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Do people (in general) hate thinking?
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demongurrl13 wrote:This^ here, ladies and gentlemen, is why people capable of thinking for themselves are going extinct. We've lost all respect for each other's intellectual properties that it's now acceptable to rip off other people's genius, tweak it a bit, and call it your own. This goes for books, movies, tv shows, you name it... One day everything will be a brilliant remake and the word "new" and "original" will become practically useless.


Well, making an intellectual quote as part of an intellectual conversation is merely recognizing past brilliance and bringing it up to fuel present creative thoughts. It's the opposite of losing respect for the works of the past. Now, it would be wrong to pass it off as original when it wasn't, but I personally didn't interpret that particular post as intentionally misleading us.

As far as books and movies go, it's a problem to be overly derivative. If you've read Eragon, it's a good example of something that was too derivative of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Dragonriders of Pern. All of which were good, classic stories. You can easily see how a young, inexperienced author would be inspired by them and want to make their own story like them. However, in that case, it's definitely deserving of some criticism. He was too unoriginal, even if it was all tweaked and meshed together to make his own story. If you were to criticize that, I would agree with you, but if someone says "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic," I'm not going to get up in arms about their failure to provide a Works Cited page as part of their forum post.
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Well, making an intellectual quote as part of an intellectual conversation is merely recognizing past brilliance and bringing it up to fuel present creative thoughts. It's the opposite of losing respect for the works of the past. Now, it would be wrong to pass it off as original when it wasn't, but I personally didn't interpret that particular post as intentionally misleading us.

As far as books and movies go, it's a problem to be overly derivative. If you've read Eragon, it's a good example of something that was too derivative of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Dragonriders of Pern. All of which were good, classic stories. You can easily see how a young, inexperienced author would be inspired by them and want to make their own story like them. However, in that case, it's definitely deserving of some criticism. He was too unoriginal, even if it was all tweaked and meshed together to make his own story. If you were to criticize that, I would agree with you, but if someone says "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic," I'm not going to get up in arms about their failure to provide a Works Cited page as part of their forum post.


If you go back and read my post on what my definition for "thinking" is, maybe you'll understand why I was a little peeved to see someone try to pass off a tweaked quote as their own 2 cents in a thread ABOUT thinking.... I actually would have appreciated the use of quotation marks if they didn't have any words of their own to contribute. But this is all just coming from someone who considers herself to be a writer and therefore puts a very high value on intellectual property. I'm not gonna force my views on you. All I did was give an observation.
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I think it has a lot to do with a person's personality type. In general Introverts tend to think more because they get more enjoyment by thinking about things, where as Extroverts tend not to think so much because they get more enjoyment by doing things. Not to say that Introverts never do things or that Extroverts don't ever think they just have different default settings.

Also keep in mind that you are talking about entertainment here. When most people seek out entertainment it's because they don't want to think they just want to turn off the brain for a while sit back and relax. However there are some freaks out there like myself who get entertainment out of problem solving and like to analyze everything, but even I just want to turn off the brain sometimes and enjoy some mindless entertainment nothing wrong with that right?

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demongurrl13 wrote:
If you go back and read my post on what my definition for "thinking" is, maybe you'll understand why I was a little peeved to see someone try to pass off a tweaked quote as their own 2 cents in a thread ABOUT thinking.... I actually would have appreciated the use of quotation marks if they didn't have any words of their own to contribute. But this is all just coming from someone who considers herself to be a writer and therefore puts a very high value on intellectual property. I'm not gonna force my views on you. All I did was give an observation.


Fair enough. You're right, just adding quotation marks would've been simple and elegant. I'm a writer myself, so I do understand just how highly we can value intellectual property when we set aside so many hours of the day to our white boards full of idea outlines, or however we choose to organize our brainstorming.
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Hate it? It's a tool. You use it when you want to get things done, and you put it away when you don't. Of course, I use mine quite a bit, so it's the kind of tool that I keep on top of the fridge rather than the tool box, so I can always get to it pretty easily. But then again, my house is kind of cluttered, so getting to it can be kind of a pain. And then there's the times where I take it down, get ready to get to work, and think -- "nah dude, I don't really feel like doing this right now," put it back, and go watch Oreshura. Plus there's those times when I use it past its safety rating, it breaks, and I throw its shattered remains across the room yelling, "fuck it! I'm done." It may feel like hate, but really I'm just pissed off that I cheaped out on parts -- I should've taken a look at the newer model. But, then again, I'm pretty comfortable with the one I'm using now, and I'd need to learn a whole set of procedures if I got the shiny new one. And on top of that, the manual is almost incomprehensible, and is even clearly wrong sometimes. I could call tech support, but they don't have a damn clue what they're talking about, and everyone knows the internet can't be trusted.

Um... so what was I talking about? Oh yeah, It's less that people generally hate thinking and more that they generally hate having to do chores. Cleaning my apartment every once in a while can feel kind of nice; cleaning vomit stains off the carpet is slightly less nice.
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If i may add:

"It was over the last century, says Cain, that society began reshaping itself as an extrovert’s paradise—to the introvert’s demise. She explains that before the twentieth century, we lived in what historians called a “culture of character,” when you were expected to conduct yourself morally with quiet integrity. But when people starting flocking to the cities and working for big businesses the question became, how do I stand out in a crowd? We morphed into a “culture of personality,” which she says sparked a fascination with glittering movie stars, bubbly employees and outgoing leadership."

- Jenna Goudreau Forbes staff.
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demongurrl13 wrote:


Although you completely misrepresented my intent, by making me an object lesson, you raised a valid point. To finally put this sordid affair to bed, I would like to say that I find it a bit ironic that the quote in question is historically credited NOT to the speechwriter who thought, and wrote the words, but rather to the man who simply uttered them in public. As a person who “puts a very high value on intellectual property”, perhaps this should also concern you.

Posted 3/28/13

hopfly wrote:

Although you completely misrepresented my intent, by making me an object lesson, you raised a valid point. To finally put this sordid affair to bed, I would like to say that I find it a bit ironic that the quote in question is historically credited NOT to the speechwriter who thought, and wrote the words, but rather to the man who simply uttered them in public. As a person who “puts a very high value on intellectual property”, perhaps this should also concern you.



I suggest you look up what a "ghostwriter" is...
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