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First of all thank you Bjaker for keeping us informed about what is happening regarding to Latin America here in crunchy =D.

And about the series already available in Latin America with english subs that I would like to watch translated into spanish are the next ones:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/level-e
http://www.crunchyroll.com/blassreiter
http://www.crunchyroll.com/lucky-star
http://www.crunchyroll.com/tegami-bachi-letter-bee
http://www.crunchyroll.com/puella-magi-madoka-magica
http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-mystic-archives-of-dantalian
http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-aegis-of-uruk-
http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-sword-of-uruk-

And I better stop here or will be a very long list . Thanks a lot in advance!
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Posted 4/13/13 , edited 4/13/13
This is a summary of last season for Latin America:

Spring 2012
continuing simulcasts: 12/???
new simulcasts: 15/19 (79%)

Fall 2012
continuing simulcasts: 10/13 (77%)
new simulcast: 12/17 (71%)

Winter 2013
continuing simulcasts: 12/18 (67%)
new simulcasts: 18/26 (69%)

Spring 2013 (for the moment)
continuing simulcasts: 6/10 (60%)
new simulcasts: 10/23 (44%)

I'm very sad Our money is only using for the improvement of the service in North America
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Posted 4/14/13
HUNTERXHUNTER for latinoamerican please
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nerazzuro wrote:

HUNTER X HUNTER for latinoamerican please


and Fairy Tail !!
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Posted 4/14/13
translated to spanish:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/shugo-chara
http://www.crunchyroll.com/hayate-the-combat-butler-season-1-2
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nerazzuro wrote:

nah fairy tail me da igual (no me gusto como la adaptaron yo sigo al manga)


i dont care ur tastes... i want them!
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nerazzuro wrote:


Gaku_Kano wrote:


nerazzuro wrote:

I dont care your tastes kevinmalo

mira wey yo no tengo la culpa que los otakus sean tan ciegos como para pedir fairy tail (como que les gusta ver animes populares)
ya di mis razones y si no te parecen escribelo en español.


Please don't write in spanish, this is the english forum.



si yo quiero hablo mi idioma

Text in Spanish


These are the series that I would like to see translated to Spanish:

Fairy Tail
Gosick
Hayate the Combat Butler! (Season 1 & 2)
Lucky Star
Moritasan wa Mukuchi
My Ordinary Life
School Days
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
The Tower of DRUAGA -the Aegis of URUK-
The Tower of DRUAGA -the Sword of URUK-
The World God Only Knows

Thanks in advance, Bjaker!


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These are the series that I would like to see translated to Spanish:

hunterxhunter
madoka magica
fairy tail sucks I prefer the manga
shigeki no kyojin
one piece
rave master
robotics notes
psycho pass
dragon ball
level E

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Please, don't write in Spanish in the English forum and respect the forum rules!

Text in spanish:
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migto wrote: Sorry for the bad grammar. One would expect that over time there is an increase in licensing animes for each season, but the amount of anime that has been licensed has been declining.

That kind of fitness discourages consumers to continue supporting the service. The goal is to fear CR LA same amount or exceed credits CR catalog EE.UU., however that goal is now unlikely.


First, it is now two full years since Spring 2011. when Crunchyroll had 9/13 to Latin America. That was driven by package deals with TV Tokyo and Kadokawa which both normally included Latin America, but the Kadokawa package deal expired in Spring 2011. After that came the increase in early streaming licensed by Funimation and Sentai and failed niconico.com and Funico experiments combined to lead to the low point of Fall 2011.

This season, however, there are two changes happening at the same time.

Look at year to year free streaming to Spanish American and the Caribbean (I'm skipping short series) (16 April Note: Fall 2011/2011 justed added after I fixed my Fall 2012 spreadsheet):

Summer 2011: 5/12
Summer 2012: 9/19. +4

Fall 2011: 3/13
Fall 2012: 5/17, +2

Winter 2011: 6/11
Winter 2012: 11/18, +5

Spring2012: 5/20
Spring 2013: 7/20, +2

So even in a disappointing license season for Latin America like this one, the free streaming is making progress. Not as fast as ideal, but progress.

