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I knew we'd hear about the dub before the second season. I won't get too excited but I won't get upset either about it.



...seriously?

Given the current pace of the manga, I'm not expecting season 2 until 2015 at the earliest.

And that there's no reason not to have the dub ready by 2014.


Yeah the next arc is like right after the end of season 1 if I remember, and I can't see them stretching that out much farther than 13 episodes, and right after that is pretty much the last 3 - 4 chapters which is the current arc. So at most they could do a 1 cour anime, but the problem with that is that the arc after the anime just leads into the arc after that arc. Yeah S2 is impossible right now.
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Honestly, I'm a little excited about the dub but I'll try not to get too excited. I see no point in setting my expectations high like some people. I'm just curious to know which character Johnny Young Bosch will voice along with Todd Haberkorn and Vic too.

Whether you hate/dislike or like/love dubs isn't really my problem. The only thing we both know is that there will be dubs. I can not wait to season two of SnK.
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If you're going to respond to this post, then please at least address all the points I make, rather than picking and choosing which parts you'll respond to. Point out any fallacies in any arguments I make. PROVE to me that you're right and I'm wrong in the most thorough of all manners.

I've found myself pretty disappointed with Attack on Titan. It's not an anime series that deserves all the attention it gets.

Before I begin, let me explain what I like about the show:

- The action sequences are top-notch. I don't think there's a lot more I can say other than that. Anyone who's watched a few clips of the show can agree with me on this one.

- The animation is superb. I especially like the crazy ways some of the titans move around, like in Expedition 57, where Sasha comes across that titan that breaks the formation by crawling about on all fours with a scowl on its face.

- The art style is amazing. All the character designs are pretty good. The designs of the titan shifters are great as well. However, I wish there was more diversity among the titans, instead of just having naked bodies with differing hairstyles, proportioning, sizes and expressions. Maybe have a few titans that are closer to the Titans of ancient Greek lore?

- The soundtrack is decent. I'm not too fond of J-Pop anymore, but it suffices. The music played during the action scenes is quite fitting.

- The enigma surrounding the world of Attack on Titan is its greatest strength AND its greatest weakness. In some moments, the suspense of what happens next will keep you on edge, because you don't really know a lot. Compare that to an anime like Code Geass, where the entire history was given out in the first five minutes of the pilot episode.

Now, let's get on with why this show doesn't deserve the hype:

Around December, a lot of my friends kept telling me to watch it, but I never bothered because I just didn't have much of an interest in it. I did however, read up on the wiki article and watch a couple of clips on YouTube. The plot struck me as . . . incredibly familiar. Titans appear, driving humanity into near-extinction. Peace for a few years, then an attack on the sanctuary. The lead character holds a vengeance against all titans and will do whatever it takes to eradicate them all from the world with titan-shifting abilities.

Already, this reminds me of Trinity Blood. Let's just see how similar they are.

Human-eating Titans? In Trinity Blood, there's two groups: Terrans (humans) and Methuselah (vampires). Methuselah are humans that were exposed to the bacillus virus. It made them incredibly superior to humans in every way and gave them incredible longevity. But the virus caused them to derive their sustenance on human blood.

Humanity near extinction because of Titans? The Terrans and the Methuselah got into a war 900 years ago that caused Armageddon. Humanity was nearly wiped out in the process, but survived and has since been trying to rebuild.

Titan shifters? In Trinity Blood, we have Crusniks. They're vampires feed on vampires. Their standby form is human in appearance. Attack on Titan to my knowledge has 5 known Titan Shifters. There's 4 known Crusniks in Trinity Blood, 3 of them were test-tube babies while the 4th was infused with nanomachines to save his life.

Protagonist who's a titan shifter and a member of the military (more specifically, the Scout Regiment)? Abel Nightroad is a Crusnik and works for the Vatican's AX unit (a unit that deals with situations involving vampires). He often gets sent out on missions to different areas, like Albion and the New Human Empire, to name a couple.

Mystery group that's working with the Titans to eradicate humanity? In Trinity Blood, it's the Rosenkreuz Orden. They try to spark another war between the Vatican and the Empire for reasons currently unknown. Each member of the Orden has their own goals to achieve, which results in power struggles. Not that different from Bertholt, Reiner, and Annie bickering among themselves if you ask me.

