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CR got Yahari Ore (Romantic Comedy SNAFU)...
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Photo Kano and My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU?

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Crunchyroll you spoil us too much! Today's announcements plus adding A NEW BOX INTO THE LINEUP PAGE!?
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Great Picks! I love My teen Romantic Comedy Snafu!
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Didn't expect these titles. SNAFU is quite promising but i have bad feeling about it. Hope there won't be any chuunibyo references. It was good at the begging but not after X times of main hero, who is threatened by his middle school notes.

And too bad crunchy rate fallen to 20% now.


HannoX wrote:

I'm not affiliated with CR, but I think I can guess what the problem is. South America is caught in a bind. Until there are enough premium members to provide CR with a reasonable expectation of covering the cost (and making at least a small profit) to license series to stream there, it's a risk for them to do so. But with so few legally streaming shows available there, most fans see no sense in becoming premium members when they can always watch fansubs for free.


You miss one point. It's not like CR needs some additional infrastructure to stream other then US. Cost of streaming for another Us user is almost the same as for anyone in the world. And even if whole streaming rights for South America bring only 200 $ or less it's still 200$ of extra profit. It don't generate any additional cost(except the licence of course) for enabling it there. If they spil 50/50 it's just crunchy earning 100$ more and licensor earning 100$ more of pure profit.

The real problem is that old-fashioned way of licencing by country is still alive. Too get south america licences CR must get several different licences for every single country. Often there is some crazy price involved.

The reason is simple because they threat streaming and internet like they threat standard distribution. And it's not. Preparing and subbing anime episode for streaming is the same regardless if it's only for one country or for whole world. Cost of transport is the same regardless of person location. Because of that theoretically even if there is only one member it's still worth to licence it.

It's stupid because if they don't sell licence they earn 0.
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Both of these series are delaycasts, which is annoying but I'll put up with it because I try to watch as many anime on Crunchyroll as possible to make the most of my subscription.
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mapokl wrote: The reason is simple because they threat streaming and internet like they threat standard distribution. And it's not. Preparing and subbing anime episode for streaming is the same regardless if it's only for one country or for whole world. Cost of transport is the same regardless of person location. Because of that theoretically even if there is only one member it's still worth to licence it.

But its only worth it for a few members if it can be included on the same contract. Crunchyroll was above 10,000 members when they hit break-even, and a former licensing person working for them has noted that contracting costs are one of their highest fixed costs.

While most of their other fixed costs are covered by the North American streaming income, it probably does take thousands to cover the contracting costs to take out an additional contract.

The next step up for South America is when Crunchyroll either convinces Sentai to include South America in their standard streaming territory request when they bid for a license, so Crunchyroll can include South American when they sublicense, or else when Showgate restructures their streaming regions to that South America can be included with North America.


frosephtheshadowman wrote:

Is this the end of UK announcments (the last 2 weren't made available over here. I still have 3 series I want streamed, although I doubt we'll see Railgun S on CR...

I wouldn't give up on a UK region for the last box. It may be the new box is a license that was hung up in negotiations, in which case its region won't fall into any specific pattern, because we don't know when it would have been announced if it was signed on time.

And I think these two today might be licensed by Kaze for France and the UK. If they show up on Anime-on-Demand, we'll know what was going on (that is assuming that its pointless to hope for Anime-on-Demand to SAY what is going on), If that's what happened, Kaze only added two last season. If these are the two for this season, that would make it even more likely that the UK will be in the region for the next (last?) box.


Jaxx_Raxor wrote: Both of these series are delaycasts, which is annoying but I'll put up with it because I try to watch as many anime on Crunchyroll as possible to make the most of my subscription.

That's part of why I suspect these could be Kaze streams in France/UK, since they might not want someone else streaming them ahead of their schedule.


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And, AGAIN, Latin America suffers the tyranny of the publishers.

Well, at least we have some (IMO) worthy simulcasts like Aku no Hana.
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I totally agree. But contracting cost is sth that licensor purely decides. And that's why i said that licencing per every single country is old-fashioned in internet case. In many cases there are simply not large market for that. But if you make worldwide contract or region contract(like for whole Europe etc.) you can earn profit from these small markets that are unavailable otherwise. And unlike traditional distribution there are no other cost involved. There is simply stubbornness. It's simple: "We did it like that for decades so there is no reason to change it" They don't give a f... that they actually lose money to pirates...


frosephtheshadowman wrote:

Is this the end of UK announcments (the last 2 weren't made available over here. I still have 3 series I want streamed, although I doubt we'll see Railgun S on CR...

Unfortunally it's usually the case that their worldwide and more global licences are announced first, and the one announced last are usually the US(&Canada) only. Well there is still Hope for you, but for other countries the chance are really slim.

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And, AGAIN, Latin America suffers the tyranny of the publishers.

Well, at least we have some (IMO) worthy simulcasts like Aku no Hana.


To be fair, TBS has never done an anime simulcast to Crunchyroll before today . (The Idolm@ster was Aniplex, and NakaImo was Media Factory for those who will mention those). Perhaps if TBS likes the streaming numbers, they can be persuaded to expand their licenses to South America in the future.

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but it's not a simulcast. episode 1 airs 1 week late. the first episode aired last week.
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pistolsaf wrote:


Imationer wrote:

And, AGAIN, Latin America suffers the tyranny of the publishers.

Well, at least we have some (IMO) worthy simulcasts like Aku no Hana.


To be fair, TBS has never done an anime simulcast to Crunchyroll before today . (The Idolm@ster was Aniplex, and NakaImo was Media Factory for those who will mention those). Perhaps if TBS likes the streaming numbers, they can be persuaded to expand their licenses to South America in the future.



I sincerely hope TBS listens to you and everyone else that has the same thought right now.
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Man, gimme a break. Can we even expect for any show to be licensed for UK/Latin America at this point?
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Japanese do not want to see their series, then do not complain because there piracy in South America
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I really hope the next annoucement will be available for Latin America or on the contrary we'll have less than 50% of new shows this season.
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