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Posted 4/13/13

DengekiFugu wrote:


Zachman wrote:
I totally believe in free will. Although my opinion on the internet is as benign as one of my fists, I believe that man has a choice.
I choose not to kill people, I choose to go to school, and I choose to look up porn. The freedom of life is what makes it so damn fun. Not having free will is like not having bacon. It's fucking impossible. Besides, could you imagine a world without bacon? No? Good boy.

Do I detect a hint of Islamophobia?




Do I detect a hint of troll baiting?
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no we are all slaves to the system.

you know how you use google to find stuff?

yeah, uuhhh, thats not free will lol

thwy are controlling you all the time. you only THINK you have ctrl. you see, you may think i sound stupid but its true. the reason u think im so ridiculus is because. . . the government has actually taken ur freewill.

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WE LIVE IN A SKINNER BOX.
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Not really, in the end, we can only go one route, and the act of "choice" is a gamble after all.

Let's say you have an eating problem and the chances of you eating cake is 80% yes, 20% no

Free will along with other attributes basically reduces those chances, so if you want to lose weight, that changes from 40% yes and 60% no

Because we have always had to make a decision and we always go back and forth on which decision we make and ultimately, that decision is based off a gamble. Yes or no yes or no? Every decision is a matter of timing, freedom of will just changes those odds from 90-10 to 70-30

So I don't really believe in free will but I do believe in reducing chances
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i kinda believe it hell i really wanna believe it but the fact that we do what we do and are who we are is all based off of things we have been through and i feel we act the way we do becasue of things we have been through and shit like that
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I think external factors have an influence in our actions, however they only go as far as changing the probability of certain outcomes, every action is decided by the person who may or (increasingly popular nowadays with "YOLO" idiots) may not take into account external factors and the possible results of what they are about to do.

e.g. If I saw someone who I didn't like walking down the street when I was in the car, I could run them over, but would choose not too as I don't really want to go to prison for murder, I don't want to ruin my good future and I don't want to damage my car.
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Ippolit wrote:

Do you believe that we make choices completely by free will or are we just driven by biological and chemical impulses?


You have the free will to choose based upon what you have been taught, what you think, or what you feel. What your choice depends on, (if you're going to overcome your hormones/biology, negative influence of others, or destructive thinking) is strength of will.
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I don't believe in free will in any spiritual sense of the term, though I do think you can reframe it to describe a process that does exist (i.e., the freedom to thoroughly consider one's options before making a decision without external pressure, albeit driven entirely by our genetics and life experiences). I like to think of life as a naturally occurring environmental reaction --- we are, after all, entirely composed of particles that existed since the dawn of the universe, that have only temporarily entered the environmental process of 'life', eventually to return to a state of disparate particles. From that perspective, we're stardust constantly changing form based on the physics of our surrounding environment. Free will, then, is just a description for a natural result of an ongoing process.
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heyitsthatguy wrote:

DengekiFugu wrote:

Zachman wrote:
I totally believe in free will. Although my opinion on the internet is as benign as one of my fists, I believe that man has a choice.
I choose not to kill people, I choose to go to school, and I choose to look up porn. The freedom of life is what makes it so damn fun. Not having free will is like not having bacon. It's fucking impossible. Besides, could you imagine a world without bacon? No? Good boy.

Do I detect a hint of Islamophobia?

Do I detect a hint of troll baiting?

He correlated a lack of free will free will with a pork product, making my observation quite valid.
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Posted 4/14/13
Nope. We are completely caged in.
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I sometimes wonder whether we are able to truly make our own choices, or if the brain is simply a complex process that acts similar to what we would consider a program that is able to constantly write its actions as it goes. Perhaps we have no choice, no free will. Maybe free will is an illusion provided by spontaneous actions and reactions as the result of near instant neural programming that is sent and received by the brain.

If such is the case, we are hardwired to do everything we do in a specific manner based on external and internal influences. We are then automated, similar to the robots that manufacture cars, except the brain is extremely fast at updating and creating new "code" as it sees fit. Then could it be said that we our not ourselves, but what we consider to be ourselves is simply a gross looking blob of issue under our skull that creates actions? If so, there is no "we", there is simply a brain automatically manipulating its host meatbag. What many consider free will may just be a process comparable to an automatic transmission, albeit much more advanced.

I fear that Hk-47 was on to something.



Ama_no_Kagaseo wrote:

I think it's naive to believe one way or another.

We act on free will based on chemical impulses. We decide what is in our best interest at that point based on sensory feedback... ... .. . . . .. *moredrowsyramblings*


Ah I now see that you beat me too it, and with much more brevity.
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i think free will exits but that despite having free will you will always be bound by something and mostly your brain because some times you wand to do something but you just can't seem to do it like
and it seems like your brain won't let you do it while you do want to do it
and in some cases you react faster than you can think like a reflex
or you act on a strong emotion

but i think the voice you hear when you are thinking your inner monologue is your free will
since that is your consciousness and that is your true self
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I can't say for other people. As for myself I was taught to think with my own head and search the truth behind the scene. But sometimes you don't have a choice and you're forced to do something against your own free will.
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yeah i believe in free will for the most part i do understand that your surroundings and how you were raise supposedly affect your will but still your life your choice.
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Our actions are affected by one thing or the other but we get the option to choose, so in my opinion it's half and half.
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