There's also some other elements that really just make me wonder "did you guys even bother to try?" For instance, the military in AoT reminds me so much of the military in Fullmetal Alchemist. I'm pretty sure the comparisons are obvious, but here's one hint: Scout Regiment, Levi, Pyxis, and Erwin = Fort Briggs troops, Mustang, Grumman, and Olivier. Eren to me seems like a shoddy rip-off of Alucard from Hellsing. You know, the whole "kill what you hate by becoming what you hate" motif? Eren working for the military while being a Titan Shifter while having the primal urge to eradicate all titans? Doesn't that even remotely mirror Alucard working for the Hellsing Organisation along with his apparent sadism when he fights supernatural creatures?

***

Now, let's get on with one of the major things that I dislike about Attack on Titan: EREN. Eren has to be one of the worst protagonists I've ever seen in ANY anime. He's a loud, psychopathic punk who's got indomitable spirit, but can't do shit right. His first mission results in him getting thrown square across the town and into a roof with his leg lost. He gets eaten and can't kill a single titan without his powers. Come on, most of the people in his class (and in the scout regiment) have killed AT LEAST 1 or 2 titans with omni-directional gear. His only notable accomplishments are saving Mikasa from the slavers and lifting a giant rock to seal the part of the wall that Colossus Titan broke down. I can't even empathise with him and my mom's dead as well!

Mikasa would've made a much better protagonist. She's far more competent than Eren, and she really had a moment to shine when Eren "died" the first time during the attack on Trost. Not only that, but her past would've made her more interesting as a protagonist because she knows the evils that humans are capable of firsthand. She could have moments where she questions why she fights to save humanity from the Titans or moments where despite her prowess, she can't always save everyone. Those are the kind of plots that made shows like Batman Beyond, Justice League/Unlimited, and even Hey Arnold! so great in the first place and kept characters like Superman and Captain Marvel/Shazam from becoming boring and generic superheroes with a broken power set. But instead, they had to give the spotlight back to Mr. Incompetent and his titan-shifting abilities and make Mikasa his overbearing protector with no personality of her own.

Another thing that I don't like about AoT is the constant mood shift. In many episodes, the tone shifts from jovial, to dark and moody, to triumphant, to hopeless so many times that I can't even stand it. I get it, you're in the middle of a crisis and humanity is on the brink of extinction. That'll cause moments of triumph and moments of hopelessness quite often. But it happens so fucking often! It doesn't do a good job of actually portraying how the overall mood of the show should be. The story of Attack on Titan is incredibly grim, there shouldn't be so many mood swings. The overall mood of the show should reflect how dire the situation actually is, and stay constant.

There's also a lot of dialogue in places that it shouldn't be appropriate. For example, when Annie was chasing after Squad Levi in the forest and Eren had a choice to make: turn into a titan and battle her, or go on with the squad. There was a moment where time "froze" and then Eren, Levi, and everyone else were having a back and forth about trust in your comrades . . . okay, if the situation really is that severe, you'll have to make a choice right then and there. You're being chased by a sentient titan. Now is not the time to have a conversation. They should've left it up to Eren's impulse and not make the choice so dramatic. There wouldn't be this much drama happening in the middle of the battlefield in an actual war. I get that in many animes (InuYasha and Naruto to name a few), there are moments like that but the situation with AoT is different because humanity is in critical danger and their lives are constantly threatened by titans. That kind of scenario would make it grossly inappropriate to have that sort of dialogue in moments where the apparent last hope of humanity is out on the battlefield being chased by a Titan Shifter.

The enigma surrounding the AoT world also has moments that make you question what the fuck is going on. For example, 100 years ago when titans came about, they said that humanity was nearly eradicated. The surviving humans constructed three walls, and built the supposedly last stronghold. But that raises the question: how the fuck did the surviving humans manage to construct THREE 50-metre tall walls to keep the titans out in the middle of the carnage? Wouldn't titans have posed a major threat? How can you keep the titans at bay while using a shitload of manpower to build a construct to keep the titans out? I also find it incredibly hard to believe that the people living within the walls are literally all that's left of humanity. What happened to geographic differences? Couldn't mountain tribes have survived or something? What about tribes living in desolate islands? Wouldn't ethnic tensions inhibit such an endeavour to build a wall in the first place? How is it that the walls are the last place where any humans live? You get where I'm going with this.

This isn't really a major complaint, but it just popped up in my mind: in every episode, Eren recounts what happened over the course of the arc. The Attack on Trost arc was 9 episodes long, and I had to listen to 2 minutes of Eren recounting all the events that happened prior. It's not THAT bad, but it gets annoying, and I just skip 3-4 minutes ahead to where the episode actually begins.

