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Posted 3/23/13
Different people may react differently to loss. As far as the teens who shot the baby are concerned, it may have simply been a gang initiation rite of passage, showing their abililty to be that stone cold in the name of group loyalty. It is very difficult to get away with a plea of insanity; despite how many may try it, very few ever succeed in it.
Posted 3/23/13

K-onfan1 wrote:


Sociopa wrote:



Haha

I don't know why but i went on to read about lingerie football league.....


What if I told you that was me in my buzz light year suit.


Hmm sexy
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She probably has more emotional intelligence than you are used to seeing. There is no reason to harm someone even if they harm you to the greatest extent.


That isn't true at all.

Emotional Intelligence is a fancy word for empathy. Empathy is the ability so sense another person's emotions or feel along with them. Rage, anger, hatred, and a wish for vengeance are part of that too. Emotional Intelligence does not mean calm. It does not mean timid. In fact, feeling outrage or sorrow when someone is wronged is quite empathetic.

And there IS a very valid time to hurt those who are hurting you. Survival instinct is one of the most base instincts we have. Parental instinct is just as deeply ingrained in us. Fighting an aggressor is not only perfectly OK, it is necessary for the stability of the world. When someone gets away with something, it encourages more people to try to get away with things. That is the reason that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Resisting those who harm you is a noble thing. Evil flourishes when the good do nothing. Failing to remove an evil from the world is not "emotionally intelligent" Just the opposite, I would argue that it is in fact quite apathetic and shows a lack of caring for those who would be victimized in the future. So it is not "emotional intelligence" that you are seeing and it is NOT a good thing to be so timid.

You seem to imply that is is best to turn the other cheek. Jesus did say that, but people take that WAY out of context. IN Matthew 5 38-39 He was commenting on the legal code of the day - based upon the original Code of Hammurabi - which quite literally required an eye for an eye. In it, legal punishments were quite directly written and equivalent. If a carpenter built a house and the house fell killing a family, the carpenter's family was put to death (much more effective than having thousands of building codes). If a man poked out another man's eye during a fight, his eye was plucked out. Jesus NEVER said it was wrong to protect one's family. Never.

Deep sorrow is not always accompanied by hysteria. A deeply broken heart can leave a person sullen and quiet. I think this is what necoconeco101 was witnessing. This is more likely than "emotional intelligence" or empathy. I doubt any parent would feel much empathy for their child's murderers.

And frankly, if someone shot my kid I would quietly wait, quietly find them, and quietly do things to them that make Hellraiser and American Psycho look like an episode of Winnie the Poo. No hysteria required. The deepest rages are silent ones.
Posted 3/23/13

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turborobo wrote:

Too bad for the kid it won't grow up to live in a dying world of deepening evil.


How is the world deepening in evil?


You must be visually impaired.
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Posted 3/23/13 , edited 3/23/13

dark_paradox_21 wrote:

That isn't true at all.

Emotional Intelligence is a fancy word for empathy. Empathy is the ability so sense another person's emotions or feel along with them. Rage, anger, hatred, and a wish for vengeance are part of that too. Emotional Intelligence does not mean calm. It does not mean timid. In fact, feeling outrage or sorrow when someone is wronged is quite empathetic.

And there IS a very valid time to hurt those who are hurting you. Survival instinct is one of the most base instincts we have. Parental instinct is just as deeply ingrained in us. Fighting an aggressor is not only perfectly OK, it is necessary for the stability of the world. When someone gets away with something, it encourages more people to try to get away with things. That is the reason that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Resisting those who harm you is a noble thing. Evil flourishes when the good do nothing. Failing to remove an evil from the world is not "emotionally intelligent" Just the opposite, I would argue that it is in fact quite apathetic and shows a lack of caring for those who would be victimized in the future. So it is not "emotional intelligence" that you are seeing and it is NOT a good thing to be so timid.

You seem to imply that is is best to turn the other cheek. Jesus did say that, but people take that WAY out of context. IN Matthew 5 38-39 He was commenting on the legal code of the day - based upon the original Code of Hammurabi - which quite literally required an eye for an eye. In it, legal punishments were quite directly written and equivalent. If a carpenter built a house and the house fell killing a family, the carpenter's family was put to death (much more effective than having thousands of building codes). If a man poked out another man's eye during a fight, his eye was plucked out. Jesus NEVER said it was wrong to protect one's family. Never.

