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Posted 6/21/13 , edited 6/21/13

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Im really hoping at some point they show wtf happened after haruto woke up. Also as hpully said they might not censor the scene quite so much in the BD, so maybe that'll have explanation for the spontaneously combusting trousers


LOVE the BDs...

ty for the leak



edit: how many feel perverted just watching this scene in BD quality?

you skip the entire episode just to that moment >.>
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Nice episode. The direction Saki and Haruto took after the rape was unexpected but that's what I'm really enjoying about this anime. And I'm glad some other Dorssians finally appeared. Their military was starting to feel kind of... tiny...

Anyway, good stuff.

I'd like an episode (or at least half of one) just on Captain Cain though. I'd like him to get some backstory.

I'd be predicting Saki's death like crazy right now if we hadn't seen her 200 years in the future already.
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mipegg wrote:

Im really hoping at some point they show wtf happened after haruto woke up. Also as hpully said they might not censor the scene quite so much in the BD, so maybe that'll have explanation for the spontaneously combusting trousers


LOVE the BDs...

ty for the leak



edit: how many feel perverted just watching this scene in BD quality?

you skip the entire episode just to that moment >.>



I heard rape i'm out.
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Yeah, but... the way things are going, isn't that just a little too predictable? I mean, I expected Haruto to be doing his best Shinji Ikari impression this episode after the rape, but he went the opposite direction of all possible things.

I'm getting to the point where if something is obviously going to happen, it's actually the least likely thing to happen.
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^^^ Triple whammy I guess, poor thing! And voiced by a favorite seiyuu too. Still not sure if that means she has a season ending death cliffhanger coming? No spoilers there, we've been wondering when she will die, now or in 75 years while the Valvrave vampires live on to 200 years out.


Actually lets consider that Triple Whammy

Getting her hit with all 3 things at once might just be enough to shake her happy faith in humanity a little bit.

How much more crap do you think needs to be piled on Shoko for her to say YES to that "give up your Humanity" question?

Up until now I was ruling her out as a Pilot cause she just didn't have the personality to hit the Yes button, but maybe that's the point. Keep pushing her until she breaks and turns stone cold murder machine.



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mipegg wrote:

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Yeah, but... the way things are going, isn't that just a little too predictable? I mean, I expected Haruto to be doing his best Shinji Ikari impression this episode after the rape, but he went the opposite direction of all possible things.

I'm getting to the point where if something is obviously going to happen, it's actually the least likely thing to happen.


I suppose, what I said was the typical anime thing so it'll probably go in the opposite direction...
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Pretty good episode. Episode 10 and 11, have been filled with surprises so far, really hope it'll keep up the pace. Also, I feel really bad for Shoko, she's lost so much in these past two episodes.

I did expect Haruto to take responsibility at some point during the show, but what really took me by surprise was how casually Haruto and Saki approached each other after the rape.
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hpulley wrote:

^^^ Triple whammy I guess, poor thing! And voiced by a favorite seiyuu too. Still not sure if that means she has a season ending death cliffhanger coming? No spoilers there, we've been wondering when she will die, now or in 75 years while the Valvrave vampires live on to 200 years out.


Actually lets consider that Triple Whammy

Getting her hit with all 3 things at once might just be enough to shake her happy faith in humanity a little bit.

How much more crap do you think needs to be piled on Shoko for her to say YES to that "give up your Humanity" question?

Up until now I was ruling her out as a Pilot cause she just didn't have the personality to hit the Yes button, but maybe that's the point. Keep pushing her until she breaks and turns stone cold murder machine.





Nope
If Shoko wants a Valvrave, she can wait till next season. Next episode is Akira's time to shine
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based on at the end it does look like its Akiras time to shine with a purple unit?
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The last two episodes definitely picked up the pace. Can't wait for the next one. We all feel bad for Shoko. Haruto loves her. But Haruto considers himself damaged goods, as in not being human anymore. Saki reminded me of that. I also believe we wants to do the right thing for Saki. As in not letting her be alone and taking responsibility for what happened. It will be difficult on all three I am sure.
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mipegg wrote:

based on at the end it does look like its Akiras time to shine with a purple unit?


it better be, IT BETTER BE



Random guessing time!
If Shoko does have a death flag, next episode she'll tell Saki to take care of Haruto and the colony or something. And there we have the promise 200 years later.
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saki wins ^^
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I don't know if I can tolerate this anime anymore. I've been trying to be as forgiving as possible, hoping that it picks itself up but I don't think I can. It just does too much dumb and illogical stuff.

I mean just take episode 10 for example

1. They throw a festival in the middle of war?! Are you kidding me? Yes obviously when you are in a war that is exactly what you do. Devote days, perhaps weeks of valuable time not to securing food or planning defense, but a freaking festival.

2. So now being a vampire apparently makes you bite people AND occasionally you'll rape people. Why would you give your main character that kind of uncontrollable power? What was wrong with just biting them? Oh but the girl was totally into him so nevermind. Honestly how on earth is this ever going to be relevant with the plot or are they going to keep having him rape girls? It feels like they just threw it in there to shock us and include sex in the story.

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Posted 6/21/13 , edited 6/21/13

botogamer wrote:

I don't know if I can tolerate this anime anymore. I've been trying to be as forgiving as possible, hoping that it picks itself up but I don't think I can. It just does too much dumb and illogical stuff.

I mean just take episode 10 for example

1. They throw a festival in the middle of war?! Are you kidding me? Yes obviously when you are in a war that is exactly what you do. Devote days, perhaps weeks of valuable time not to securing food or planning defense, but a freaking festival.

2. So now being a vampire apparently makes you bite people AND occasionally you'll rape people. Why would you give your main character that kind of uncontrollable power? What was wrong with just biting them?

What do you think about similar shounen in general? Like Code Geass, Guilty Crown, etc.

Considering my undying hatred for Code Geass I won't fault anyone for simply not liking a show, but I'm curious whether something about this one in particular sets it apart in your eyes, or if you expected it to be an exception.
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