***

Overall, I just don't believe Attack on Titan is as good as everyone makes it out to be. On the surface, it might look all cool and interesting . . . and it does have that kind of appearance to someone who hasn't watched it before. But it's really not. What this anime does, countless others do, with more success than Attack on Titan. A lot of animes tend to rip off others in various ways, but they manage to bring something new to the table. Attack on Titan does not. If you really want a good series to watch that does what AoT does, only better then here's a list:

- Trinity Blood

- Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate

- Fullmetal Alchemist

- Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

- InuYasha and InuYasha: The Final Act

- Fist of the North Star
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(1) If you're going to respond to this post, then please at least address all the points I make, rather than picking and choosing which parts you'll respond to. Point out any fallacies in any arguments I make. PROVE to me that you're right and I'm wrong in the most thorough of all manners.

(2) Already, this reminds me of Trinity Blood. Let's just see how similar they are.

(3) Now, let's get on with one of the major things that I dislike about Attack on Titan: EREN. Eren has to be one of the worst protagonists I've ever seen in ANY anime. He's a loud, psychopathic punk who's got indomitable spirit, but can't do shit right. His first mission results in him getting thrown square across the town and into a roof with his leg lost. He gets eaten and can't kill a single titan without his powers. Come on, most of the people in his class (and in the scout regiment) have killed AT LEAST 1 or 2 titans with omni-directional gear. His only notable accomplishments are saving Mikasa from the slavers and lifting a giant rock to seal the part of the wall that Colossus Titan broke down. I can't even empathise with him and my mom's dead as well!



1) Your post is too long. I am not going to respond to everything here. It's not my intent to prove you wrong, just to give you a little bit of insight. AoT does have problems.

2) Trinity Blood is a lot more complicated than Attack on Titan. You are over-analyzing this show. Step back for a moment and look at the whole picture, what do you see? AoT is fundamentally a zombie movie. It just adds in the element of giants to add a little more thrill to the genre. This is fundamentally the same type of show as "The Walking Dead." Everyone also crowds around that. People like simpler stories. Trinity Blood combines space travel, viruses, vampires, reverse-vampires, the church, a whole bunch of original terminology. Its world is way too complicated for the layman to truly enjoy. I am not saying it is bad, I liked Trinity Blood, what I am saying is, the more complicated an author makes his work, the more he risks alienating his fan base. I remember something joking about that in another anime, someone wrote out like 700 pages of material explaining every aspect of this world they created, but someone else replied "Okay, but how are you going to work this into an interesting story?"

3) This actually has been explained, by the author himself as to why Eren is that way. Eren is a projection of the author's dreams and insecurities. Basically as a child the author used to be scrawny and useless, what he always wanted was some special power that could give him an advantage over other children. So essentially, Eren being useless without his powers is the point of the character.



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Can't wait for the dub!
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phs_togusa wrote:

If you're going to respond to this post, then please at least address all the points I make, rather than picking and choosing which parts you'll respond to. Point out any fallacies in any arguments I make. PROVE to me that you're right and I'm wrong in the most thorough of all manners.

I've found myself pretty disappointed with Attack on Titan. It's not an anime series that deserves all the attention it gets.

Crowd-pleasers will always get more attention than, for lack of a better term, intellectual masterpieces. They just have broader, simpler appeal, and the hype gets compounded by the additional number of people who are in on it.


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Before I begin, let me explain what I like about the show:

- The action sequences are top-notch. I don't think there's a lot more I can say other than that. Anyone who's watched a few clips of the show can agree with me on this one.

- The animation is superb. I especially like the crazy ways some of the titans move around, like in Expedition 57, where Sasha comes across that titan that breaks the formation by crawling about on all fours with a scowl on its face.

- The art style is amazing. All the character designs are pretty good. The designs of the titan shifters are great as well. However, I wish there was more diversity among the titans, instead of just having naked bodies with differing hairstyles, proportioning, sizes and expressions. Maybe have a few titans that are closer to the Titans of ancient Greek lore?

That'd be an aesthetic break; the giants are playing the role of big zombies, not cool mythical creatures.


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- The soundtrack is decent. I'm not too fond of J-Pop anymore, but it suffices. The music played during the action scenes is quite fitting.

- The enigma surrounding the world of Attack on Titan is its greatest strength AND its greatest weakness. In some moments, the suspense of what happens next will keep you on edge, because you don't really know a lot. Compare that to an anime like Code Geass, where the entire history was given out in the first five minutes of the pilot episode.

