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Posted 4/5/13 , edited 4/5/13

hyjinx17 wrote:

Did the manga ever finish? The last chapter I saw updated was when they were at the festival doing *things*


It's still ongoing. Recently, the translations have picked up to chapter 43 but the raws are still ongoing.


Shrapnel893 wrote:

I believe it is still ongoing. I also believe it's more appropriate to call it The Flowers of Evil instead of just Flowers of Evil because there is a manwha with the same name, which focuses on incest. Well then again they both reference the same poem so I guess it can't really be helped.


I kinda agree with this although that other manwha is a title that I'm pretty sure not too many people are aware of. There's also not an anime adaptation of the series.
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Posted 4/5/13
The raws and english translations are both up to date. Prozess has been translating them as of late.
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Posted 4/7/13
Just look at the artwork! Generic or not this is how it should have been done.
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I think that the animation was done this way for a reason. I mean even though the characters thenselves are very poorly drawn, the detail fo the backdrops are amazing, which makes me think there is significance to the way the characters look
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Luke1215 wrote:

Just look at the artwork! Generic or not this is how it should have been done.


Thanks for the fix.

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I tend to believe anime is balanced in two ways. The first being story and plot. The second graphics and animation. A synonymous relationship exist between such that allows the audience to appreciate anime. Story and plot has deep meaning quote-on-quote as something the audience is forced to engage in order to understand the basic concepts of what is being portrayed. We can say that graphics and animation is a superficial aspect of anime some might argue it is not; however, in a broad sense it is what the audience looks at and does not give a second thought to why it looks that way, usually.

Now Aku no Hana aka The Flowers of Evil is supposed to have a great story mostly due to people's experience with the manga (I personally have not read it). The graphics has put SO many people off those with and without experience to the story that it is hard to appreciate anything. The balance has been so heavily shifted towards the graphics no one can appreciate the story because most everyone is repulsed by the graphics. Myself included.

So in this case graphics is so superficial the "normal" audience is just not used to it. I encourage those of you that can see past this superficiality that is the graphics to have an wonderful experience with this anime and to further your services and try to convince others to give this anime another try including me.

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They should have just made it a drama if they wanted the characters to look real (Edit: Or at least went for a higher budget so they could do rotoscoping that doesn't look as terrible as this). This show is so hard to watch when everyone looks like giant blobs that resemble real humans. There's uncanny valley, and then there is this.

I guess shooting to make your audience uncomfortable is one thing, but I'm not going to watch episode 2 because the animation just makes this show unwatchable to me. So they shot a little too high.
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I feel like the only person who likes the art and animation. It is different, but different does not mean bad. It will take a bit of getting used to, but then again so did Gankutsuo, and I loved that one.
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Willwatch4food wrote:

I feel like the only person who likes the art and animation. It is different, but different does not mean bad. It will take a bit of getting used to, but then again so did Gankutsuo, and I loved that one.


Yeah, but Gankutsuo was uncomfortable in a really pretty kind of way. This is just... ugh.
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I have 2 questions on my mind about how they are going to work the anime:







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Ok for those of you who are ragging on this show for the characters being "drawn poorly" this was done in rotoscope fashion. This is where the animators draw over live action stills, frame by frame. It fits the anime, because the characters in the manga look similar.

If anime didn't evolve and get better and have been art styles, it would be stagnant, and would still look like anime from the 60s.

If you cant look past the artistic style they went for, for a creepy manga, then you will miss out on a great story.
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Ok, I find it hard that people don't seem to understand that the character designs and animation were made to look that way on purpose. It wasn't that they *thought* the animation looked good; they knew that it looked ugly, and that was the point. To those who have not read the manga, it IS an ugly story.

As for why they didn't make this live action? Well, there are just certain things and certain emotions that can not be expressed through the medium of live action. As fans of the manga know, there are parts of this story which just would not work in the live action medium.

Lastly, here is a link to a translated interview with both the anime director and the mangaka. It is interesting and highly informative, especially if you are wondering about the decisions they made in the anime.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169

So...... 1. You can not like the animation style. Yes, that is fine with me because everyone has opinions. But to say that the director "screwed up" is inaccurate and irresponsible. Use your heads.

2. Live action just wouldn't work. I haven't seen too many Japanese Live Action dramas, but I HIGHLY doubt that if it was made using live action it could evoke the same creepy atmosphere. Unless they made Nakamura look like Sadako or something, but that would be a betrayal of the manga.

Awesome! Thanks for listening!
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Meh, the first episode also lacked in the storyline department as well. I've read the manga and they only animated about 18 pages I think. It lacked that sense of psychological way of presenting itself. Oh well, there's still new episodes this week so I'm somewhat curious on what direction this will go.

So far though, it's not a good start imo.
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stark700 wrote:

Meh, the first episode also lacked in the storyline department as well. I've read the manga and they only animated about 18 pages I think. It lacked that sense of psychological way of presenting itself. Oh well, there's still new episodes this week so I'm somewhat curious on what direction this will go.

So far though, it's not a good start imo.


I have to agree with that. While the atmosphere was presented nicely, the plot didn't really go anywhere -_-. A little disappointing in that respect.
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Even though I think Stark is a bit harsh with that assessment I agree that, if I hadnt read the original, I would probly be lost as to whats going on as well... no where near as lost as Amnesia though (lol). But more like... "hes in love with this girl, and this thing keeps shaking and... umm... so whats the point?"

It's more like an artsy-indie film than an big-budget anime like were used to.
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lol rotoscope actual R scene that'll be the day also someone want to give me a compelling argument to why i should watch this
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