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Posted 3/17/13

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That is like saying that the sky is blue because the sky is a Giant Ice dome like roof covering the earth.


That's not an opinion, that's a hypothesis.


Technically, a hypothesis is an opinion.

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion. Weird, nah?
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Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion. Weird, nah?


Nah, just incorrect again.
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all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions,

An opinion is a subjective belief, based on perspective, emotion, or a persons perception of something. Knowledge is based on fact and something that can be supported by empirical, repeatable evidence.
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ursae wrote:


TAO_Arecibo wrote:

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion. Weird, nah?


Nah, just incorrect again.


Rather than just say it's incorrect, explain why it's incorrect.
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Posted 3/17/13 , edited 3/17/13

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TAO_Arecibo wrote:

all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions,

An opinion is a subjective belief, based on perspective, emotion, or a persons perception of something.


Exactly. And because everything is a matter of perception (there is no such thing as escaping your own perspective), everything is technically subjective.


Knowledge is based on fact and something that can be supported by empirical, repeatable evidence.


Actually, empiricism isn't objectively true. Let me explain why.

Empiricism is based on the Correspondence Theory of Truth. However, the correspondence theory of truth is not fact, it's an assumption which is made for practical purposes. People, however, are under no obligation to accept it, if they choose not to. And if they choose not to, they don't have to accept empiricism at all.

This is most clear when discussing solipsism. What is solipsism? It's simply the realization that you can never provide proof or evidence that your sense are accurate. Because you can never provide evidence that your senses are accurate, you have to assume them if you wish to use them. And that assumption makes things subjective.

That's sort of why everything is technically subjective, even if we consider it universal from our perspective.
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TAO_Arecibo wrote:

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion.


Therefore even you are an opinion. I don't need to share my knowledge, just remind you that dictionaries are still very useful in this day and age.
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Posted 3/17/13

TAO_Arecibo wrote:

That's sort of why everything is technically subjective, even if we consider it universal from our perspective.


Mathematical proofs are not subject to perception or interpretation.

Posted 3/17/13

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ursae wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

That is like saying that the sky is blue because the sky is a Giant Ice dome like roof covering the earth.


That's not an opinion, that's a hypothesis.


Technically, a hypothesis is an opinion.

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion. Weird, nah?


Lol no not at all.
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Yup, everything is an opinion.
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How many times does an idea occur? This makes opinions come at infinite possibilities. The saturation of it all is what makes it unequal. However, if you come across a fact, it only has one truth. Everyone will equally know about this fact if they come across it.
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ursae wrote:


TAO_Arecibo wrote:

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion.


Therefore even you are an opinion.


Yes, technically so. To you, I am an assumption of one's senses, correspondence theory, and logic. To me, I'm just an assumption of logic.


I don't need to share my knowledge, just remind you that dictionaries are still very useful in this day and age.


Do you think dictionaries are any less subjective than any other method of defining things? What they are is 'useful for communication purposes', not objective.
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trinkit wrote:


TAO_Arecibo wrote:

That's sort of why everything is technically subjective, even if we consider it universal from our perspective.


Mathematical proofs are not subject to perception or interpretation.



If you accept logic, you'd be correct. Unfortunately, there are people out there who don't even assume logic. Which kinda screws everything over. I haven't actually ever met one, but I have heard they exist. They are nihilists of a certain variety (but not all nihilists reject logic).
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K-onfan1 wrote:


TAO_Arecibo wrote:


ursae wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

That is like saying that the sky is blue because the sky is a Giant Ice dome like roof covering the earth.


That's not an opinion, that's a hypothesis.


Technically, a hypothesis is an opinion.

Even more than that though, because all our knowledge is based on certain base assumptions, technically everything is an opinion. Weird, nah?


Lol no not at all.


Did you read my post on why it's subjective?
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If you accept logic, you'd be correct.

And if you don’t, then you are accepting as fact that logic is illogical and are basing your premise on paradoxical thinking.
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Posted 3/18/13 , edited 3/18/13

trinkit wrote:


TAO_Arecibo wrote:
If you accept logic, you'd be correct.

And if you don’t, then you are accepting as fact that logic is illogical and are basing your premise on paradoxical thinking.


Logic can be illogical. Logic only makes sense when you believe in logic. If you don't believe it, it is total nonsense.

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