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Posted 4/21/13 , edited 4/21/13
ha ha ha

got to love the concept , the lobster mecha
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I was prepared to drop this halfway through the first episode. I was like "wtf..is..this.." :P

Pretty good anime though! I really don't usually like mecha, but I'm digging it.
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I'm convinced after the big discussion thread about the last episode on reddit that the majority of people watching Gargatina don't understand there are consequences to your actions and obliterating the pirates is not some black and white decision.

Pirates seem willing to take hostages and slaves so is it okay to annihilate them as well? All we know about the pirates at this point is they attack small convoys to steal what other fleets try to salvage. If they got their jollies off on attacking fleets directly why would the Empress make the decision to teach the fleet commander of Gargatina a lessen for being so bold to completely destroy her raiding party. Ledo upset the status quo and while people might not understand the idea of letting the pirates attack Gargantia's people indirectly, what resulted from a successful assault against pirates and not allowing for them to retreat was a direct attack against a ship full of civilians.
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Semper Fi...
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I am so glad that the reaction to Ledo killing all the pirates was shock and dismay, as it should have been.


AnimeKami wrote:

bad politics

one side does the killing the other side says it is ok to let them kill us so long as they survive

i mean blame the guy who saved the livelihood of an entire population from getting ransacked. totally what I'd do /sarcasm

I do hope no one starts the argument of " you should never kill no matter what circumstances are "

edit: the worse thing is not about asking for help and not being appreciative, but is asking for help and blaming the helper


The only one who asked for his help is Amy. The leaders of Gargantia were uninvolved. And Amy, after being shocked that this kid that she defended as being "pretty normal" is capable of unemotionally killing a couple dozen people, does apologize to him and thank him for helping her sister.

And yes, even though he hasn't lived a "kid" like life, he is still only 16. The fact that a 16 year old soldier has as much service time as he does suggests that he was born and raised to be a soldier, and his behavior suggests this as well.
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Semper Fi...


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just finished episode 3, really loving this show ^_^

Great atmosphere, animation, story and characters. I think Chamber would have to be my favorite at the moment. I usually hate mech stuff but this show seems to focus on the characters more, which i like!

Pretty sure the lobster lady's boobs could have put up a good fight against Chamber haha
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I am so glad that the reaction to Ledo killing all the pirates was shock and dismay, as it should have been.

The only one who asked for his help is Amy. The leaders of Gargantia were uninvolved. And Amy, after being shocked that this kid that she defended as being "pretty normal" is capable of unemotionally killing a couple dozen people, does apologize to him and thank him for helping her sister.

But I still think the blame lies entirely with the Gargantians: he explained he was a soldier from space; thus when they turned around and blamed him for creating the situation, I would say Ledo was well within his rights to say "you really should have been more specific about how you wanted that done." The flip side of this argument is that the Gargantian's have no idea what being a 'soldier' actually means in the context that Ledo has lived, because their lives are so genuinely peaceful (this seems belayed by be fact that they seem to have some sort of militia in the patrol boats - a fact that Ledo comments on).

On the other hand his non-angsty, non-defensive, yet utterly confident style is refreshing and opens up a lot of potential within the plot.

Other points: I'm sort of wondering where we an go from here? Seems like the big fights are done for now and it's going to be lots go 'getting to know you' type stuff (until the aliens and humans come crashing out of space obviously!), the content of this series thus far implies they'll pull it off: really hope they can, especially in maintaining Ledo's non-angst (please don't let us go down the path of a ton of navel-gazing and self-doubt).

Also, is anyone else loving how *bright* the animation is? In a completely different way to all the shoujo type stuff: it's like you can feel the sun beating down and reflecting off the ocean. When I watch Gargantia it's genuinely like getting a breath of fresh air: I feel like I've come back from an exotic holiday!
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Technically the blame lies with Amy as she asked for Ledo's help without getting permission from the fleet commanders.
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Zensunni wrote:

I am so glad that the reaction to Ledo killing all the pirates was shock and dismay, as it should have been.

The only one who asked for his help is Amy. The leaders of Gargantia were uninvolved. And Amy, after being shocked that this kid that she defended as being "pretty normal" is capable of unemotionally killing a couple dozen people, does apologize to him and thank him for helping her sister.

But I still think the blame lies entirely with the Gargantians: he explained he was a soldier from space; thus when they turned around and blamed him for creating the situation, I would say Ledo was well within his rights to say "you really should have been more specific about how you wanted that done." The flip side of this argument is that the Gargantian's have no idea what being a 'soldier' actually means in the context that Ledo has lived, because their lives are so genuinely peaceful (this seems belayed by be fact that they seem to have some sort of militia in the patrol boats - a fact that Ledo comments on).

On the other hand his non-angsty, non-defensive, yet utterly confident style is refreshing and opens up a lot of potential within the plot.

Other points: I'm sort of wondering where we an go from here? Seems like the big fights are done for now and it's going to be lots go 'getting to know you' type stuff (until the aliens and humans come crashing out of space obviously!), the content of this series thus far implies they'll pull it off: really hope they can, especially in maintaining Ledo's non-angst (please don't let us go down the path of a ton of navel-gazing and self-doubt).

Also, is anyone else loving how *bright* the animation is? In a completely different way to all the shoujo type stuff: it's like you can feel the sun beating down and reflecting off the ocean. When I watch Gargantia it's genuinely like getting a breath of fresh air: I feel like I've come back from an exotic holiday!


