thus their position carries a determinable truth value. No ice dome, no ice giants, assign a false truth value until evidence to the contrary emerges. But when someone says "Soi Fon is the most attractive character in Bleach", they're speaking on a matter of opinion. There is no way to definitively demonstrate that the statement is true or false, nor is it possible to demonstrate that any other character is the "most attractive". In essence, there is no correct answer to the question "Who is the most attractive Bleach character?", and so all answers carry equal weight.
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Posted 3/11/13

VictorX1 wrote:


Hairbelly wrote:


shuyi000 wrote:

Nothing is equal.


Exactly.


Wrong. The concepts of better, worse, and best are relative. Opinions are not fact or truth that can be compared empirically therefore they all are equal.



Relatively, they are also viewed as inequality.
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Posted 3/11/13 , edited 3/11/13

VictorX1 wrote:

Wrong. The concepts of better, worse, and best are relative. Opinions are not fact or truth that can be compared empirically therefore they all are equal.



No, opinions are only equal in the regard that we are all entitled to one. Other than that, they're all unequal.

EDIT: Except in cases of personal preference, such as favorite color.
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Posted 3/12/13
All opinions are equal because they are all subjective and have no factual or truthful weight since they cannot be measured.
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Posted 3/13/13

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

You have your opinion, I have my opinion!
This is a well used comment in this forum.

Let us look closer at this Ideal. First what this statement is insinuating that all opinions are equal.


Why does that statement insinuate that all opinions are equal? All I see being insinuated there is that the poster has no intention to defend his opinion.

Opinions are obviously not equal in terms of credibility, sensibility, value to society, etc. when they are based on evidence and can have measurable effects (such as differing opinions on policy-making).
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Opinions are neither equal nor unequal. Equality or Inequality asserts they can be measured versus something, which really is not the case.

You can have opinions which are more relevant to specific paradigms, but that would be consistency, not inequality.
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Posted 3/14/13

PaperPro wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

You have your opinion, I have my opinion!
This is a well used comment in this forum.

Let us look closer at this Ideal. First what this statement is insinuating that all opinions are equal.


Why does that statement insinuate that all opinions are equal? All I see being insinuated there is that the poster has no intention to defend his opinion.

Opinions are obviously not equal in terms of credibility, sensibility, value to society, etc. when they are based on evidence and can have measurable effects (such as differing opinions on policy-making).


in other words.. Opinions affect others... And so basless opinions can indeed have negitive affects on others.
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Actually, believe it or not, whether an opinion is baseless or not is indeed... an opinion. Look at logical nihilists, for instance, who don't even accept the assumption of logic. =p
Posted 3/17/13

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

That is like saying that the sky is blue because the sky is a Giant Ice dome like roof covering the earth.


That's not an opinion, that's a hypothesis.
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