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Post Reply Why Non-Japanese Otakus should NEVER visit Japan
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Posted 6/7/13
I actually agree it's a good idea to keep your fascination with anime hidden as a westerner in Japan, but that doesn't mean you can't love Japan for other reasons. Even though I consider myself an otaku (I won't be modest about it) and I am all-out crazy about everything anime, that is only a little tiny piece of what fascinates me about Japan. To put it another way anime=/=Japan. Japan is it's unique culture, history, food, extravagant architecture, people and philosophy. It's almost as if I disassociate anime from Japan as something I find in America, since I get plenty of it here, and the Japan I want to visit represents all those other aspects that I can't get anywhere else.

So I guess even if I were to give validity to the OP argument, it doesn't apply to me because my appreciation of Japan is of things I can only experience IN Japan. Sure I'll go shopping in Akihabara and anime manga stores wherever I find them, but that's just for fun and to see what's new. So yes I am planning on living there for a while and I'll be too busy anyway to do lots of shopping or sightseeing, but because of my appreciation for Japan's Japan-ness that I'll see everyday, just being there is like a dream. And I don't think any Japanese person would complain with that type of fascination with their home.
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Posted 6/8/13
Go there to soak up their awesome dying culture. Check out Akihabara a couple times. Go to the soap spa brothels. Camp alone at night deep inside Aokigahara forest maybe stop someone about to kill themselves. Try out all the food and drinks. Go for hikes through Japan/Nippon to abandoned buildings and villages. Clean up some shrines and graves.




Japan/Nippon fascinates me to no end. Check out this guys channel to get a better idea of the country: http://www.youtube.com/user/AbandonedJapan
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Posted 6/8/13
Glad this doesn't apply to my folks. I'm an African American. One of the reasons the Pearl Harbor attacks were initiated was that my people were treated so poorly here. I'm not happy about either of those scenarios, though.

I think a better example would be of a White person walking into a traditionally Black neighborhood, raising his fist and shouting "Black Power!" It could be seen as a kind of mockery.

Besides, America has been open to (most) people coming over and adopting American (traditionally Western) customs. It's part of our culture. We appreciate that. It's just not the same for the Japanese.

I'll still go to Japan. I'll just act normally and let them all know that I know I'm a tourist, and won't try to go into their Japanese-only restaurants and bars. I won't behave as though I know everything about their culture. I'll probably also go with a few friends from work, just to make the time fun.
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i don't know, man. The Japanese government offered free exchange programs around the world. Our school got chosen and i'm pretty sure they chose US schools as well. I think they'll be more hesitant toward you since most of them never saw a foreigner but if your kind then they'll think your cool and appreciate you visiting.
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Posted 6/9/13
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

This thread shouldn't be allowed to exist.
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Posted 6/22/13
They wouldn't get mad at me I am south asian lol
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Posted 6/22/13
im mexican.. they aint gonna say shiiieeeet
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Posted 6/22/13
I think anyone should actually go to Japan to experience it first hand, and not make such assumptions.

If they end up being rude or prejudice to you, that's fine, you don't have to ever come back. But, again, it's foolish to make an assumption that they are all a certain way before experiencing it for yourself.
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Posted 6/23/13

KaruvinShiro wrote:

I think anyone should actually go to Japan to experience it first hand, and not make such assumptions.

If they end up being rude or prejudice to you, that's fine, you don't have to ever come back. But, again, it's foolish to make an assumption that they are all a certain way before experiencing it for yourself.


i agree with this person totally and besides ive allways wanted to vist japan if they not like me so be it
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i don't know how many Japanese folks are on here but as Japanese, this is probably the worst generalization & stereotyping I've ever read. Japanese or any other cultures never like people coming into their country like they own the place.
majority of Japanese don't hold grudge about WWII. Like someone mentioned, Japanese government have a program called JET program where they pay English speaker to go to Japan to teach English for up to 4 years.
I've been living between Tokyo & Tennessee since 1989 so I've taken many of my American friends back to Japan and my cousins here to US.
There are many cultural differences but go to another country with humble respect & open mind, don't go in there like many failed world traveler by acting & having the mind set of superiority complex.

I really hope some of you guys that haven't been to Japan to get a chance to go there, many Japanese cities that's mentioned in anime has tours and such which is kind of entertaining ^_^
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It's not surprising to here someone say this most of japan is not a welcoming place. If you watch tv, you hear about it but might wonder why do they like to use us in their anime. In fact, Japan doesn't care about that because most of them afterwards invited and befriended. Some of the soldiers. Some even stayed or when to Japan and married over there. In fact they would love to come here and see New York, Seattle, and Philadelphia. The major cites, other there they love our money. American in most countries are loved except France and Russia they think we are pushing our culture onto them. But when you don't bring up politics, they love to talk. I've have many friends worldwide. And all we do is converse about things you would with Americans. Not bringing up anime our their culture is the best way to get accepted by them. Most of them listen to the musicians and watch American actors. We're in interest to them, not that they are so into us. But they don't date, study and work and have children. Stereotype. That they are the smartest people in the world, stereotype. That they still hold granges against America. Stereotype. It's not even something they care about anymore. in fact, they come all the way over here all the time. We can go to any country we want, but they have a hard time coming here. That's only thing that pisses any country off. Its okay for you to take our money but not our people. It considered to be screwed up.
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A friend from school recently came back from Japan he said every one was polite and welcoming. One night he was at a bar and an elderly gentleman wouldn't stop staring , he watched my friend for a while and when he went up to get a drink from the bar the elderly gentle man asked "are you american?" My Friend responded "No I'm Australian" the gentleman soon had tears welling up and he got down bowing to my friend and started apologising for pearl harbour as he had been involved with the attack , My friend helped him back to his feet and sat with him the rest of the night talking to make sure he was ok.