Now, let's get on with why this show doesn't deserve the hype:

Around December, a lot of my friends kept telling me to watch it, but I never bothered because I just didn't have much of an interest in it. I did however, read up on the wiki article and watch a couple of clips on YouTube. The plot struck me as . . . incredibly familiar. Titans appear, driving humanity into near-extinction. Peace for a few years, then an attack on the sanctuary. The lead character holds a vengeance against all titans and will do whatever it takes to eradicate them all from the world with titan-shifting abilities.

Already, this reminds me of Trinity Blood. Let's just see how similar they are.

Human-eating Titans? In Trinity Blood, there's two groups: Terrans (humans) and Methuselah (vampires). Methuselah are humans that were exposed to the bacillus virus. It made them incredibly superior to humans in every way and gave them incredible longevity. But the virus caused them to derive their sustenance on human blood.

Humanity near extinction because of Titans? The Terrans and the Methuselah got into a war 900 years ago that caused Armageddon. Humanity was nearly wiped out in the process, but survived and has since been trying to rebuild.

Titan shifters? In Trinity Blood, we have Crusniks. They're vampires feed on vampires. Their standby form is human in appearance. Attack on Titan to my knowledge has 5 known Titan Shifters. There's 4 known Crusniks in Trinity Blood, 3 of them were test-tube babies while the 4th was infused with nanomachines to save his life.

Protagonist who's a titan shifter and a member of the military (more specifically, the Scout Regiment)? Abel Nightroad is a Crusnik and works for the Vatican's AX unit (a unit that deals with situations involving vampires). He often gets sent out on missions to different areas, like Albion and the New Human Empire, to name a couple.

Mystery group that's working with the Titans to eradicate humanity? In Trinity Blood, it's the Rosenkreuz Orden. They try to spark another war between the Vatican and the Empire for reasons currently unknown. Each member of the Orden has their own goals to achieve, which results in power struggles. Not that different from Bertholt, Reiner, and Annie bickering among themselves if you ask me.

I'm super hazy on Trinity Blood, but aren't the themes significantly different? I remember the running theme being the pursuit of lasting peace between the Terrans and Methuselah, which was being sabotaged by Cain.


phs_togusa wrote:

There's also some other elements that really just make me wonder "did you guys even bother to try?" For instance, the military in AoT reminds me so much of the military in Fullmetal Alchemist. I'm pretty sure the comparisons are obvious, but here's one hint: Scout Regiment, Levi, Pyxis, and Erwin = Fort Briggs troops, Mustang, Grumman, and Olivier. Eren to me seems like a shoddy rip-off of Alucard from Hellsing. You know, the whole "kill what you hate by becoming what you hate" motif? Eren working for the military while being a Titan Shifter while having the primal urge to eradicate all titans? Doesn't that even remotely mirror Alucard working for the Hellsing Organisation along with his apparent sadism when he fights supernatural creatures?

This feels like a stretch. Levi's a street thug who hero-worships Erwin, Mustang is a disaffected career soldier who tried to pull off a coup d'etat. Pyxis is a patient, presumably brilliant military tactician who finds much of his time being "wasted" on members of the aristocracy, while Grumman was a duplicitous old geezer who was also manipulating things behind the scenes to allow for his taking over the government. And I don't think Erwin and Olivier could possibly be more different.

I also don't see Eren in Alucard. Eren found himself becoming what he hated most in the world, and decided to use his new power to his advantage in his desire for vengeance. How does that even begin to parallel Alucard, who became a vampire in a mad lust for power in order to strike back at being down-trodden by humanity? Alucard doesn't hate immortals, as Arthur put it: immortals seek battle because they seek death. Alucard revels in destruction, it has nothing to do with any kind of vendetta.

I see more of Shinji's character arc in Eren, to be honest.


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Now, let's get on with one of the major things that I dislike about Attack on Titan: EREN. Eren has to be one of the worst protagonists I've ever seen in ANY anime. He's a loud, psychopathic punk who's got indomitable spirit, but can't do shit right. His first mission results in him getting thrown square across the town and into a roof with his leg lost. He gets eaten and can't kill a single titan without his powers. Come on, most of the people in his class (and in the scout regiment) have killed AT LEAST 1 or 2 titans with omni-directional gear. His only notable accomplishments are saving Mikasa from the slavers and lifting a giant rock to seal the part of the wall that Colossus Titan broke down. I can't even empathise with him and my mom's dead as well!

This is what brings me back to the Shinji parallel, how Eren feels largely ineffectual and he hates himself for it. Especially going into where the manga is now, which I won't, but it is a central theme I think to the whole story thus far.