Deep sorrow is not always accompanied by hysteria. A deeply broken heart can leave a person sullen and quiet. I think this is what necoconeco101 was witnessing. This is more likely than "emotional intelligence" or empathy. I doubt any parent would feel much empathy for their child's murderers.

And frankly, if someone shot my kid I would quietly wait, quietly find them, and quietly do things to them that make Hellraiser and American Psycho look like an episode of Winnie the Poo. No hysteria required. The deepest rages are silent ones.


And what makes you think that you need to be a slave to your instincts? Why do you think that the only way to fight is through physical means?

Yes, we should resist those who harm us, but this resistance should not involve harming them because we are capable of helping them see the error in their ways and ultimately turn them into a good person.

And please do not try to preach your religion to me, because it is wrong in many ways. Yes, one should protect his or her family, but you don't understand what a "family" is if you insist on harming other people. Whether you like it or not, everyone on Earth is your family and you should strive to protect each and every member, including the confused ones like you who insist on harming people. You are only hurting yourself by subscribing to the same type of delusions as the aggressor, and you will never reach your full potential because of it.

Why do you resist the notion of empathy? Could you please explain what is wrong with it?
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Posted 3/23/13
I was hoping for really small shot glasses.
Posted 3/23/13

dark_paradox_21 wrote:




She probably has more emotional intelligence than you are used to seeing. There is no reason to harm someone even if they harm you to the greatest extent.


That isn't true at all.

Emotional Intelligence is a fancy word for empathy. Empathy is the ability so sense another person's emotions or feel along with them. Rage, anger, hatred, and a wish for vengeance are part of that too. Emotional Intelligence does not mean calm. It does not mean timid. In fact, feeling outrage or sorrow when someone is wronged is quite empathetic.

And there IS a very valid time to hurt those who are hurting you. Survival instinct is one of the most base instincts we have. Parental instinct is just as deeply ingrained in us. Fighting an aggressor is not only perfectly OK, it is necessary for the stability of the world. When someone gets away with something, it encourages more people to try to get away with things. That is the reason that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Resisting those who harm you is a noble thing. Evil flourishes when the good do nothing. Failing to remove an evil from the world is not "emotionally intelligent" Just the opposite, I would argue that it is in fact quite apathetic and shows a lack of caring for those who would be victimized in the future. So it is not "emotional intelligence" that you are seeing and it is NOT a good thing to be so timid.

You seem to imply that is is best to turn the other cheek. Jesus did say that, but people take that WAY out of context. IN Matthew 5 38-39 He was commenting on the legal code of the day - based upon the original Code of Hammurabi - which quite literally required an eye for an eye. In it, legal punishments were quite directly written and equivalent. If a carpenter built a house and the house fell killing a family, the carpenter's family was put to death (much more effective than having thousands of building codes). If a man poked out another man's eye during a fight, his eye was plucked out. Jesus NEVER said it was wrong to protect one's family. Never.

Deep sorrow is not always accompanied by hysteria. A deeply broken heart can leave a person sullen and quiet. I think this is what necoconeco101 was witnessing. This is more likely than "emotional intelligence" or empathy. I doubt any parent would feel much empathy for their child's murderers.

And frankly, if someone shot my kid I would quietly wait, quietly find them, and quietly do things to them that make Hellraiser and American Psycho look like an episode of Winnie the Poo. No hysteria required. The deepest rages are silent ones.


Quite right you are ).
Posted 3/23/13


i don't believe in anything ).
Posted 3/23/13

Sociopa wrote:



i don't believe in anything ).


Good join the club.
Posted 3/23/13 , edited 3/23/13

K-onfan1 wrote:

Good join the club.


what club?
Posted 3/23/13 , edited 3/23/13
Can we dispense with the trolleyball?

The world has improved in some ways regarding diversity-tolerance and empathy, and it has gotten worse in others. It's a little like Jihad vs. McWorld: Despite xenophobes and "tribal" resistance to change, globalization will keep moving forward, for better and worse. How much in the direction of good or bad is a situational and a perceptual thing.

v There are agnostics, too.
Posted 3/23/13

Sociopa wrote:


K-onfan1 wrote:

Good join the club.


what club?


Atheist club?
Posted 3/23/13


Do they exist? ).
Posted 3/23/13

Sociopa wrote:



Do they exist? ).


We need more members.
Posted 3/23/13

K-onfan1 wrote:


Sociopa wrote:



Do they exist? ).


We need more members.


lol i hope you're not planning anything :-,
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