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Are there any redeeming qualities in humanity?
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Posted 4/11/13
There are qualities of kindness that humans can do to other humans in order to redeem themselves.

However, redeeming humanity itself? Nah.
Posted 4/11/13
You accuse man as a whole of being irredeemable, when it is the place of many individuals to attain excellence.

For shame.
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Posted 4/13/13

Elektrawnik wrote:

You accuse man as a whole of being irredeemable, when it is the place of many individuals to attain excellence.

For shame.


They're assuming humanity is in need of redemption....
Posted 4/13/13

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Elektrawnik wrote:

You accuse man as a whole of being irredeemable, when it is the place of many individuals to attain excellence.

For shame.


They're assuming humanity is in need of redemption.... :P


As a whole, no. Redemption is possible for some, but there are those who want their lives to be destroyed gradually over many years. They get what they want, and no one can reach them.
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Posted 4/14/13 , edited 4/14/13

Elektrawnik wrote:


spacebat wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:

You accuse man as a whole of being irredeemable, when it is the place of many individuals to attain excellence.

For shame.


They're assuming humanity is in need of redemption.... :P


As a whole, no. Redemption is possible for some, but there are those who want their lives to be destroyed gradually over many years. They get what they want, and no one can reach them.


Again, you're assuming humanity or an individual is in need of redemption. Redemption is a loaded statement and it's probably the wrong question to ask. What we should be asking is if humanity can learn from its mistakes and change. Even if a person is redeemed it doesn't mean they've learned from their mistakes nor does it mean they will not make the same mistake in the future.
Posted 4/14/13

spacebat wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:


spacebat wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:

You accuse man as a whole of being irredeemable, when it is the place of many individuals to attain excellence.

For shame.


They're assuming humanity is in need of redemption.... :P


As a whole, no. Redemption is possible for some, but there are those who want their lives to be destroyed gradually over many years. They get what they want, and no one can reach them.


Again, you're assuming humanity or an individual is in need of redemption. Redemption is a loaded statement and it's probably the wrong question to ask. What we should be asking is if humanity can learn from its mistakes and change. Even if a person is redeemed it doesn't mean they've learned from their mistakes nor does it mean they will not make the same mistake in the future. :P


Redemption is a pretentious term used by hypocrites. Life is a giant orgy of violence and amorality, is it not? We learn, BUT, we often forget what we learned in certain situations. Hence, no one really learns, or is redeemed.
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Posted 4/14/13

Elektrawnik wrote:

Redemption is a pretentious term used by hypocrites. Life is a giant orgy of violence and amorality, is it not? We learn, BUT, we often forget what we learned in certain situations. Hence, no one really learns, or is redeemed.


That's a really pessimistic view of life. I'm going to disagree as I can't agree with the sentiment at all.

Call me a tragic optimist but I like to think we eventually learn from our mistakes move past our failings and continue to move forward as a species.
Posted 4/14/13

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Elektrawnik wrote:

Redemption is a pretentious term used by hypocrites. Life is a giant orgy of violence and amorality, is it not? We learn, BUT, we often forget what we learned in certain situations. Hence, no one really learns, or is redeemed.


That's a really pessimistic view of life. I'm going to disagree as I can't agree with the sentiment at all.

Call me a tragic optimist but I like to think we eventually learn from our mistakes move past our failings and continue to move forward as a species.


I don't care if anyone agrees. The terrorists will win and the world economy will collapse permanently.
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I am here :3
Posted 4/17/13
This is the question the insect struggled with the most even when no one paid any attention
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Posted 4/20/13
I don't like scorned or pitied. Yes humans are terrible things with no redeeming qualities (self included), yes there is a lot of stupid people out there. Yes we wage war, we hate the person next to us, but wouldn't we be better to try to love one another. I'm not saying we should like the evil acts,you can despise evil but should we hate those who commit it.

War against war, show detest against hateful acts, but defend against truth and the moral values that make us more than human. Love your enemy, but be as clever as a fox.

After all humanity is one of the largest things humans lack.
So out of the two of them, I say neither , I say love.

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Posted 4/21/13
We do lots of horrible things, but I don't think all of us are inherently evil. If we were, we would have died out a long time ago.
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Posted 4/24/13 , edited 4/24/13
Pitied or scorned by whom? By ourselves? By select individuals who are objectively on the moral high-ground of the species? Dolphins? If we're talking solely about the idea of redemption, then again, who are we seeking said redemption from? Standards are relative.

This question is relatively pointless without a context. It's like asking what the value of helium is. How much helium? Value to whom? For what usage? By itself or in its natural state mixed with other gasses in a cloud or in its other natural state in the hearts of stars?

Questions of value, meaning and morals are subjective and entirely relative.

Now, if you want my personal opinion, then I'd say that pitying or scorning them is as futile a gesture as pitying or scorning earthworms or ants. They're just existing and carrying out their genetic and cultural programming; so are we.
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Posted 4/26/13
Pitied or scorned by who???
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Posted 4/27/13
Oh God, more ecological pacifistic bullshit.
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