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after the "rape" i died a little inside why include this in the show no need man no need
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I saw in the epi. comments that people seem to think that L-Elf was gonna cap Shoko if the "negotiation" started to weaken on her end. I personally didn't see that, I thought he was gonna shoot the com. in order to shut off the feed if she started to give in. Who else here actually thought he would have killed the newly minted PM and lost everything he had been working towards this whole time?
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Shooting the comm? That's a rather rough way to cut off communications, I'm sure L-Elf could do better with just a switch or a cable cutter. I thought he was going to kill her too if she tried to surrender.
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Shmojo wrote:

I saw in the epi. comments that people seem to think that L-Elf was gonna cap Shoko if the "negotiation" started to weaken on her end. I personally didn't see that, I thought he was gonna shoot the com. in order to shut off the feed if she started to give in. Who else here actually thought he would have killed the newly minted PM and lost everything he had been working towards this whole time?



Totally agree Haruto would never of forgiven him and would of gone nuts probably..


Haruto is the main guy right I forget names
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who else finds themselves saying blitzendegen!
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hpulley wrote:

I agree that this has gone from camp to WTF onto a full deconstruction. I don't know if it has or will go far enough to construction where I could see it as one to watch over again to look for cues and clues but the first time through I agree that it is immensely entertaining. I will certainly watch the last episode of this cour and the next cour as well. They have done what you need to do to keep me interested...

Give me questions! Leave me wondering... and leave the answers open to something fun, something good! Unlike Gargantia which may surprise me but really seems to have painted itself into a corner where the only answers are going to be unfun and bad.


Couldn't agree more. This series has me interested regardless of the poo pooers in this thread and I have several things I've mentioned in previous post that I would like to find out about so it has me anticipating each episode. The three month wait will make me want to know even more but hopefully something in the summer can tide me over. I think Majestic Prince will still be ongoing (not 100% sure) so thats nice at least and Railgun, too.

Gargantia...that at one time was my number two anime but no longer for a long time now. It's a beautiful anime to watch and I think I actually liked it more with MOAR Amy in the episodes. Oh well.
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AnimeKami wrote:

gargantia thread with it's speculation ruined 50% of the peoples expectations...

anyways, I wonder if it was a ploy to confuse the shit out of the audience pre ep 7 and then start to get good.

At least to me ep 7 was the turning point anyone else? if not which ep?


I think for me it was a combo of episode 6-7.
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or push the off button to turn off the comm.......
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camontour wrote:

The plot line to this show is just bonkers at this point. I honestly can't take anything seriously.

kassler wrote:

This anime is just a joke. The expression 'jump the shark' was made for plotlines like this.

I'm curious what you guys were -expecting- from this anime. Considering it's about a high school floating in space where the students find a bunch of giant robots and fight bad guys. And is by Ichiro Okouchi (the writer of Code Geass).

It just seems audacious to complain 11 episodes into an anime that it's not seinen, when the first 10 episodes weren't either. It's a more-mature-than-average mecha shounen, but it's still reveling in the fact that its a mecha shounen.

At this point you just sound like you agreed to strawberry ice cream and are now complaining that it's not chocolate.


hpulley wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

gargantia thread with it's speculation ruined 50% of the peoples expectations...

anyways, I wonder if it was a ploy to confuse the shit out of the audience pre ep 7 and then start to get good.

At least to me ep 7 was the turning point anyone else? if not which ep?


I think episode 7 was the turning point for me too, after the high school musical stuff...

Episode 7 here as well.


Shmojo wrote:

I saw in the epi. comments that people seem to think that L-Elf was gonna cap Shoko if the "negotiation" started to weaken on her end. I personally didn't see that, I thought he was gonna shoot the com. in order to shut off the feed if she started to give in. Who else here actually thought he would have killed the newly minted PM and lost everything he had been working towards this whole time?

hpulley wrote:

Shooting the comm? That's a rather rough way to cut off communications, I'm sure L-Elf could do better with just a switch or a cable cutter. I thought he was going to kill her too if she tried to surrender.

The only way I can interpret that scene is that he was prepared to execute her if she committed treason. It fits his character perfectly and I'm fully expecting him to execute a student eventually (can't wait to see Haruto react to that).

(And he would have been protecting what he'd gained by shooting her, regardless of complications).
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yeah... degen is rapier

and blitz/blitzen means lightning.

Anyway, thats what I thought too... but that would have made a mess
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Insomnist wrote:


camontour wrote:

The plot line to this show is just bonkers at this point. I honestly can't take anything seriously.

kassler wrote:

This anime is just a joke. The expression 'jump the shark' was made for plotlines like this.

