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@Morbidhanson,

The evidence wasn't necessary for Nakamura to blackmail Kasuga. His own guilty conscience was enough. (Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Nakamura was the one who tipped off the teachers with the made-up thief sighting. )

He couldn't face Saeki even though she said she forgave him because he felt too shameful and undeserving of her. The fact that she didn't mind all that horrible stuff he had done probably made him feel even worse about himself.

Wrecking the classroom was supposed to expose Kasuga of his crimes. (Unexpectedly to him but not to Nakamura apparently, his name was painted over...) When he got home, he was bracing himself for scorn from everyone including his parents. No point in discarding your murder weapon when you've basically turned yourself in, right?

I agree that he's trying too hard to be pure, which is probably why Nakamura is trying to get him forsake that facade.


I am pretty sure Nakamura had something to do with the thief story. It has to be her. Yeah, I find it funny that most of Kasuga's problems are amplified by the purity of his intentions. The creator of this anime has a really cool concept in making him more and more impure the harder he tries to be so pure. Nakamura is sick.
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Posted 6/10/13 , edited 6/10/13
Edit: Hmm got a little excited there. Pseudo-intellectual rants ftw.

After that last episode I'm fully confident in labelling this my favourite show this year. Saeki and Nakamura effectively dichotomise Kasuga's shallow identity with vigorous, ruthless precision, leaving in its place an empty shell in which only intrinsic self-loathing subsists with certainty. They could almost be seen to constitute some kind of biblical metaphor; the demonic apparition, advocate of fully embracing that dark, distinctly human side of the soul and in contrast (or perhaps in league with) an angel propagating some inbred civility and normalcy, on the side of social reality. The difference is that these two aren't simply figments of Kasuga's twisted psyche, assuming their rightful place on each shoulder, but real people capable of vulnerability and pain. Complex is an understatement.

Deliciously nausea-inducing. Will be picking up the manga after the series ends.
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I was totally picking up on that split as well. Those Angel / Devil conscience conversations in the old Looney Toon cartoons came to mind! I think what was interesting (and ultimately expected) was that


Somehow, I still think Kasuga will find it impossible to not check out "the other side" though.
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Was that the last episode in the series? I'm so torn about episode 10.... I understand where the guy is coming from, often in high school i would get with a girl that i found amazing, after getting to know her for real i start to hate how weak minded the girl was and how dependent on others acceptance she was. Kind of makes me sick. But i need closure!!!!!!!!!! This cant end. I need to find out what all the characters do after that event.
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Blueeyez89 wrote: Was that the last episode in the series? I'm so torn about episode 10.... I understand where the guy is coming from, often in high school i would get with a girl that i found amazing, after getting to know her for real i start to hate how weak minded the girl was and how dependent on others acceptance she was. Kind of makes me sick. But i need closure!!!!!!!!!! This cant end. I need to find out what all the characters do after that event.
Well first, I'm pretty sure there are three more episodes, since it actually tells us at the beginning there are thirteen. As for his breakdown, I predicted that his problem with Saeki was that she wasn't the pure angel he'd imagined, so I'm not surprised he rejected her. But I am surprised he rejected Nakamura. And now that we've had our Lord of the Flies ending with the adults putting an end to the battle, I do wonder what the fallout will be.
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Episode 10 had to be the most amazing episode I have ever seen in a anime ever or at least top 5. Every scene was amazing. You could fee both sides tearing at each other silently. Also The anime showed more then what I got from the manga. I didnt see Nakumara cry or seem as upset about Bro being indesicive but in the anime I clearly saw that he fucked up with both sides. 1000/10
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If you read the manga and get ahead of the present storyline in the anime you can gain insight into why Kasuga acts the way he does around these two girls. I won't spoil it for you. The manga is ongoing and equally a very compelling read, you won't be disappointed.
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My heart was breaking while watching episode 10.

I feel like this episode might have been titled "Confessions", since we get some insight into what the three characters are thinking. Kasuga doesn't really understand the literature he reads and he doesn't know what kind of person he should be. Saeki wants to be worthy of being Kasuga's girlfriend. And Nakamura... well she just wants another 'sicko' to keep her company. But even with these confessions, it is still a long way before any of these characters really sort out their problems (if ever).

I liked how at the end of this episode the roles were reversed and it's Nakamura who is running away this time. I could see how some people might dismiss this as "oh a typical love triangle". And I agree, it is for the most part. But I think each characters' psychological nuance (their thought process, their attitude toward others, about the town, how they live etc.) really makes this love triangle an emotional ride. Not to mention that two of them are effectively criminals. (See P.S.)

I look forward to a possible interrogation scene and how the adult characters react to the truth. They could be caring and comforting.. or they could be harsh and angry. What adults say and do to children has a big effect on them, so that will be interesting to see.

P.S. Actually I don't know how Japanese law treats offences by minors, or if the school would have authority on how to punish Kasuga and Nakamura for the vandalism. So it might not be technically correct to call Kasuga and Nakamura criminals.
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latest chapter was meh
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Episode 11

I know all that slow walking, walking is something very boring to some, but I just love it. It so suits the contemplative, sink a little deeper, mood.

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Posted 6/18/13
Takao is just all kinds of messed up, isn't he? lol

I can't say I see this ending well.
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Posted 6/18/13 , edited 6/18/13

deadpanditto wrote:

Takao is just all kinds of messed up, isn't he? lol

I can't say I see this ending well.

I couldn't agree more. And if u saw the preview for the next ep, u see Takao saying "I'll do my best to be a real pervert!" So I guess "the contract" (between Nakamura and Takao) shall be renewed!
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Atmosphere, imagery, psychology, and tension. I look forward to writing up a five-star review for this show after it ends.
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I just wish the actors were younger since they went for rotoscoping. When Saeki asks the guy if he has seen a middle school guy and girl come by on a bicycle it just seems wrong as they are SO obviously not middle schoolers...

Otherwise the story is really good and the last episode showed why even with rotoscoping it was good to animate the show rather than doing it light action. Otherwise they would have needed some animation/CGI budget.

The dream sequence, the flowers was really cool even if the episode felt a little slow.
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Posted 6/19/13 , edited 6/19/13
After the 1st several eps, I kinda thought all 3 main characters, Takao, Nakamura and Saeki would end up delinquents living abnormal lifestyles, but after this latest ep, it seems there will only be 2 now.


hpulley wrote:

I just wish the actors were younger since they went for rotoscoping. When Saeki asks the guy if he has seen a middle school guy and girl come by on a bicycle it just seems wrong as they are SO obviously not middle schoolers...

I went back and re-watched that scene out of curiosity, and it seems Saeki asks the guy at first if he's seen a middle school boy, then changes it to just a boy and a girl, though she could have meant middle school boy and girl and prolly did. The way I see it, perhaps Saeki sees Takao as a middle school boy (and that's why she really likes him)! xP j/k Also, in that same ep, was Takao's stripping scene (part 2). All I can say about that is that he needs to start wearing a belt (that requires a key to take off) so that people can't just pull his pants down, lol. He should've learned the 1st time, lol. I mean, isn't that why all us guys wear belts in the first place - so that people can't just randomly pull our pants down and make a spectacle of us?!?
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