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what is justice?
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Syndicaidramon wrote:

The way I see justice is when a person get what he/she has coming to them. Be it in a good way or a bad way.



And what do they have coming to them?

How could misfortune be classified as justice?
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Justice is standing up to what is moral...

However, there is no standard of morality, because morality change as time goes by...
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lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

The way I see justice is when a person get what he/she has coming to them. Be it in a good way or a bad way.



And what do they have coming to them?

How could misfortune be classified as justice?


That's what we call, 'the greater good'.
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tehstud wrote:

That's what we call, 'the greater good'.


Are you saying that "the greater good" should only benefit some people?
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lordseth23 wrote:


tehstud wrote:

That's what we call, 'the greater good'.


Are you saying that "the greater good" should only benefit some people?


Why do we execute murderers? Isn't murder wrong and illegal? That's the greater good.
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tehstud wrote:

Why do we execute murderers? Isn't murder wrong and illegal? That's the greater good.


I don't know why we execute murderers, it shouldn't happen. We should provide them with the best therapy possible if they do not have a mental defect and rehabilitate their lives.

Murder is morally wrong, and the only people that do it have psychological problems that can either be cured or are permanent. The ones that have mental defects can easily be retained in mental hospitals and do not pose any significant problems to society.

Executing people should never be considered "for the greater good".
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lordseth23 wrote:


tehstud wrote:

Why do we execute murderers? Isn't murder wrong and illegal? That's the greater good.


I don't know why we execute murderers, it shouldn't happen. We should provide them with the best therapy possible if they do not have a mental defect and rehabilitate their lives.

Murder is morally wrong, and the only people that do it have psychological problems that can either be cured or are permanent. The ones that have mental defects can easily be retained in mental hospitals and do not pose any significant problems to society.

Executing people should never be considered "for the greater good".


You do realize that the criminally insane are not sent to prison nor executed, they are sent to a psych facility. The ones who are not deemed insane are sent to prison and/or executed. Not everyone who murders or commits a crime is afflicted with a mental disorder. Some people murder because they feel they have a justifiable reason to do so, when they do not. Some people murder because they simply like to make people suffer. And another thing, mental disorders cannot be 'cured', merely stabilized (though often volatile), so that's not a viable solution.
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tehstud wrote:

You do realize that the criminally insane are not sent to prison nor executed, they are sent to a psych facility. The ones who are not deemed insane are sent to prison and/or executed. Not everyone who murders or commits a crime is afflicted with a mental disorder. Some people murder because they feel they have a justifiable reason to do so, when they do not. Some people murder because they simply like to make people suffer. And another thing, mental disorders cannot be 'cured', merely stabilized (though often volatile), so that's not a viable solution.


Then murderers with mental disorders should be sent to the facility, while the rest who "feel that they have a justifiable reason to do so" should be sent to rehabilitation centers into order to have their psychological problems treated, there is no reason to execute them.
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lordseth23 wrote:


tehstud wrote:

You do realize that the criminally insane are not sent to prison nor executed, they are sent to a psych facility. The ones who are not deemed insane are sent to prison and/or executed. Not everyone who murders or commits a crime is afflicted with a mental disorder. Some people murder because they feel they have a justifiable reason to do so, when they do not. Some people murder because they simply like to make people suffer. And another thing, mental disorders cannot be 'cured', merely stabilized (though often volatile), so that's not a viable solution.


Then murderers with mental disorders should be sent to the facility, while the rest who "feel that they have a justifiable reason to do so" should be sent to rehabilitation centers into order to have their psychological problems treated, there is no reason to execute them.


You misunderstood. The murderers with mental disorders are sent to a psychiatric facility, whilst those deemed sane, can discern right from wrong, are sent to prison or death row. And, for now, the only viable options are to keep them incarcerated with no hope of freedom or to execute them.
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Justice is a plea to others to help you "get even" gilded in emotionally rousing rhetoric. Or at least that's what most people's sense of justice seems to entail. In terms of how it's utilized in practice, this pretty much hits the nail on the head:

trinkit wrote:Justice is a commodity, something that is bought and sold by the wealthy and that the least powerful in society will always fall short of getting.
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schnipdip wrote:

haha this is very interesting.

Well, have you ever read The Apology - by Socrates? He says that the wrong doers should basically be taught and educated by the people that know. It is up to the people that know good to teach people that don't. That is what their punishment should be.


I tried after your recommendation, I got 3/4 the way through, but such an expansive vocabulary intake in such little time leaves me in a daze in which I lose focus and end up reading the same paragraph over and over and over... i would have gotten through eventually but i lack the necessary patience, in all i get the general gist of what was happening
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