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Do you consider "Avatar - The Last Airbender" anime?
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Posted 5/24/13 , edited 5/24/13

LainEverliving wrote:

I don't even really consider works like Avatar: The Last Airbender to be 'copying' or 'mimicking' anime; the anime visual sensibility has become so widespread that it is now a legitimate style to work in, just as the 'Disney' style is.

Oh definitely not. I meant something like if you were to make a new series so similar to an older, unrelated one that you wouldn't be able to tell the screenshots apart. Not just general influences and prevailing trends in animation.

Like if someone were to make a new mecha tomorrow that looked exactly like Code Geass.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that, since Code Geass looked terrible, but that's what I meant.


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So again, what makes something 'anime'? It's a combination of two factors: where the story originated, and where the animation was made. On the first point, most Japanese animated content fits the bill of 'anime' (unless it is a rare case of a project like The Animatrix or Halo: Legends where the story is originated from America or elsewhere, but executed in Japan). On the second point, with the exception of older content and a few recent films (namely the Ghibli works from Ponyo on), no 'anime' is 'purely' Japanese. The production realities of the modern anime industry are such that virtually every film and TV episode we watch is, at least in part, made outside of Japan. To classify these works fairly and credit the people who are bringing them to life, I think we have to view most 'anime' as international co-productions (though the non-Japanese partner is often denied the prestige and respect they deserve, due to being a subcontractor). Modern 'anime' as we know it is a highly-developed, multi-national industry drawing upon the skills of artists in Japan, Korea, China, The Philippines, and Thailand. The sooner we come to understand that, and also understand that 'anime' as a label is broader and less black-and-white than most of us would imagine, the easier it will be to recognize that all forms of animation (regardless of origin or style) can be equally deserving of our attention and respect.

This is also true, although so far most truly multi-cultural anime projects have sucked too much to get much attention, like the Marvel, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect anime series. But I don't think ATLA or LoK are in that grey area.

Edit: "Truly" in this case being an actual blending of cultural influences, not just subcontracting.

And I also don't mean to elevate anime above other animation, it's just a moniker that loses its usefulness when diluted. I'm desperately hoping to see Korea's domestic animation industry gain more headway, I want a The Breaker series.

tl;dr, "animation" should be the catch-all term in these cases, not anime.

Just like you wouldn't call a movie from Hong Kong a Hollywood production, it'd actually be a depreciating compliment.
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Not anime in the least.

People are to quick to say anything animated that is a little dark and has an overarching plot is anime. None of those are defining things of anime. You'd instantly kick out like every comedy series ever made and have some really glaring omissions that are clear cut anime.
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