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OMG CR PICKED UP PHOTO KANO AND My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU??????????? YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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No, you miss the point. I'm sure an anime license for another continent isn't thrown in for free. CrunchyRoll has to pay for it and if there aren't enough premium members in Latin America to cover that cost it'd be very risky for CR to buy it. And rampent piracy in Latin America only adds to the risk that CR would eventually attract enough premium members to ensure their costs and an adequate profit. Maybe at some point CR will have enough North American premium members to cover the cost of a Latin American license and decide to take that risk.
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Great! Now all I need is CR to announce that its streaming Henneko and my shows will be covered.
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Wow, this is rather surprising.
Either TBS caved to have CR simulcast or Sentai decided that with the recent stability issues on TAN to have these 2 on CR rather than TAN.

In either case, I'm rather impressed they turned up on CR.
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I was SOOOO hoping CR would grab these two. This is awesome
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HannoX wrote:

No, you miss the point. I'm sure an anime license for another continent isn't thrown in for free.


You say it like licence price is sth set in stone and it isn't. My point is that even if Japanese licensor sell licence for 1$, it's 1$ more. So even if whole south america market can earn you like 2000$ that's 2000$ more then 0. Because In case they don't sell it they get nothing. By not selling it you only encourage pirating, while by selling it you can only earn more and in long run increase potential market there. That's why i said there are stupid. Japanese licensors don't really care about outside of Japan or potential profit there, not mentioning expansion. The will to licence there is only on Crunchy side here and if opposite side don't really care, so the current situation happens.

You say that the problem is with lack of members in South America, but how do you expect to increase it if you refuse to licence because of "lack of members"?
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mapokl wrote: I totally agree. But contracting cost is sth that licensor purely decides.

I'm not talking about the Minimum Guarantee, I am talking about the overheads of negotiating the contract, doing the due diligence, having the lawyers look over it and vet it for conflicts with other licensing agreements, stuff like that. The total revenues for the streaming to the people covered by a single contract must be expected to cover the contracting cost of Crunchyroll AND the contracting cost of the licensor, otherwise there's no point in starting the negotiation.

The licensor doesn't "decide" the contracting cost ~ though there are ways to reduce contracting costs, such as doing a package deal, so the contracting cost is spread over multiple titles.


HannoX wrote: No, you miss the point. I'm sure an anime license for another continent isn't thrown in for free.

How much extra it takes to make it worthwhile depend on whether it can be included in a single contract, and how many other potential rights agreements it might conflict with.

For instance, suppose that you have an option deal with Animax Asia. Suppose that option deal involves acquiring exclusive digital distribution and streaming rights in the target territory. one broadcast license pays more than twenty streaming licenses, so you would simply not offer streaming rights in the Animax Asia territories until and unless the option had expired on the series.

On the other hand, if you know that you have no prospective broadcast or home video distributors in Europe that distribute in Scandinavia, its easy to carve Scandinavia out of home video contracts in Europe and include them in your "English Languages Country" licensing block. With the combination of early and deep penetration of broadband internet in Scandinavia, relatively high personal incomes and a high concentration of English as a Second Language readers, it only took a relatively few Scandinavian licenses on top of the handful of Worldwide and Europe wide licenses to boost membership in the region, and then Crunchyroll could offer a larger Minimum Guarantee top-up to add Scandinavian rights ... and now its been included on enough licenses that when Crunchyroll gets a new licenses from an existing partner, just re-using the previous contract terms means that Scandinavia gets included in a lot of them.

When streaming is paying something closer to the amount of a broadcast or home video distribution license (and I do think that is when, not if), then the licensing terms put in place are likely to carve out simulcast streaming rights, with "all-rights" deals involving shared streaming rather than exclusive streaming, in order to avoid the interference with maximizing the income from the simulcasting stream.

But we aren't there yet.
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WHEN THE FUCK IS HIGURASHI NO KORO NI KAKU COMING, IM FUCKING GONNA CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION

SRY FOR EXALTATION
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Awesome additions, two off my wishlist. Only four left, though I guess technically only 2 because Attack on Titan is impossible to get the rights to stream, while Hataruku Maou-sama is being streamed by funimation

Red Data Girl
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Make it happen CR!
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After watching some first episodes, alot of these shows are actually pretty good. I don't particularly like mecha anime but even Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet has a nice aspect to it that will be interesting to watch how it pans out.

Alright CR, I give, this looks like it will be a good season

Thanks for all your hard work.
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personally don't think Attack on Titan is that great, though. the protag is stupid and annoying, also too similar to the protag of Magi, and one of these per two seasons is kind of enough...eyes on lucky star spin off and Hentai Ouji...railgun would also be a nice pick
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ice0cream wrote:

personally don't think Attack on Titan is that great, though. the protag is stupid and annoying, also too similar to the protag of Magi, and one of these per two seasons is kind of enough...eyes on lucky star spin off and Hentai Ouji...railgun would also be a nice pick


I would love to see them get the 'Lucky Star' Spinoff myself! I was a huge fan of the first season and was always hoping for more.

Also I don't see them getting 'A Certain Scientific Railgun'. Most likely Funimation already has the rights to that and are just waiting to announce it. Though I could be wrong.
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matiasnider wrote:

WHEN THE FUCK IS HIGURASHI NO KORO NI KAKU COMING, IM FUCKING GONNA CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION

You might as well cancel, because all indications are that it is a theatrical movie, not a series. Good luck even finding fansubs of it until it comes out on BD/DVD.




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Red Data Girl
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Make it happen CR!

RDG was announced earlier today as a Funimation simulcast:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-09/funimation-to-stream-red-data-girl-tv-anime

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DragoonKain3 wrote:

Awesome additions, two off my wishlist. Only four left, though I guess technically only 2 because Attack on Titan is impossible to get the rights to stream, while Hataruku Maou-sama is being streamed by funimation

Red Data Girl
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But expect Funimation to announce Attack on Titan and Red Data Girl.

So you are basically hoping for the last box to be filled with HENNEKO.
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Aw, I wanted crunchyroll to get Red Data Girl It takes forever for the subs to come out for it..
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