But at the same time, there was a drop in PREMIUM subscriber access from last Spring to this Spring. This was not a change in Latin America, it was a bigger change that affected Latin America. This change can be seen by looking back a year at Folk Tales from Japan, You and Me 2, Sengoku Collection, Polar Bear's Cafe, and Saki ~ Episode of A. All five of these had licenses like:

Free streaming to North America, UK and Ireland, Scandinavia & the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, AND streaming to premium members worldwide outside of Japan (NB. Folk Tales not free to Iceland).

Add in those five, and premium members in Latin America had 10/20 of new simulcasts in Spring 2012.

How many series were licensed like that this season? One, Nyarko-san W. And that is a sequel, which often just have their terms decided by re-using the original contracts.

So it may be that the "premium members worldwide outside Japan" did not work out to the satisfaction of the licensors in Japan.

The biggest thing to focus on are the "publishers" that simply do not include Latin America. The worst offender is Showgate, which had four series this season, and Zero to Latin America. After Showgate is Media Factory and TBS, which both had two shows, and which completely omitted Latin America. If those three publishers had even done like Aniplex and Kodansha and put Latin America in half of their licenses, that would be 11/20 instead of 7/20 this season.

Also, finding ways to thank Kodansha and Aniplex for including Latin America in (some of) their streaming licenses this season. In Winter, Aniplex streamed two series on Crunchyroll and neither included Latin America, so getting one out of two is a step in the right direction.


nerazzuro wrote: HUNTER X HUNTER for latinoamerican please

This would be an excellent one to try to chase down a contract extension, because its a long running anime, so the extra contract costs can be spread out over more episodes.


kevinmalo wrote: and Fairy Tail !!

This would be very hard to justify, since Crunchyroll only gets the four most recent ones, and with Fairy Tail ending or going on break, there will very soon be no Fairy Tail episodes on the site. Funimation only licenses Fairy Tail to North America, so convincing them to sub it in Spanish would be hard.


arturor1990 wrote: I'm very sad Our money is only using for the improvement of the service in North America

It works on a royalty basis, so as long as your views are recorded as coming from Latin America, the money goes to those series that are licensed for Latin America.

However, if some people use a proxy server, to get more access, they have to remember to NOT use the proxy server when the anime is actually available in Latin America. Otherwise their view will be recorded as coming from the country that their proxy server is located.
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migto wrote: Sorry for the bad grammar. One would expect that over time there is an increase in licensing animes for each season, but the amount of anime that has been licensed has been declining.

That kind of fitness discourages consumers to continue supporting the service. The goal is to fear CR LA same amount or exceed credits CR catalog EE.UU., however that goal is now unlikely.


There are two changes happening at the same time.

Look at year to year free streaming to Spanish American and the Caribbean (I'm skipping short series) (I just noticed my Fall 2012 spreadsheet was not correct, so I can't compare Fall 2011 / Fall 2012):

Spring2012: 5/20
Spring 2013: 7/20, +2

Winter 2011: 6/11
Winter 2012: 11/18, +5

Summer 2011: 5/12
Summer 2012: 9/19. +4

So even in a disappointing license season for Latin America like this one, the free streaming is making progress. Not as fast as ideal, but progress.

But at the same time, there was a drop in PREMIUM subscriber access from last Spring to this Spring. This was not a change in Latin America, it was a bigger change that affected Latin America. This change can be seen by looking back a year at Folk Tales from Japan, You and Me 2, Sengoku Collection, Polar Bear's Cafe, and Saki ~ Episode of A. All five of these had licenses like:

Free streaming to North America, UK and Ireland, Scandinavia & the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, AND streaming to premium members worldwide outside of Japan (NB. Folk Tales not free to Iceland).

Add in those five, and premium members in Latin America had 10/20 of new simulcasts in Spring 2012.

How many series were licensed like that this season? One, Nyarko-san W. And that is a sequel, which often just have their terms decided by re-using the original contracts.