Eren has yet to master himself, and until he does he's going to be a compromised force.


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Mikasa would've made a much better protagonist. She's far more competent than Eren, and she really had a moment to shine when Eren "died" the first time during the attack on Trost. Not only that, but her past would've made her more interesting as a protagonist because she knows the evils that humans are capable of firsthand. She could have moments where she questions why she fights to save humanity from the Titans or moments where despite her prowess, she can't always save everyone. Those are the kind of plots that made shows like Batman Beyond, Justice League/Unlimited, and even Hey Arnold! so great in the first place and kept characters like Superman and Captain Marvel/Shazam from becoming boring and generic superheroes with a broken power set. But instead, they had to give the spotlight back to Mr. Incompetent and his titan-shifting abilities and make Mikasa his overbearing protector with no personality of her own.

I'll agree that all three central characters are rather flat.


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Another thing that I don't like about AoT is the constant mood shift. In many episodes, the tone shifts from jovial, to dark and moody, to triumphant, to hopeless so many times that I can't even stand it. I get it, you're in the middle of a crisis and humanity is on the brink of extinction. That'll cause moments of triumph and moments of hopelessness quite often. But it happens so fucking often! It doesn't do a good job of actually portraying how the overall mood of the show should be. The story of Attack on Titan is incredibly grim, there shouldn't be so many mood swings. The overall mood of the show should reflect how dire the situation actually is, and stay constant.

There's also a lot of dialogue in places that it shouldn't be appropriate. For example, when Annie was chasing after Squad Levi in the forest and Eren had a choice to make: turn into a titan and battle her, or go on with the squad. There was a moment where time "froze" and then Eren, Levi, and everyone else were having a back and forth about trust in your comrades . . . okay, if the situation really is that severe, you'll have to make a choice right then and there. You're being chased by a sentient titan. Now is not the time to have a conversation. They should've left it up to Eren's impulse and not make the choice so dramatic.

But again, you're ignoring the indecision. You're jumping to "Oh; well, it's obvious that they should do this; why don't they do it." That conversation was dramatically important to Eren's character arc, you can't just sweep it aside.


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There wouldn't be this much drama happening in the middle of the battlefield in an actual war.

I'd beg to differ; stop thinking of Eren as a veteran soldier in this situation, since he's not. Think of him as being the young blood he is being escorted by the veterans he was surrounded by, which was actually what was happening. While the conversation might've been verbose, it belied the fundamental situation where Eren had to choose between trusting his gut or trusting the experience of others. And then he had to live with that choice, as per his later discussion with Levi.


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I get that in many animes (InuYasha and Naruto to name a few), there are moments like that but the situation with AoT is different because humanity is in critical danger and their lives are constantly threatened by titans. That kind of scenario would make it grossly inappropriate to have that sort of dialogue in moments where the apparent last hope of humanity is out on the battlefield being chased by a Titan Shifter.

The enigma surrounding the AoT world also has moments that make you question what the fuck is going on. For example, 100 years ago when titans came about, they said that humanity was nearly eradicated. The surviving humans constructed three walls, and built the supposedly last stronghold. But that raises the question: how the fuck did the surviving humans manage to construct THREE 50-metre tall walls to keep the titans out in the middle of the carnage? Wouldn't titans have posed a major threat? How can you keep the titans at bay while using a shitload of manpower to build a construct to keep the titans out? I also find it incredibly hard to believe that the people living within the walls are literally all that's left of humanity. What happened to geographic differences? Couldn't mountain tribes have survived or something? What about tribes living in desolate islands? Wouldn't ethnic tensions inhibit such an endeavour to build a wall in the first place? How is it that the walls are the last place where any humans live? You get where I'm going with this.

The answer to this is hinted at in the anime and answered in the manga, although it just leads to more questions.

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This isn't really a major complaint, but it just popped up in my mind: in every episode, Eren recounts what happened over the course of the arc. The Attack on Trost arc was 9 episodes long, and I had to listen to 2 minutes of Eren recounting all the events that happened prior. It's not THAT bad, but it gets annoying, and I just skip 3-4 minutes ahead to where the episode actually begins.

Yeah, the pacing was pretty crappy. To do it properly they should've held off the anime until 2015 (no facetiousness).


