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Post Reply Why Non-Japanese Otakus should NEVER visit Japan
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Lived in japan several years and had several japanese friends.....citing Fast and furious was foolish...... and running into severely racists people who are vocal about it is really rare...
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If you're on Crunchyroll, you probably like anime. You might even like Japanese culture...including all the non-anime-related things. Some of you may want to actually go to Japan someday. I used to be like that. I always told myself that once I got a job I would start saving for a trip to Japan. Now, i'm spending my saved money. Why? Because I have no interest to go there. Why not? That's what I'm here to talk about and hopefully it changes YOUR mind as well about visiting our beloved Japan.

I have a friend who is so into anime and Japanese culture that he's spent literally the last 8 years of his life actually studying it in his free time. I suggested to him that we go to Japan together and he told me no way. I asked why and this is what he told me.

"Japanese people really don't like outsiders," he said. If you have seen the movie The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift you will have heard this word they have for them. It's called "gaijin". In that movie, while DK WAS indeed being a d**k, and most Japanese people wouldn't be in your face about it like DK was, his reaction wasn't un-relatable to one of a real Japanese society. Also, being an otaku adds insult to injury. It's hard to explain, but they view it as offensive for a gaijin to embrace that. My friend also told me, "They also haven't forgotten what the U.S. did to them in World War II, and they are still pretty pissed off about it."The United States killed over 800,000 Japanese citizens with the atomic bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. I honestly wouldn't have forgotten this easily as well.

The best way for me to explain this is to relate it to something us Americans have experienced.

I'm sure most Americans havn't forgotten about the tragedy that occured on September 11th, 2001. Most Americans were suspicious of any Muslim they saw on US soil after that. So picture this scenario.

It has been 1 year after the WTC attacks, and it is still fresh in Americans minds. Then, out in public, you spot a Muslim guy dressed in an American flag suit talking to some other Muslims how much he loves The Simpsons, Nicole Kidman and Budweiser.

Wouldn't that upset you a little bit? Of course, it is wrong to label all Muslims as terrorists because they make up a minute minority of the whole Muslim culture. I actually know a Muslim personally and he's actually one of the nicest guys I ever met.

All agenda about Muslims aside, the reaction that Japanese people have to Americans otakus is very similar to the reaction someone in the scenario I described would have. The only difference is they are already iffy about foreigners in the first place, and although its been almost 50 years since we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the time has not healed their wounds. At best, we are tolerated.

This is why I vowed not to go to Japan. My friend and I love and respect Japan so much that we refuse to disgrace their native land by stepping foot onto it. We gladly take the blame of our ancestors that ravished them in the 1940s and we will continue to serve their punishment until we can be forgiven...if such a thing is even possible.

So there you have it. That's why you should not go to Japan, especially if you are an American otaku...to show your true respect for the nation of Japan. If you say you love their culture but then disgrace it by setting foot there, you are really just a hypocrite, whether you realize it or not. If you REALLY love Japan, understand why you can't show your face there and admire them from a distance. If you are NOT from the U.S., it's still iffy to go there, but it probably won't be AS bad...especially if you have Japanese ancestry. This goes for saying if you ARE a U.S. citizen as well. Japanese people believe in blood ties. It won't lighten their feelings toward you significantly, but it probably will help.

So tell me what you guys think about this. Post some responses!


I think that's the older population your talking about there considering the majority of those who survived it aren't alive anymore. Also, I'm sorry, but 9/11 isn't in anyway comparable to the devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Also, the Muslim wearing an American flag suit who watches the Simpsons and drinks Budweiser would be the greatest and most hilarious thing I've ever seen.
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Posted 5/13/15
I'd understand why the older generations may be suspicious of Americans, but I'd like to think that the younger generations are more accepting, because they understand that you cannot generalize an entire demographic by the acts of a few
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Posted 5/13/15
Ever heard of Ameriboos? It's Japanese people who are obsessed with American culture. Your Fast and Furious non sense post hurts my brain. Leave it to Americans to make some sort of empty, arrogant, stupid generalization, ffs.
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This is pretty funny, in that the first thing that came to mind was a one sided conversation with a elderly drunken gentleman in a Kyoto pub around 1:30 AM. This place was called A-Bar, or so I was told, there was no sign and the entrance was up a flight of stairs on the back of a building, and it had all of the character one would expect from such a place.

The "conversation", as it was consisted of ramblings about the glory days of the German alliance, though at best only his grandfather would know for sure. He regaled me of the benefits of that, while sidestepping the end of the war entirely. I think In Hiroshima or Nagasaki someone might have seen it differently, but in this environment, there were only a few nods and questioning looks.

A few months later I managed to offend a foreigner by staring at him and it was more uncomfortable than my treatment at the hands of any other person I met, including drug dealers, yakuza, police, sho-bai peddlers, businessmen, city officials, etc.

Note: I may have resembled a travel worn character from Ranma by that point, so I can't say I blame him (no exaggeration, straw hat, linen clothes, giant backpack, give me a break, I was living in the countryside doing odd jobs for room and board).
Posted 5/13/15
They should go, everyone should see it at least once. I recommend they get grounded in their expectations first.
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Posted 5/13/15
Well, isn't that some stupid reasoning from two who never went there and therefore talking without actual experience and referencing some movie as evidence.

Good thing I aint an American anyway, or a otaku (whatever that word means)

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Who cares about Japanese culture? Some of us wanna go there purely to buy anime/manga merchandise.
As for the record, Japan has no right to hold a grudge against US. Not only did Japan deserve to be nuked, it even got rid of those damn dictators

....so i'm here to say sir the level of bullshit in your post is too high
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Posted 5/14/15
I still want to visit Japan, but not for anime related stuff. I just love traveling. The other places I want to visit is Spain, Germany, Australia and 2 lakes in Canada.
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You're nuts bro, Japanese people loved me. Sure there are a few dick heads, but that's everywhere, not just Japan. Maybe its just your personality that's abrasive?
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I've been to Japan, and I loved it, because it was exactly how i thought it would be, and it lived up to my expectations. You can't just genralise a whole entire population into thinking that they have the same thought processes, and you shouldn't let something like not feeling like you are very welcome from stopping you to travel to Japan, ever.
It's a beautiful place, and it has a tourist industry for a reason you know. I guess if you really don't want to annoy them, don't act like a total ignorant or insensitive tourist, and be respectful of their culture. Japan has a huge and rich culture, if you go there, I would 100% recommend checking out the traditional side of Japan as well.

Just learn a little bit about the country before you go. Learn about it past the anime and the manga. Just keep your wits about you, know the dos and don'ts, like for example, eating while walking around or while on the train is seen as impolite. As a foreigner, generally you have a bit of leeway, but you should still try your best. And if you can learn some of their language, even better. People in any country will always appreciate you trying to learn and embrace their language, rather than just expecting the whole damn world to know how to speak english.
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Posted 5/14/15 , edited 5/14/15
Im sure he's gotten the point or doesn't care anymore.
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Posted 5/14/15
Its kinda funny you would reference F&F because I became stuck on Japan years ago for the gearhead culture. While working for Tohatsu i had the opportunity to work alongside Technicians from Japan a few times an we always ended up discussing motorcycles the biggest thing i learned from those guys is that they want our imports as much as we want theirs. So at least as far as cars and bikes go American= Cool. Anime and Mangas are relatively new to me because i always saw reading fiction as a waste of time. So i cant really give an opinion on that.
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