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Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13

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http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18109.html



About this, I only watched the anime, what was the Meruru ring scene about? Did it hold much significance in advancing the story?




Posted 8/19/13
Maybe if the Author of Oriemo went to another publisher they would accept it? I Don't know enough info if he can do that, but id really like to see the proper ending in the anime, it just doesn't feel right, not at all. I accepted the ending, but not in a full way like I always do with good anime's I watch. This anime didn't have the true 100% ending. why does life have to be so cruel q.q
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As for "weakness" of storytelling for main characters, it is an intentional effect to keep viewers on their toes. It wouldn't be much fun to know immediately who Kyousuke liked, in fact, that would ruin the whole desire to watch this show, and imagine all of the fun guessing from the fan base about who he liked that would have never existed, the show just wouldn't work without it.

So, all in all, he did what he could and then some, and I'm happy.


No it wasn't, it was just bad writing ;p

That's kind of the whole problem here, we ended up with the pairing that made the least amount of sense and had the worst arc of development. As for the "fun of fan guessing", yeah....no. Thats been more of a total online clusterfark. As I recall the author was getting death threats was he not? =p

See, the problem is there's a reason Kyo would like Kuroneko, there's a reason he would like Ayase. There's no reason he would like Kirino. He just suddenly does for no reason and visa versa. The author stuck in a final reveal for Kirino to show she harboured feelings all along, but didn't do much to show those feelings over the course of the show. While, conversely, he did nothing whatsoever to show why Kyo would end up liking Kirino. Especially in the face of the social taboo.

Its just bad writing. Kyo harboured feelings for Kuroneko and certainly lusted after Ayase. But there was nothing really towards Kirino that could not be normal sibling affection. There was no arc or build up too it. The author just flicked Kyo's incest switch in the third act. He knew how he wanted it to end, but ultimately wasn't able to write a good overall direction towards that end. Remember, the author admitted to hating Kirino as well and only came to like her right towards the end of his series.

In essence, while I believe that he planned on Kyo x Kirino from the beginning, his own series got away from him and by the time he realized he had to end it, he had to rush it due to the anime schedule. Hence the weird bizzarro world tone of the OVAs. It was too late for him to use the not blood related twist as he was out of time to set it up and he felt it would be a cope out this late into the story. But the publisher and studio weren't about to let him go all Koi Kaze on them either.

Basically, it got away from him and he ended up writing himself into a corner than ran out of time. Now he seems to have washed his hands of the series and doesn't want to revisit it to improve on anything.



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No it wasn't, it was just bad writing ;p



Spoilers my man, spoilers. Make sure to put that in a tag so you don't spoil things for others. Although there have been so many posting without putting any spoiler tags since the OVAs aired, I'd be surprised if anyone DIDN'T know the ending by now. Even if they hadn't watched them lol.
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^Please read the LNs before spouting nonsense mate, really. Everything builds perfectly to the ending. Sick and tired of this nonsense being said over and over again. If you can connect the dots then you can clearly see it, if not then you clearly lack reading comprehension. The bitter truth is showing now, people accusing the author for ''bad writing'' and ''no clear build-up to the end'' since their ''girl'' didn't ''win''. You people are just, let me say it, pathetic.
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That's what I say.

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This is a translation of the author's view on the last episodes:

Wow, just wow. They went against him in both the LN and anime.
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^Please read the LNs before spouting nonsense mate, really. Everything builds perfectly to the ending. Sick and tired of this nonsense being said over and over again. If you can connect the dots then you can clearly see it, if not then you clearly lack reading comprehension. The bitter truth is showing now, people accusing the author for ''bad writing'' and ''no clear build-up to the end'' since their ''girl'' didn't ''win''. You people are just, let me say it, pathetic.


....Right. Sorry, I wasn't aware I was raising a valid criticism because I had a favourite girl and my hopes were crushed and that I was making most of it up instead of repeat what the author said in interviews about why it ended up the way it did.

You have my thanks, kind sir. Here I thought that was my post, but clearly it was some imaginary construct pretending to be me! What would we have done without you to unveil its true nefarious motivations.

=p

Look, the fact of the matter is this was a bad ending and even the author knows it. He couldn't do what he wanted to do, he couldn't do what fans in any particular camp wanted him to do. He had to rush it and in doing so had to ignore all of the problems he had not yet had time to address in the story to reach the conclusion he wanted. That's bad writing. Now, its not entirely his fault as he was under a lot of duress from the publisher, studio and fans and was under a time constraint. But that doesn't change the fact that the end product of the finale is not particularly well written nor the fact he doesn't want to go back and do anything about it. I think the whole affair may have stressed him out to the point he doesn't want to go back to it judging by interviews.

As was mentioned, what we got was not a 100% conclusion. For anyone, regardless of which girl they were rooting for if indeed that is why they were watching.

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^Please read the LNs before spouting nonsense mate, really. Everything builds perfectly to the ending. Sick and tired of this nonsense being said over and over again. If you can connect the dots then you can clearly see it, if not then you clearly lack reading comprehension. The bitter truth is showing now, people accusing the author for ''bad writing'' and ''no clear build-up to the end'' since their ''girl'' didn't ''win''. You people are just, let me say it, pathetic.


Really, the point is, is that the anime and LN are two different things. It's like when people tried to compare Man of Steel to the Superman comics. You've got to take them each for what they are. The LN may be great, I don't know because I haven't read them, but the anime's ending sucked.
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Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13

RVP11 wrote:

^Please read the LNs before spouting nonsense mate, really. Everything builds perfectly to the ending. Sick and tired of this nonsense being said over and over again. If you can connect the dots then you can clearly see it, if not then you clearly lack reading comprehension. The bitter truth is showing now, people accusing the author for ''bad writing'' and ''no clear build-up to the end'' since their ''girl'' didn't ''win''. You people are just, let me say it, pathetic.


"The book does it better" does not excuse the flaws of the adaptation. It's great that the book explained things so succinctly, but that doesn't make it OK for the anime to fail to do so.

Would you really tell someone, "Yeah the movie left out some important details that made the ending nonsensical, but if people would just listen to the audiobook by Morgan Freeman they'd understand everything, so the movie deserves an Oscar."
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That was surreal. It was like I was watching Bizzaro World with Manami as the only normal person in the entire show.


You sir, are perfect.
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That was surreal. It was like I was watching Bizzaro World with Manami as the only normal person in the entire show.


So much *this.*

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Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13

runec wrote:


RVP11 wrote:

^Please read the LNs before spouting nonsense mate, really. Everything builds perfectly to the ending. Sick and tired of this nonsense being said over and over again. If you can connect the dots then you can clearly see it, if not then you clearly lack reading comprehension. The bitter truth is showing now, people accusing the author for ''bad writing'' and ''no clear build-up to the end'' since their ''girl'' didn't ''win''. You people are just, let me say it, pathetic.








Edited with spoilers for your previous post.
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True end right here...

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I have mixed feelings about the ending. I am no fan of incest but quite honestly it didn't feel like incest too much but more of a fling, they really didn't do anything too extreme it seemed which was good. It would of probably appealed better with the crowd if Kirino was his Step Sister so there wouldn't be much backlash. In the end I liked it, it was gross but it was good story if not slightly unrealistic. I liked out of every character in the series Manami was the only one with any common sense to do something about their relationship everyone else just let it happen.


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True end right here...



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