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Do people (in general) hate thinking?
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I was talking to my friends the other day about the fact that I don't understand why certain rap songs are popular. I essentially asked them why they like listening to famous/rich people talk about how much money, cars, girls, etc. they have or how 'hard' they are. If someone was bragging to me like that I would find them pretentious and annoying, but because they put a beat and say it rhythmically it magically becomes acceptable? They immediately attacked me saying that since I think my choice in music is better that makes me pretentious. Even though I never said that, I argued that it doesn't make sense to say something is 'better' in a non measurable sense...
Anyway, long story short, I believe that people, in general, don't like to think too much. The most popular series of books, movies, games, etc. typically are not ones in which the audience gains insight, new knowledge, something to ponder on, etc. but are rather predictable, pandering, or simple feel good/sad experiences. This leads me to my main point, if it seems that in general, people don't like to think too deeply or analyze (and prefer simple, shallow entertainment experiences) why do people act like shows that aren't deep and complex are 'bad' and the fans should feel bad for liking them. Certainly there are many things that would nag at you like stink if you thought too hard about it (plotholes, tropes, predictability), but that isn't the point of entertainment! If people in general don't like to think about philosophical problems, analysis of chord progressions in a song, metaphysical implications of symbols, etc. then it makes little sense to think that more of it will increase entertainment... If people wanted stories that are realistic they would follow the most realistic thing to ever exist, REALITY. If people wanted the most thought provoking philosophical examinations of society they would read philosophy books. Some examples off of my head would be the hate towards Twilight (movies), Justin Bieber, pop music, the big 3, and the guilty crown. If people don't want to think too deeply while they are being entertained why hate them for it?
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I think when I want and need to.
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well this old saw pretty much sums it up

5% of people think
10% think they think
85% of people would rather die then think
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I've come to the conclusion that they don't really hate thinking. It's just that they're actually incapable of performing such a task.
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deli8079 wrote:

I was talking to my friends the other day about the fact that I don't understand why certain rap songs are popular. I essentially asked them why they like listening to famous/rich people talk about how much money, cars, girls, etc. they have or how 'hard' they are. If someone was bragging to me like that I would find them pretentious and annoying, but because they put a beat and say it rhythmically it magically becomes acceptable? They immediately attacked me saying that since I think my choice in music is better that makes me pretentious. Even though I never said that, I argued that it doesn't make sense to say something is 'better' in a non measurable sense...
Anyway, long story short, I am wondering if people, in general, don't like to think. The most popular series of books, movies, games, etc. typically are not ones in which the audience gains a insight, new knowledge, something to ponder on, etc. but are rather predictable, pandering, or simple feel good/sad experiences. This leads me to my main point, if it seems that in general, people don't like to think too deeply or analyze (and prefer simple, shallow entertainment experiences) why do people act like shows that aren't deep and complex are 'bad', etc. Some examples off of my head would be the hate towards Twilight (movies), Justin Bieber, pop music, the big 3, and the guilty crown. If people don't want to think too deeply while they are being entertained why hate them for it?


No need to get bootybothered over pop culture OP, it's simply because people want to like what everyone else like to fit in.
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deli8079 wrote:

I was talking to my friends the other day about the fact that I don't understand why certain rap songs are popular. I essentially asked them why they like listening to famous/rich people talk about how much money, cars, girls, etc. they have or how 'hard' they are. If someone was bragging to me like that I would find them pretentious and annoying, but because they put a beat and say it rhythmically it magically becomes acceptable? They immediately attacked me saying that since I think my choice in music is better that makes me pretentious. Even though I never said that, I argued that it doesn't make sense to say something is 'better' in a non measurable sense...
Anyway, long story short, I am wondering if people, in general, don't like to think. The most popular series of books, movies, games, etc. typically are not ones in which the audience gains a insight, new knowledge, something to ponder on, etc. but are rather predictable, pandering, or simple feel good/sad experiences. This leads me to my main point, if it seems that in general, people don't like to think too deeply or analyze (and prefer simple, shallow entertainment experiences) why do people act like shows that aren't deep and complex are 'bad', etc. Some examples off of my head would be the hate towards Twilight (movies), Justin Bieber, pop music, the big 3, and the guilty crown. If people don't want to think too deeply while they are being entertained why hate them for it?


No need to get bootybothered over pop culture OP, it's simply because people want to like what everyone else like to fit in.


Unfortunately I don't think I got the idea across correctly. I'm not butthurt over pop culture and I whole-heartedly believe that its okay for people to be entertained by whatever they want, but why is there mass hate of popular entertainment because of the fact that it is simply/shallow even though people have shown that they don't normally enjoy otherwise...
Posted 3/20/13
Depends what your thinking about.....
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I like to think I like anime that have a deep story but I also like the simple ones too I assume people like rap because everyone else does like why people buy the iPhone because most people also have the iPhone we are social creatures and we try to communicate with each other as much as possible that's why people hate twilight, Justine Beiber etc
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I've come to the conclusion that they don't really hate thinking. It's just that they're actually incapable of performing such a task.


I really hope that is not the case
I have the hope that it is just a product of evolution where benefiting as much as possible with as little energy as possible is the most optimal means of survival.
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Well I think that people dislike thought to a certain extent. It'll obviously bring up subjects that they would rather forget. That has a very good chance of being why people partake in drugs and alcohol, so that they might numb their thoughts and escape worldly problems. I don't think that people fully hate though, since it is a double edged blade in the sense that it can give you great thoughts or horrible thoughts. It all comes down to how one deals with the thoughts, to decide whether or not they hate their thoughts.
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dzbonz wrote:

I like to think I like anime that have a deep story but I also like the simple ones too I assume people like rap because everyone else does like why people buy the iPhone because most people also have the iPhone we are social creatures and we try to communicate with each other as much as possible that's why people hate twilight, Justine Beiber etc


Therein lies what I don't understand, they rag on twilight and justin beiber for being dumb or pandering when their own logic of hating something for simple reasons seems quite dumb...
Posted 3/20/13 , edited 3/20/13
They just don't give a shit about you

In conclusion don't intrude on others expecting shit
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deli8079 wrote:

I really hope that is not the case
I have the hope that it is just a product of evolution where benefiting as much as possible with as little energy as possible is the most optimal means of survival.


That would be called regression...
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They just don't give a shit about you

In conclusion don't intrude on others expecting shit


lol, yeah. People are selfish creatures. That is neither good nor bad however.
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You're not hanging with the right crowd.
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