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lol rotoscope actual R scene that'll be the day also someone want to give me a compelling argument to why i should watch this


...... Um. Sure. Okay! "has no clue what that post meant"

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lol rotoscope actual R scene that'll be the day also someone want to give me a compelling argument to why i should watch this


You forget what country this show comes from.
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kitsuneshoujo wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

lol rotoscope actual R scene that'll be the day also someone want to give me a compelling argument to why i should watch this


You forget what country this show comes from.


yeah in like 5 days... I think.
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I've never really been a fan of rotoscoping; always found it too off-putting. I don't like for an animation style to distract me from a story.

It also feels more like I'm watching a rotoscoped animation about Japanese people instead of an anime. Even though it's a matter of semantics and any sort of animation that comes out of Japan would be classified as "anime," it's still just a feeling I get for some reason.

Anyways though. I think I'll watch this series, it seems sort of weird and interesting.
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I'll give it this, those are some of the most beautiful backgrounds I've ever seen in anime.

the characters...... I do believe the "vaguely human-shaped blobs" description is pretty accurate. hell, they don't even have faces until a certain distance from the shot. things like clothing and hair are very poorly done, constantly jittering, even when the people are being completely still.
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Am I the only one who doesn't give a damn about the animation sure its different, but that doesn't mean its a bad thing, plus all that really matters is the story (plus you don't "judge a book by its cover")
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I've read nearly nothing about this, but I am so in after one episode. Definitely artsy, and while that isn't what I must always have, it's often a plus for me. The whole tone of the piece--the unusual animation style (reminds me of rotoscoping in how it looks), the pace, the music, it's all really beautiful in its ugly way, and has me holding my breath. I want more. And I want to see where it goes and don't even care if it goes nowhere.

ETA. Just read the other posts in this discussion. So it is rotoscope.
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kitsuneshoujo wrote:

Ok for those of you who are ragging on this show for the characters being "drawn poorly" this was done in rotoscope fashion. This is where the animators draw over live action stills, frame by frame. It fits the anime, because the characters in the manga look similar.

If anime didn't evolve and get better and have been art styles, it would be stagnant, and would still look like anime from the 60s.

If you cant look past the artistic style they went for, for a creepy manga, then you will miss out on a great story.



Why didn't they just make this into a drama then?
I would watch it in a heartbeat, since people seem to praise its story.



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I dunno, its just not very well drawn, artistic or not its just poorly done
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This show is easily the best thing in anime for a good while.
The mangaka and the director expected some mini-backlash because the design is so different to the manga, and they're okay with that.
It does more to move the medium forward than 95% of the stuff on CR, it's just a shame many people won't appreciate it.
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Even though I think Stark is a bit harsh with that assessment I agree that, if I hadnt read the original, I would probly be lost as to whats going on as well... no where near as lost as Amnesia though (lol). But more like... "hes in love with this girl, and this thing keeps shaking and... umm... so whats the point?"

It's more like an artsy-indie film than an big-budget anime like were used to.


Watch it a second time, the tone is quite subtle so you might sit there thinking 'Why is nothing happening?' but there totally is;

-There are scenes of repetition which reflect the mundanity of Kasuga's daily life (the walking to school with the same people, the exact same shots)
- Nakamura is literally a still in the back of the glass until she is mentioned, and when she comes to life, she is unattractive and has no respect for the 'norm' which Kasuga and his friends are a part of (she didn't even bother to attempt the test.)
- Saeki is shown in glimpses, where she shares a moment of eye contact and is always featured alongside the poetry of Baudelaire, she is the embodiment of what Kasuga admires and desires in a woman, she is his ideal, but he doesn't act on it. She aces her tests and is basically the complete opposite to Nakamura.
- Throughout the episode, the flower keeps trembling and shaking ominously because it's symbolic of something inside of Kasuga that is awakening, there is a change occurring - and when Kasuga sees Saeki's gym uniform drop to the floor, it triggers a darker impulse inside him and the flower blooms at the end.

The second episode hint suggests that Nakamura saw Kasuga take Saeki's gym uniform, and she enters into some sort of 'contract' with him or else she'll tell everyone he stole it, because she sees that darker impulse inside Kasuga that she feels herself.

As you said, the whole idea is a bit atypical of anime, but that's why it's so great
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Really wanted to like this one. I heard about the animation, the rotoscoping and don't generally like it but that part wasn't so bad. I just found the pacing very slow. I skipped parts. I never skip parts... Maybe I'm just in a bad Monday mood? Perhaps I will try it again later in the week.. I didn't like Arata much today either.
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I feel as if I were to watch this I would be disappointed...since i've read the manga. On the other hand, what the hell... its anime.
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Posted 4/8/13 , edited 4/8/13

hgibson88 wrote:

This show is easily the best thing in anime for a good while.
The mangaka and the director expected some mini-backlash because the design is so different to the manga, and they're okay with that.
It does more to move the medium forward than 95% of the stuff on CR, it's just a shame many people won't appreciate it.


There is a difference between using a new medium effectively and using the medium to repulse everyone. I. I sir have been redirected towards reading the manga instead of watching the anime. I am not sure if that is a success, but I would personally not buy the BD's given this new medium and when the success of any anime is measured by sales. I would say this anime is a failure.
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Posted 4/8/13 , edited 4/8/13

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I've never really been a fan of rotoscoping; always found it too off-putting. I don't like for an animation style to distract me from a story.

It also feels more like I'm watching a rotoscoped animation about Japanese people instead of an anime. Even though it's a matter of semantics and any sort of animation that comes out of Japan would be classified as "anime," it's still just a feeling I get for some reason.

Anyways though. I think I'll watch this series, it seems sort of weird and interesting.


yep, I agree with you all the way. I also found the episode and art style a little "off-putting" but, I have this strange feeling in my gut that the director might just be trolling us and the entire animation might change when it starts getting more intense...that's just my gut instinct so don't hold me to it...



I just thought that this scene was hilarious, I have no idea who that person is but i just have this weird feeling that we're being duped lol
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