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RWBY VOL 4 CHP 12 No Safe Haven A Couple leftover thoughts



TEAM RWBY VS RNJR ( Who has the edge now speculation )

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What I actually came here to post: the official lyrics for "Armed and Ready" (as in from Jeff himself):


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FLjerry2011 wrote:









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What I actually came here to post: the official lyrics for "Armed and Ready" (as in from Jeff himself):




FIRST / THANKS for well thought replies

SECOND / Thanks for the Lyrics / Jeffi is a good songwriter and Casey is very good singer doing a lot of nusical genres!
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My late review of the Volume 4 finale:

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My late review of the Volume 4 finale:



Thanks / I dont feel so alone ON VOL 4 !
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The cynicism some of the fans have over specific details in the Volume 4 plot; I am sorry, but I refuse to entertain either side of the arguments. The matter of fact is: fans of any particular thing have a habit of seeing things (such as this so-called "subtext") that are either ridiculously exaggerated, taken out of context, or outright non-existent, and then arbitrarily connect random dots together. RWBY is no exception to this. To repeat what I said earlier, the truth always lies somewhere in the middle; nothing is black and white.


THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS

People really need to stop looking into things too deeply
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Np, I happened to see someone on YT who had gotten the official lyrics and figured I'd put them out there.


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My late review of the Volume 4 finale:







The cynicism some of the fans have over specific details in the Volume 4 plot; I am sorry, but I refuse to entertain either side of the arguments. The matter of fact is: fans of any particular thing have a habit of seeing things (such as this so-called "subtext") that are either ridiculously exaggerated, taken out of context, or outright non-existent, and then arbitrarily connect random dots together. RWBY is no exception to this. To repeat what I said earlier, the truth always lies somewhere in the middle; nothing is black and white.


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*insert skeleton meme* Still waiting for someone to upload the Japanese dub of volume 2.....
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Bad Messaging:
Unfortunately, all of that is subjective, and based on a person's own views of the show. I do agree with you on some of these points, but that does not detract from the inherit subjectivity. People are allowed to believe what they believe, as long as they accept that the opposing view has its merits. That did not happen here, and those who are mindlessly defending Sun and those mindlessly defending Blake are equally guilty of this.

Narrative:
If Sun was left out, there brings the legitimate risk of Blake shutting herself off from the rest of the world. Yes, Sun was rather forceful (although we do not quite agree on its definition here), but he helped bring out something for character development for Blake. Blake is not Ren, and she is not Weiss either; they already had some character development going before Volume 4, whereas Blake's was completely reset leaving her to drift back to her old mentalities. This might bring depth to a few elements of her backstory, but it puts everything else, such as her relationship with Team RWBY and especially Yang, to a complete standstill. The grass is not always greener on the other side.

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Now for what I actually wanted to post about after thinking on "Armed and Ready" lyrics and one line in particular "the hidden eyes that I can feel there", the bringing up of Adam's "hidden eyes" while admittedly is likely to be to point to him, also makes me wonder if its suggesting that when he, Yang, and Blake clash (gotta happen) his mask is going to be broken thus revealing said "hidden eyes".

(Nothing really spoiler-y in this, just an out of context lyric line, so going to leave it out of spoilers unless someone thinks it should be put in them).



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Personally I enjoyed Volume 4. 3 ended with massive damage to everyone and everything and 4 was designed to be a little more about introspection and healing. It's something the characters needed to help them refocus and decide what's important.

It also sets up our new threats with Salem's team and the finale with Nuckles is foreshadowing the level of the dangers yet to come. That thing is so far from the Grimm we are used to seeing that it restores a feeling of threat to the creatures. Lets face it the Wovles anre Bears were starting to feel like fodder.

Plus Jean gets a weapon upgrade. Sure it's not a gun but shifting from sword and board to a nice two hander when he needs to up the damage level is a neat trick.

Looking forward to season 5.
I can almost see how the group starts pulling together again

Wiess - "I have to find my friends in this huge city. where to start"
Something explodes in the distance
"That'll be them"
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After rewatching the finale 2 things and 1 reiteration to mention:

1) Ilia is shown as Ruby is narrating about those 'lost' and sorrow (the reiteration), thus again tying potentially into her not per se being fully onboard with the WF and being depressed/sad (about being on the opposite side as Blake).

2) Before Qrow comments about Oscar/Oz, Oz's staff expands after Oscar catches it and that may be some kind of trick that Oz and Qrow know but isn't widely spread thus giving some reasoning to Qrow accepting Oscar as Oz.

