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American Cars VS Foreign Cars
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Which do you think is better?
Please draw on your experiences and give good examples!
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American cars(worth mentioning) I have driven;
SRT-4
Camaro Z28
S/C'd 01 Mustang GT
SVT Lightning
Solstice GXP

Japanese Cars(worth mentioning);
93 Supra TT
450whp FD Rx7
Every gen Miata
S2000
RSX-S
Celica Alltrac
2002 Celica
Rx8
STi
Evo 8
IS300
350z

European Cars(Worth Mentioning)
E46 M3
Z4M
Z3M
E39 M5
330ci
335i

Now with those mentioned I will give my opinion.

1st Place- European(German to be specific)
The first Euro car I ever drove was the Z3M. I fell in love with that car. It was so pure, so raw and so fun. The engine just soared to its lofty redline. Delivering power smoothly and without a stumble. I knew I had to drive more. Following one after another, I came to the realization that BMWs hold true to their slogan, 'The Ultimate Driving Machine'. Everything is so precise, so purposeful. The M cars have recently taken over my favorite civil cars. They are race bred machines that have been refined for the street without losing any of their 'racey-ness'. Even with all the sportiness of the cars, the interior is sophisticated and tastefully done with hints of wood trim and fine leather.

2nd Place- Japanese
The cars that first got me into the car scene. I was drawn in by the curves of the 90's Japanese sports cars, the untranslated Hot Version VHS tapes. I have yet to find cars that have such efficient motors(HP per Liter). Small motors + Light weight make such an entertaining car. Of those I listed, My top 3 are the Supra, Miata(yes Miata), and the Rx8. Each of those have such a high fun factor. The Supra for the power and comfort. The Miata for its all out fun and go-kart style. And the Rx8 for the amazing rotary engine and balanced chassis. Why didn't it get first? Not many new Japanese cars capture my heart as well as new Euro cars. The Japanese sports car era was the 90s, too bad its not now.

3rd Place- American
I struggle to find ANY American car that captures my attention. If anything there is the newer Vipers, and if I had a choice I would take an E60 M5 over it. Why do no American cars interest me? I have always found that their engines have been inefficient, I can't think of an American engine(Stock) that can produce 100hp per liter(naturally aspirated). I mean look at the new C6 Zo6, 7 liters and only 505hp. Not saying the LSx motors are bad, but IMO they are just underachieving in stock form. Then there is the suspension. Suspension is one of the key sellers for me when I look at a car, and I am not impressed with any Domestic vehicles suspension. They are always sloppy and poor performing. I'll just leave it at that. Finally there is the interior. Even the highest end cars have the interiors out of a Crapolier/Neon(look at the 'Vettes and Vipers. A monotonous sight of bland colored flimsy plastic and cheap plastic chrome pieces.

The unranked- Italian

I have a very odd obsession with Ferraris. Even though I have never driven one, why? Look at my age and think of the reaction a Ferrari salesman would have if I asked to drive one. But there is just some addicting aura these beautiful masterpieces have. Everything from the seductive lines of the aluminum and carbon fiber bodies to elegant interiors that seamlessly blend race inspiration and luxury. Then there are the engines, Formula 1 derived chunks of aluminum that emit such efficiency with little displacement. V12s that resemble those from the 1960s that Colombo designed for Enzo himself. And they cherry on top is the melodious symphony that emits from the exhaust tips. Its just music to my ears. If I could hear 1 thing for the rest of my life it would be a Ferrari V12.

My unobtainable obsession with Italian cars would rank #1 but because I have no real world seat time in one I cannot give it a higher rank than those I have driven.

Just my $.02
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^Your not giving American cars enough credit.

Sloppy suspension?
I've seen a FordGT keep up with an Enzo at a track. I've also seen a stock C6-Zo6 beat many Ferrarri's at the track. Even on the low end I know of a Factory backed Chevy Cobalt that smoked FD's and Supra's at Willow Springs. Hell the stock Dodge Charger pulls 1g on the skid pad. So maybe it's just that you haven't driven any good American cars.

Cheap interior?
To this day I have not seen any American interior that is more flimsy and cheap then the Evo's and WRX's.

Power to liter?
Big American engines usually sacrifice power for fuel economy. The thing is, we want big engines but we don't want 6mpg. So they give us big engines and cut power down to a point that we can accept and still get 20~30mpg. I use to have a C5 that got about 29mpg and with about $500 worth of upgrades I could easily increase the power and match the 100 per liter mark.
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go foreign~!!
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killar wrote:

^Your not giving American cars enough credit.

Sloppy suspension?
I've seen a FordGT keep up with an Enzo at a track. I've also seen a stock C6-Zo6 beat many Ferrarri's at the track. Even on the low end I know of a Factory backed Chevy Cobalt that smoked FD's and Supra's at Willow Springs. Hell the stock Dodge Charger pulls 1g on the skid pad. So maybe it's just that you haven't driven any good American cars.

Cheap interior?
To this day I have not seen any American interior that is more flimsy and cheap then the Evo's and WRX's.

Power to liter?
Big American engines usually sacrifice power for fuel economy. The thing is, we want big engines but we don't want 6mpg. So they give us big engines and cut power down to a point that we can accept and still get 20~30mpg. I use to have a C5 that got about 29mpg and with about $500 worth of upgrades I could easily increase the power and match the 100 per liter mark.


Re-Read the cars I have driven. There was quite a good reason I took the time to list them. Oh and that Cobalt is hardly a Cobalt any more(If you and I are thinking of the same one). Its a fully built race machine. Please post evidence of this Charger pulling 1.0gs on a skidpad, C&D only has the SRT-8 at .9gs.

Actually the STi interior is quite nice. With the Blue Recaros that are very supporting. I would agree that the dash is bland, but It its much better than that of the C5 vettes.

You are clearly not reading my post right. You are saying modded. I am saying STOCK.

Oh and cars at the track could have one very important variable. The driver. I usually go off of this list/and fastlaptimes.com or whatever it is.

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/
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rice rockets lol
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american muscle biznitch!!!!!!!

anyways no other cars can pull off a wheelie
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keep telling yourself that?
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I like australian muscle badged under ford =P


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wolzen wrote:



american muscle biznitch!!!!!!!

anyways no other cars can pull off a wheelie


I hope your just playing stupid...
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killar wrote:


wolzen wrote:



american muscle biznitch!!!!!!!

anyways no other cars can pull off a wheelie


I hope your just playing stupid...







Isnt he right ? o.O
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^maybe he's watched the fast and furious too many times =/
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lolll im not an expert in cars but i prefer foreign cars =p
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killar wrote:

^maybe he's watched the fast and furious too many times =/


i have seen them do weelies before
here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBsVb1RfM4

but i like american car better they may not be faster but the way they feel when driving and the sound of feel of the engine can not be beat
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Yes they can do wheelies, but to say American cars can ONLY do wheelies is ignorant.

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