Agree with your response to this 100%. Racking my brain earlier contemplating how I wanted to respond to this and you said it like I wanted to. :)

Yes, the animation is awesome. Enjoyed the scene where the little bugs causing the electricity to ripple across the water and the view of the nights sky. It's incredibly well done.
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imiami wrote:

Also, is anyone else loving how *bright* the animation is? In a completely different way to all the shoujo type stuff: it's like you can feel the sun beating down and reflecting off the ocean. When I watch Gargantia it's genuinely like getting a breath of fresh air: I feel like I've come back from an exotic holiday!

Yes, I noticed the "brightness" of the animation right away from ep 1! I knew just from that alone I was prolly gonna end up really lovin' this show, and so far, I have! The ED song/scene too, I can't help but find quite beautiful and uplifting. I might need to pick up the OST for this, or at least the ED song. I really love it! Easily my favorite song of the new Spring shows! ^__^

Also, I don't think this anime will do a "guilty crown" or anything too bad, lol. Maybe it's just me, but the feeling I get from the whole atmosphere of the anime (esp. from the OP & ED theme - which I believe were done to fit the feeling/atmosphere of the show) would indicate that it won't ever become like a sad, dark or depressing show. I'm sure there will be elements of each of those though, but I don't think it will be so overwhelming to the point of dragging the series down.
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Yes, I noticed the "brightness" of the animation right away from ep 1! I knew just from that alone I was prolly gonna end up really lovin' this show, and so far, I have! The ED song/scene too, I can't help but find quite beautiful and uplifting. I might need to pick up the OST for this, or at least the ED song. I really love it! Easily my favorite song of the new Spring shows! ^__^

Also, I don't think this anime will do a "guilty crown" or anything too bad, lol. Maybe it's just me, but the feeling I get from the whole atmosphere of the anime (esp. from the OP & ED theme - which I believe were done to fit the feeling/atmosphere of the show) would indicate that it won't ever become like a sad, dark or depressing show. I'm sure there will be elements of each of those though, but I don't think it will be so overwhelming to the point of dragging the series down.


I don't think it will be like Guilty Crown mainly because of the writer behind the show. Gen Urobuchi had done some really fantastic work both in anime and visual novels. This is the guy that brought us the Fate/Stay Zero visual novels plus Requiem for a Phantom anime and the visual novel it is based on. From what I saw, he is very passionate about this show because he has a message of hope for teens and young adults. That was from Wikipedia, so go ahead and tear it down if you want. Ironically, the main writer for Guilty Crown is the writer for Valvrave.
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This is the guy that brought us Requiem for a Phantom anime and the visual novel it is based on. From what I saw, he is very passionate about this show because he has a message of hope for teens and young adults.

Requiem for the Phantom? Uh oh, lol! I liked the anime overall, but the ending...

Requiem for the Phantom ending spoiler:


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imiami wrote:


Zensunni wrote:

I am so glad that the reaction to Ledo killing all the pirates was shock and dismay, as it should have been.

The only one who asked for his help is Amy. The leaders of Gargantia were uninvolved. And Amy, after being shocked that this kid that she defended as being "pretty normal" is capable of unemotionally killing a couple dozen people, does apologize to him and thank him for helping her sister.

But I still think the blame lies entirely with the Gargantians: he explained he was a soldier from space; thus when they turned around and blamed him for creating the situation, I would say Ledo was well within his rights to say "you really should have been more specific about how you wanted that done." The flip side of this argument is that the Gargantian's have no idea what being a 'soldier' actually means in the context that Ledo has lived, because their lives are so genuinely peaceful (this seems belayed by be fact that they seem to have some sort of militia in the patrol boats - a fact that Ledo comments on).

On the other hand his non-angsty, non-defensive, yet utterly confident style is refreshing and opens up a lot of potential within the plot.

Other points: I'm sort of wondering where we an go from here? Seems like the big fights are done for now and it's going to be lots go 'getting to know you' type stuff (until the aliens and humans come crashing out of space obviously!), the content of this series thus far implies they'll pull it off: really hope they can, especially in maintaining Ledo's non-angst (please don't let us go down the path of a ton of navel-gazing and self-doubt).

Also, is anyone else loving how *bright* the animation is? In a completely different way to all the shoujo type stuff: it's like you can feel the sun beating down and reflecting off the ocean. When I watch Gargantia it's genuinely like getting a breath of fresh air: I feel like I've come back from an exotic holiday!





tommythecat wrote:

Technically the blame lies with Amy as she asked for Ledo's help without getting permission from the fleet commanders.


Yes, what Tommythecat said. Plus, as you point out yourself, even if the "Gargantians" as a whole had solicited Ledo's help, they would have had no idea what his being a soldier from space would mean in terms of his understanding of the basic concept that you don't swat a fly with a buick. In general, in their world, anyone that got killed in an attempted piracy operation, or an attempted rescue from pirates, would be a small percentage of the combatants. It is absolutely correct for them to be horrified at the concept of vaporizing 100% of the attackers in that situation.

As for Amy, she is a kid who was worried about her sister and asked for Ledo's help without the getting approval from, heck, without consulting the leaders of Gargantia. Her reaction was spot on as well. The fact that she came around as quickly as she did to be willing to talk to him again is a testament to her resiliency. Most 15 year old girls, when told by a boy that they just killed a couple dozen people would totally freak and not want to see the person again. They would be scared to death of the guy.

As for the brightness, yes! The animation and the art is absolutely wonderful!
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