I'm curious what you guys were -expecting- from this anime. Considering it's about a high school floating in space where the students find a bunch of giant robots and fight bad guys. And is by Ichiro Okouchi (the writer of Code Geass).

It just seems audacious to complain 11 episodes into an anime that it's not seinen, when the first 10 episodes weren't either. It's a more-mature-than-average mecha shounen, but it's still reveling in the fact that its a mecha shounen.

At this point you just sound like you agreed to strawberry ice cream and are now complaining that it's not chocolate.



At least Code Geass took itself seriously. I feel like this show can't tell which way is up sometimes.
You also speak of students fighting bady guys in giant robots. I could point to half a dozen other shows where this happens, all with less bonkersness. (I made that word up)

I am fully allowed to comment on a show 11 episodes in as well. I wouldn't call it "more-mature-then-average" simply because of a little sex either.
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Shmojo wrote:

I saw in the epi. comments that people seem to think that L-Elf was gonna cap Shoko if the "negotiation" started to weaken on her end. I personally didn't see that, I thought he was gonna shoot the com. in order to shut off the feed if she started to give in. Who else here actually thought he would have killed the newly minted PM and lost everything he had been working towards this whole time?


I went back to look. He back away and turned towards her with the pistol in hand. It was the turn after backing up that makes me think he would have. Now, will it be Shoko or the Sister in the purple valvrave? If the story is going to shift towards Saki and Haruto, That would lead to the sister taking control of that valvrave . Or will Shoko get in it to revenge her father?
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Insomnist wrote:


camontour wrote:

The plot line to this show is just bonkers at this point. I honestly can't take anything seriously.

kassler wrote:

This anime is just a joke. The expression 'jump the shark' was made for plotlines like this.

I'm curious what you guys were -expecting- from this anime. Considering it's about a high school floating in space where the students find a bunch of giant robots and fight bad guys. And is by Ichiro Okouchi (the writer of Code Geass).

It just seems audacious to complain 11 episodes into an anime that it's not seinen, when the first 10 episodes weren't either. It's a more-mature-than-average mecha shounen, but it's still reveling in the fact that its a mecha shounen.

At this point you just sound like you agreed to strawberry ice cream and are now complaining that it's not chocolate.


hpulley wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

gargantia thread with it's speculation ruined 50% of the peoples expectations...

anyways, I wonder if it was a ploy to confuse the shit out of the audience pre ep 7 and then start to get good.

At least to me ep 7 was the turning point anyone else? if not which ep?


I think episode 7 was the turning point for me too, after the high school musical stuff...

Episode 7 here as well.


Shmojo wrote:

I saw in the epi. comments that people seem to think that L-Elf was gonna cap Shoko if the "negotiation" started to weaken on her end. I personally didn't see that, I thought he was gonna shoot the com. in order to shut off the feed if she started to give in. Who else here actually thought he would have killed the newly minted PM and lost everything he had been working towards this whole time?

hpulley wrote:

Shooting the comm? That's a rather rough way to cut off communications, I'm sure L-Elf could do better with just a switch or a cable cutter. I thought he was going to kill her too if she tried to surrender.

The only way I can interpret that scene is that he was prepared to execute her if she committed treason. It fits his character perfectly and I'm fully expecting him to execute a student eventually (can't wait to see Haruto react to that).

(And he would have been protecting what he'd gained by shooting her, regardless of complications).


Are you telling me I'm not supposed to expect an actual functioning plot? Really?

Don't get prickly when pointing out the ridiculousness of the plot.

Its not mature at all. Its like an episode Family Guy. It just throws a smattering of events and plot points at the wall and sees what sticks.

Nihilistic programming at its finest.
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I wonder what they are hinting at with calling episode 12 The Heretic Activates
Yeah it probably has to do with the purple Valvrave but maybe it might not be piloted by someone we expect it to be

I'm apparently only finding out about this now but someone on another forum confimred that VALVRAVE is an acronym for



FUUUUUUU



I need to go lie down for this, I thought they were joking or something about it
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Rito2Ru wrote:

I wonder what they are hinting at with calling episode 12 The Heretic Activates
Yeah it probably has to do with the purple Valvrave but maybe it might not be piloted by someone we expect it to be

I'm apparently only finding out about this now but someone on another forum confimred that VALVRAVE is an acronym for



FUUUUUUU



I need to go lie down for this, I thought they were joking or something about it


Could being referring to the Dorssian commander that is a vampire? Maybe he gets to the last valvrave, first?
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