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Overall, I just don't believe Attack on Titan is as good as everyone makes it out to be. On the surface, it might look all cool and interesting . . . and it does have that kind of appearance to someone who hasn't watched it before. But it's really not. What this anime does, countless others do, with more success than Attack on Titan. A lot of animes tend to rip off others in various ways, but they manage to bring something new to the table. Attack on Titan does not. If you really want a good series to watch that does what AoT does, only better then here's a list:

- Trinity Blood

- Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate

- Fullmetal Alchemist

- Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

- InuYasha and InuYasha: The Final Act

- Fist of the North Star

Just to circle all the way back to the top, Attack on Titan is a crowd-pleaser, and it'll generate attention as such. It has very wide appeal, a simple, easy-to-follow storyline, and an incredible extended cast of side-characters.

Yes, it could be better; yes, Eren, Mikasa, and Armin are often annoying, etc.; I won't say it's a perfect story at all, but it's a fairly good one, and it's the ideal kind of story to generate large amounts of hype by drawing in a diverse viewerbase.

In the end it's a good adventure anime with some neat underlying mysteries and a cool world. So despite any faults I enjoyed watching it and will look forward to the eventual second season after we know how it'll all come to an end.

I won't fault you for disliking it though.
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Here we go, can't wait!!

FUNimation announced that Attack on Titan, Part 1 (L.E) is scheduled to street on June 3, 2014. Attack on Titan, Part 1 will be available as a DVD/Blu-ray combo. Both the limited edition and standard edition releases will include episodes 1-13. Pre-order Attack on Titan, Part 1 (L.E) today!

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Just pointing this out, but the story borrows more from Norse Mythology than Greek. It's more Germanic influenced in nature than anything else, really. An obvious example of this is Ymir. Here's a thread that goes into more depth about this (the whole SnK forum is an interesting read, actually).

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/2991845-Greek-and-Norse-Mythology-hints-at-SnK-s-plot

Anyway, and not really important, but I like Attack on Titan because of its influences, not necessarily the show / manga / crayon drawing itself, does that seem odd? All the references and whatnot even encouraged me to write my own fan-fiction for it.
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Well don't know what's happening in this thread, been gone for a long time.

But since it's popped up on first page.

Quick question to manga/anime peoples.

I watched this up to episode 10 - before I couldn't wait anymore. (Waiting on an anime weekly drives me crazy slowly.) So I kind of forgot about it, read the manga up to the point its released, and then forgot about it too.

Now since the season is done, I'll likely watch all of this awesome anime in one go.

Just curious - did they do alright in following the manga till the end of the season?
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If you wanted complicated, go write bullshit about Death Note, that's a cool show.

Eren's just as helpless as every single person who isn't extremely skilled at taking titans out. Which essentially leaves about 2-5 people who can really get stuff done. His team's failure just provides a pull back to reality and to the fact that things go horribly wrong sometimes, and makes the watchers feel really hopeless.

If you knew anything about what you were talking about when you were talking about the wall, you wouldn't have said shit. Read the manga. but please refrain from writing another fucking essay about it once you're done.

Mikasa wouldn't make a better protagonist, because she's kinda boring lol Eren has much more awesome emotion and extreme determination to wipe out the entire titan race. who better, no, who other than him to be the one becoming the titan and taking on all of humankind's raw hatred for the titans?

Also, I think you're just jealous it got hype in the first place hater. ya big fat H8TOR

I would write so many other things, calling out your stupid points you try so hard to make smart, but I really think you should just quit overthinking, drop the smart guy act, and keep your opinion to yourself if it's gonna be so damn long.
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Mikasa wouldn't make a better protagonist, because she's kinda boring


*looks at her sig*

:(

*loves Mikasa*

*has no clue what this fight is about*

But, I like Eren too, I think Mikasa is stronger as a secondary support character - but an important one.

Kind of reminds me of Magi and how Morg is an awesome third protagonist.
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Sacae89 wrote:

Well don't know what's happening in this thread, been gone for a long time.

But since it's popped up on first page.

Quick question to manga/anime peoples.

I watched this up to episode 10 - before I couldn't wait anymore. (Waiting on an anime weekly drives me crazy slowly.) So I kind of forgot about it, read the manga up to the point its released, and then forgot about it too.

Now since the season is done, I'll likely watch all of this awesome anime in one go.

Just curious - did they do alright in following the manga till the end of the season?


Yeah, it did really great in that perspective, but there is a lot of things they added. Like, more action and a couple other things, I think. but in my opinion, any thing that is different just made it that much more freaking awesome.

oh, and I love mikasa, too haha not meaning to rag on her
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Sacae89 wrote:
(Waiting on an anime weekly drives me crazy slowly.)

I'm the same way with Naruto, except I actually am slowly going crazy
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