So it may be that the "premium members worldwide outside Japan" did not work out to the satisfaction of the licensors in Japan.

The biggest thing to focus on are the "publishers" that simply do not include Latin America. The worst offender is Showgate, which had four series this season, and Zero to Latin America. After Showgate is Media Factory and TBS, which both had two shows, and which completely omitted Latin America. If those three publishers had even done like Aniplex and Kodansha and put Latin America in half of their licenses, that would be 11/20 instead of 7/20 this season.

Also, finding ways to thank Kodansha and Aniplex for including Latin America in (some of) their streaming licenses this season. In Winter, Aniplex streamed two series on Crunchyroll and neither included Latin America, so getting one out of two is a step in the right direction.


nerazzuro wrote: HUNTER X HUNTER for latinoamerican please

This would be an excellent one to try to chase down a contract extension, because its a long running anime, so the extra contract costs can be spread out over more episodes.


kevinmalo wrote: and Fairy Tail !!

This would be very hard to justify, since Crunchyroll only gets the four most recent ones, and with Fairy Tail ending or going on break, there will very soon be no Fairy Tail episodes on the site. Funimation only licenses Fairy Tail to North America, so convincing them to sub it in Spanish would be hard.


arturor1990 wrote: I'm very sad Our money is only using for the improvement of the service in North America

It works on a royalty basis, so as long as your views are recorded as coming from Latin America, the money goes to those series that are licensed for Latin America.

However, if some people use a proxy server, to get more access, they have to remember to NOT use the proxy server when the anime is actually available in Latin America. Otherwise their view will be recorded as coming from the country that their proxy server is located.


Sorry for my English
I never use any kind of proxy i only watch the anime available in my country and it's true you cant compare with the past season because the service have only one year but you can see the difference between us and the rest of the world and we have a decreasing of the new anime in compaction with the rest of the world. In this season only the 44% of the content
3 of the 10 are anime between 5-10 minutes of duration.

And CR put this as the wallpaper of our page (a anime i cant see in my area)
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arturor1990 wrote: Sorry for my English

I never use any kind of proxy i only watch the anime available in my country

Then all of your money goes to the series that can be seen in your country.


and it's true you cant compare with the pat season because the service have only one year

I didn't say that. But when comparing, you have to compare Spring to Spring, Winter to Winter, Fall to Fall, Summer to Summer, because the "strong" seasons (Spring/Fall) have always been harder to get wider regions, and the "weak" seasons (Winter/Summer) have always been easier to get wider region.


but you can see the difference between us and the rest of the word and we have a decreasing of the new anime in compaction with the rest of the word.

Like I said, Latin America gets 7 out of 20 this Spring, 5 out of 20 last spring, which is two better than before (I am not counting the short series at all for any of that).

Compared to the rest of the world (all Spring, all free streaming), Latin America is the only region that picked up two series in free streaming (the "out of 20" is North America, so there was no change in the number of new anime for North America in Spring 2012 and Spring 2013):

Spring 2012:
UK: 17/20
Oz: 18/20
Sweden: 13/20
South Africa 16/20
Turkey: 3/20
Spanish America: 5/20

Spring 2013
UK: 16/20, -1
Oz: 13/20, -5
Sweden: 13/20, +0
South Africa 16/20, +0
Turkey: 4/20, +1
Spanish America: 7/20, +2

But as I said, those are the free streaming licenses for Latin America. Last year, premium members also had five "premium members worldwide" licenses, and this season there's only one. So premium members in Latin America, the Middle East, most of Africa, and Asia took a big hit compared to last Spring. With the licenses directed to Latin America only going up by two, the net loss of four "premium worldwide" licenses meant Premium members saw a drop in their access.

Add in the effect of longer running series ending that were available in Latin America, and that is an additional hit.


And CR put this as the wallpaper of our page (a anime i cant see in my area)

That's not wallpaper, that's an ad. That's what pays for the bandwidth for the web pages. Pretty silly of them to buy an ad for a series that probably 30% to 40% of subscribers can't see, but not as silly as some things advertisers have done over the years.
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