So good to not need to use spoiler tags anymore
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Yeah, team RWBY back together. Great final for the season.
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*one much delayed watch-through RWBY Vol 4 later*

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Really RoosterTeeth? Are you really going to be making this a thing each year?

Because I swear, when stacking up the pros and cons of this season with Volume 3, it's almost exactly the same...just in different magnitudes.

-The characters

We do have some nice character development from everyone. Ruby and everyone else on team RNJR (yeah that's what I'm going with) dealing with the loss of Pyrrha and their journey forward, Weiss being yanked back into the affairs of the Schnee family when she knows there's a bigger fight to be apart of, Blake dealing with her own guilt from the events of Vol 3, and Yang dealing with PTSD from Adam's attack and to a robot arm.

Which all makes sense and is satisfactory...but...

-The Grimm actually being scary

Well...1 Grimm in particular.

Holy shit, was the Nuckelavee horseman Grimm badass! The set-up for this Grimm in the very beginning, to the flashbacks of it attacking Kuroyuri and killing Ren's parents, and its reveal in the present day, all VERY well done. It does not feel like bland cannon fodder for our heroes to plow through to make them look awesome, it feels like a legit threat.

And overall, the sense of the Grimm running more rampantly then they ever did before because of the fall of Vale.

But...that's about it.

Otherwise, Volume 4 has a whole lot of other issues...

-The pacing

RWBY has had pacing problems since Volume 1. Vol 1 in particular having a self-contained story arc with the "entrance exam" into the forest, but then devolving into a very episodic story of our heroes' time in the university broken up into two mini-arcs ("Jaune vs Cardin" and "Weiss vs Blake (+Penny)"). But in Volume 4, not only do we have pacing issues still, but that they're even WORSE then in the previous volumes.

Since in Volume 4, they chose to have four different storylines happening simultaneously.

Which in of itself isn't too bad if you have a healthy episode count like say, 16 at best or a full 24 episodes.

This Volume...has 12 episodes. Not nearly enough for what they want to go with.

And that's not counting the stuff with Oscar/Ozpin or Cinder recovering. And on top of all of it, we're diving into Ren's backstory? Which if we count all of those, brings a grand total of *7* storylines. In 12 episodes. Some of those episodes not even being the full length of a standard TV episode at 17-22 minutes.

With the above mentioned character stuff, there's a sense that everyone's arc was...underdeveloped. Either their development progresses and/or resolves a little bit too quickly, the sense of certain elements of their character arc being missing, or the parts that you would think are the main focus of their development but gets...oddly brushed aside.

-The plot

Or rather the lack of one...in that NOTHING HAPPENS!

Pulling things away from the characters and looking at the overarching storyline regarding the Maidens, Salem's evil schemes, the White Fang...nothing.

We learn a bunch of new things (Salem & Co's next target being the Spring Maiden and setting their eyes to attack Mistral, the existence of "relics" in addition to the Maidens which we are learning in-show right now), but in terms of the plot actually progressing and developing...nothing. In fact, the Volume ends with Team RNJR arriving in Mistral...but with Weiss, Blake & Sun, and Yang heading to Mistral. Otherwise, nothing of real importance happened.

No Cinder facing her judgement as a villain (to the point where she gets shoved aside this volume and isn't ever seen by our heroes), nothing really happening regarding the other Maidens, the main villain fight happens with a guy we've never met before until this Volume, but in the middle of the Volume, nothing really happening with the White Fang aside from Blake getting visited by a scout, no new information about what the hell the deal is with Ruby's silver eyes (which BTW, she never uses them once in this Volume)...nothing.

In fact we have more plotlines starting then really continuing or resolving: Ozpin being alive but whose soul is inhabiting the body of a kid, an attack on Mistral is coming in the new future, these goddamn relics on top of the Maidens...which all that does is force people to need to watch Volume 5 and onwards since Volume 4 isn't going to answer any of that here.

Look: I get what they were going for.

I get they wanted to have a season on the characters recovering from and moving on from the events of Volume 3. It's fine if you want to do something more character-focused...the problem is that the character stuff, while what's there was very good, is very anemic with what's not there. And the fact that you still bring up the plot throughout this season, distracting from the character stuff at best, grind it to a halt at worse. And only shines a spotlight on it more when you don't really follow up on the plot stuff within this volume.

Ugh...just freakin' frustrating all around.

Going to keep it at there for now. Don't want to do an in-depth analytical breakdown review now. Going to do that another time.

Besides, I got episode reviews to do...
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