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Posted 3/17/13

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The point: The reason behind a certain action.

A requirement: Something that is necessary to go through with said action.


So the reason behind taking that risk is that he wants to go through with the surgery.


No, that's merely an aspect of it.
But a different part of that aspect involves a big risk, with low chance of success and a hefty price that will cause the family to be in debt.

So the question arises again: What is the point in taking that chance when the propability of it being a success is so low?
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No, that's merely an aspect of it.
But a different part of that aspect involves a big risk, with low chance of success and a hefty price that will cause the family to be in debt.

So the question arises again: What is the point in taking that chance when the propability of it being a success is so low?


And why wouldn't this aspect of it suffice as a reason?
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lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

No, that's merely an aspect of it.
But a different part of that aspect involves a big risk, with low chance of success and a hefty price that will cause the family to be in debt.

So the question arises again: What is the point in taking that chance when the propability of it being a success is so low?


And why wouldn't this aspect of it suffice as a reason?


Because of the big risk it involves.
The risk is a significant point, and the dilemma now revolves around that.
The question is wheather or not to go for the surgery despite the big risk.
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Because of the big risk it involves.
The risk is a significant point, and the dilemma now revolves around that.
The question is wheather or not to go for the surgery despite the big risk.


How is the risk a significant point?
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Posted 3/17/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

Because of the big risk it involves.
The risk is a significant point, and the dilemma now revolves around that.
The question is wheather or not to go for the surgery despite the big risk.


How is the risk a significant point?


Because if they go through with it and it fails, then the family will be thrown into big debt with nothing in return.
A dead husband/father, AND a big debt to boot.
Where as if they don't go through with it, he will surely die, but at least they won't have so much debt and will thus have it much, much easier economicly after his loss.

So why should they take the chance on the surgery?
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Because if they go through with it and it fails, then the family will be thrown into big debt with nothing in return.


Is the family willing to take on this debt?
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Posted 3/17/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

Because if they go through with it and it fails, then the family will be thrown into big debt with nothing in return.


Is the family willing to take on this debt?


If it saves the husband, yes.
But the problem is that the likelyhood that he will survive if they go through with the surgery is so low.
So why should they take the chance that it will succeed?
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If it saves the husband, yes.


What if it doesn't save the husband?
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If it saves the husband, yes.


What if it doesn't save the husband?


Then it would be a waste.
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Then it would be a waste.


Would the family be willing to take on the debt if it doesn't save the husband?
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lordseth23 wrote:


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Then it would be a waste.


Would the family be willing to take on the debt if it doesn't save the husband?


Why should they?
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Why should they?


I would say that they should if the husband wants to continue living.
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lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

Why should they?


I would say that they should if the husband wants to continue living.


They ALL want him to live. But why should they take the chance if the probability of success is so low?
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They ALL want him to live. But why should they take the chance if the probability of success is so low?


They should take the chance because they are willing to take on the debt and the husband wants to have the operation.
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Posted 3/18/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

They ALL want him to live. But why should they take the chance if the probability of success is so low?


They should take the chance because they are willing to take on the debt and the husband wants to have the operation.


Yeah, but the chance for the husband to survive is still very low. He will most likely not survive. So what's the point in taking the chance that he will survive when the chance is so slim?
After all, they wouldn't want to be in debt for nothing. That would only make things much worse. So why take the risk?
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