Plus my grandfather had a sword taken from a Japanese solider in WWII he spent a bit of money to find the family it belonged to
he travelled over there to return it himself he met the son of the man it had belonged to and his family , he said they were mostly speechless as his translator explained the situation , My grandfather bowed and apologised for taking it the son reached out and took my grandfathers hand and held it tightly with tears in his eyes and my grandfather said he himself broke down then , he said they were the most gracious and forgiving people he had ever met.

I wont ever travel to Japan myself ( I have trouble leaving my own state let alone travelling to another country) but I have a high respect for the people and culture.
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Posted 6/29/13
Wow, just.....wow.

I'm American, been living in Japan for the last 10 years, wife is Japanese, and I've never read such a huge load of BS about foreigners in Japan until now.

I've PROUDLY worn my otaku personality and not hidden it whatsoever the entire time I've been here. I visit Akiba at least once a month as well as smaller local shops. The vast majority of my friends are Japanese, and about 20% of them are otaku as well.

Visit Japan, if you like it, try to live here, that's what I did. Now I own a home and land here and dread going back to the US. I'm actually returning to the US for a career change and I would love to stay in Japan if I could, but moving back to the US is best for my wife and kids at this point. I've been back to the US a few times over the years, and I hate it every time just because I've learned to love almost everything about the Japanese culture.

Japan is a great place to visit and absolutely no one should take the original post here seriously.
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Posted 6/29/13
Well I have been to japan many, many times. I have also been to the Meka of otaku places. And as a gaijin otaku in japan I was told that as long as you do not act a fool. you will not be treated as BAKA.
I have many Japanese friends male as well as female. I have never come across any that hated americans especially the older Japanese ones once the beer and sake started flowing.
Stan lee is also liked over there.
Just start talking about one piece and bleach. to break the ice. the Japanese are a proud people.
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rukialuvr93 wrote:

If you're on Crunchyroll, you probably like anime. You might even like Japanese culture...including all the non-anime-related things. Some of you may want to actually go to Japan someday. I used to be like that. I always told myself that once I got a job I would start saving for a trip to Japan. Now, i'm spending my saved money. Why? Because I have no interest to go there. Why not? That's what I'm here to talk about and hopefully it changes YOUR mind as well about visiting our beloved Japan.

I have a friend who is so into anime and Japanese culture that he's spent literally the last 8 years of his life actually studying it in his free time. I suggested to him that we go to Japan together and he told me no way. I asked why and this is what he told me.

"Japanese people really don't like outsiders," he said. If you have seen the movie The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift you will have heard this word they have for them. It's called "gaijin". In that movie, while DK WAS indeed being a d**k, and most Japanese people wouldn't be in your face about it like DK was, his reaction wasn't un-relatable to one of a real Japanese society. Also, being an otaku adds insult to injury. It's hard to explain, but they view it as offensive for a gaijin to embrace that. My friend also told me, "They also haven't forgotten what the U.S. did to them in World War II, and they are still pretty pissed off about it."The United States killed over 800,000 Japanese citizens with the atomic bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. I honestly wouldn't have forgotten this easily as well.

The best way for me to explain this is to relate it to something us Americans have experienced.

I'm sure most Americans havn't forgotten about the tragedy that occured on September 11th, 2001. Most Americans were suspicious of any Muslim they saw on US soil after that. So picture this scenario.

It has been 1 year after the WTC attacks, and it is still fresh in Americans minds. Then, out in public, you spot a Muslim guy dressed in an American flag suit talking to some other Muslims how much he loves The Simpsons, Nicole Kidman and Budweiser.

Wouldn't that upset you a little bit? Of course, it is wrong to label all Muslims as terrorists because they make up a minute minority of the whole Muslim culture. I actually know a Muslim personally and he's actually one of the nicest guys I ever met.

All agenda about Muslims aside, the reaction that Japanese people have to Americans otakus is very similar to the reaction someone in the scenario I described would have. The only difference is they are already iffy about foreigners in the first place, and although its been almost 50 years since we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the time has not healed their wounds. At best, we are tolerated.

This is why I vowed not to go to Japan. My friend and I love and respect Japan so much that we refuse to disgrace their native land by stepping foot onto it. We gladly take the blame of our ancestors that ravished them in the 1940s and we will continue to serve their punishment until we can be forgiven...if such a thing is even possible.

So there you have it. That's why you should not go to Japan, especially if you are an American otaku...to show your true respect for the nation of Japan. If you say you love their culture but then disgrace it by setting foot there, you are really just a hypocrite, whether you realize it or not. If you REALLY love Japan, understand why you can't show your face there and admire them from a distance. If you are NOT from the U.S., it's still iffy to go there, but it probably won't be AS bad...especially if you have Japanese ancestry. This goes for saying if you ARE a U.S. citizen as well. Japanese people believe in blood ties. It won't lighten their feelings toward you significantly, but it probably will help.

So tell me what you guys think about this. Post some responses!


This whole post is full of ****. It's a stereotype. Some people in Japan feel this way, but it's like 1-2% of the entire population. Tell your friend he's wrong and to go to Japan immediately. Its an opporunity to not be missed.
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